Chapter 30, shipdesigns
First update with CVL's and the future cruisers to be made with left-over turrets from TTL heavy cruisers.
NB, all are made with 50% of engine weight, and an expected double range.
Note the sea keeping attributes are at roughly 27knots. They are a bit wet at 33 knots.
These adaptations are made because of that is more than the diesels would weigh and comsume ITTL.
Here are some of the ships from this TL.
These assumtions are based on uninterrupted highly prioritized diesel engine development. Here is a description of the OTL progress sometimes prioritized, sometimes not. See what they got to in the 1940's and remember, the Germans (were about o) reach a standard that would last to the 1970's.
https://oldmachinepress.com/2017/12/20/man-double-acting-diesel-marine-engines/
Germany CVL laid down 1926
Displacement:
8.052 t light; 8.423 t standard; 10.566 t normal; 12.281 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(597,76 ft / 574,15 ft) x 52,49 ft x (22,31 / 25,16 ft)
(182,20 m / 175,00 m) x 16,00 m x (6,80 / 7,67 m)
Armament:
8 - 5,91" / 150 mm 45,0 cal guns - 103,86lbs / 47,11kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1926 Model
4 x Single mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 2,17" / 55,0 mm 45,0 cal guns - 5,12lbs / 2,32kg shells, 500 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1926 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft deck forward
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward deck aft
36 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm 65,0 cal guns - 0,27lbs / 0,12kg shells, 750 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1926 Model
18 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
6 raised mounts
Weight of broadside 902 lbs / 409 kg
Main Torpedoes
12 - 23,6" / 600 mm, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m torpedoes - 2,346 t each, 28,148 t total
In 4 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes
2nd Torpedoes
8 - 23,6" / 600 mm, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m torpedoes - 2,346 t each, 18,766 t total
In 4 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Mines
20 - 1.102,31 lbs / 500,00 kg mines + 2 reloads - 10,826 t total
in Above water - Stern racks/rails
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 308,40 ft / 94,00 m 11,42 ft / 3,48 m
Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 236,19 ft / 71,99 m 8,14 ft / 2,48 m
29,56 ft / 9,01 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 3,94" / 100 mm 308,40 ft / 94,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 83 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
1,77" / 45 mm 308,40 ft / 94,00 m 18,27 ft / 5,57 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 39,37 ft / 12,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 5,91" / 150 mm 3,15" / 80 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
2nd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,39" / 10 mm 0,39" / 10 mm
3rd: 0,79" / 20 mm 0,39" / 10 mm 0,39" / 10 mm
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm
Forecastle: 0,39" / 10 mm Quarter deck: 0,39" / 10 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 5,12" / 130 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
No drive to shaft, 4 shafts, 50.586 shp
(101000)/ 37.737 Kw = 27,76
(33)kts
Range
18.000nm at 19,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3.858 tons
Complement:
520 - 677
Cost:
£2,063 million / $8,254 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 381 tons, 3,6 %
- Guns: 274 tons, 2,6 %
- Weapons: 107 tons, 1,0 %
Armour: 3.100 tons, 29,3 %
- Belts: 1.420 tons, 13,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 369 tons, 3,5 %
- Armament: 289 tons, 2,7 %
- Armour Deck: 947 tons, 9,0 %
- Conning Towers: 74 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 1.619 tons, 15,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.851 tons, 27,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.514 tons, 23,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0,9 %
- Above deck: 100 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
17.175 lbs / 7.790 Kg = 166,8 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 14,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,26
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,18
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
an extended bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,550 / 0,567
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,94 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,96 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25,00 %, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m
- Aft deck: 25,00 %, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m
- Average freeboard: 16,44 ft / 5,01 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 74,7 %
Waterplane Area: 21.034 Square feet or 1.954 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 145 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 86 lbs/sq ft or 422 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1,00
- Longitudinal: 1,00
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room
ATL Hipper Class, Germany Heavy cruisers laid down two per year 1935-7 to reuse the 206 mm gun turrets from TTL Deutschlands.
Displacement:
12.942 t light; 13.651 t standard; 15.305 t normal; 16.629 t full load
Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(668,55 ft / 646,33 ft) x 65,62 ft x (22,97 / 24,49 ft)
(203,77 m / 197,00 m) x 20,00 m x (7,00 / 7,47 m)
Armament:
6 - 8,11" / 206 mm 55,0 cal guns - 287,91lbs / 130,59kg shells, 150 per gun
Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1936 Model
2 x 3-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
12 - 5,91" / 150 mm 55,0 cal guns - 111,15lbs / 50,42kg shells, 300 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1936 Model
2 x 2-gun mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 raised mounts - superfiring
8 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
12 - 2,17" / 55,0 mm 55,0 cal guns - 5,48lbs / 2,49kg shells, 500 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
2 raised mounts
2 x 2 row twin mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
2 double raised mounts
36 - 1,18" / 30,0 mm 65,0 cal guns - 0,91lbs / 0,41kg shells, 1.000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1936 Model
14 x Twin mounts layout not set
8 raised mounts
4 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward deck aft
4 double raised mounts
Weight of broadside 3.160 lbs / 1.433 kg
Main Torpedoes
12 - 23,6" / 600 mm, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m torpedoes - 2,394 t each, 28,724 t total
In 4 sets of deck mounted centre rotating tubes
Mines
12 - 1.102,31 lbs / 500,00 kg mines + 4 reloads - 7,874 t total
in Above water - Stern racks/rails
Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7,09" / 180 mm 426,51 ft / 130,00 m 16,27 ft / 4,96 m
Ends: 1,97" / 50 mm 229,63 ft / 69,99 m 9,71 ft / 2,96 m
Upper: 1,97" / 50 mm 426,51 ft / 130,00 m 8,01 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 102 % of normal length
- Torpedo Bulkhead - Additional damage containing bulkheads:
0,79" / 20 mm 426,51 ft / 130,00 m 21,10 ft / 6,43 m
Beam between torpedo bulkheads 52,49 ft / 16,00 m
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 7,87" / 200 mm 3,94" / 100 mm 5,91" / 150 mm
2nd: 3,94" / 100 mm 1,97" / 50 mm 1,97" / 50 mm
3rd: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,79" / 20 mm -
4th: 1,18" / 30 mm 0,79" / 20 mm -
- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 3,15" / 80 mm
Forecastle: 0,79" / 20 mm Quarter deck: 0,79" / 20 mm
- Conning towers: Forward 5,91" / 150 mm, Aft 1,97" / 50 mm
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 58.031 shp
(117000)/ 43.291 Kw = 27,76
(33) kts
Range 6.000 (
12000)nm at 19,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 2.977 tons
Complement:
520 - 677
Cost:
£2,063 million / $8,254 million
Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 382 tons, 3,6 %
- Guns: 274 tons, 2,6 %
- Weapons: 108 tons, 1,0 %
Armour: 3.098 tons, 29,3 %
- Belts: 1.419 tons, 13,4 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 369 tons, 3,5 %
- Armament: 289 tons, 2,7 %
- Armour Deck: 947 tons, 9,0 %
- Conning Towers: 74 tons, 0,7 %
Machinery: 1.619 tons, 15,3 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 2.853 tons, 27,0 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2.514 tons, 23,8 %
Miscellaneous weights: 100 tons, 0,9 %
- Above deck: 100 tons
Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
17.182 lbs / 7.794 Kg = 166,9 x 5,9 " / 150 mm shells or 1,8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,11
Metacentric height 2,3 ft / 0,7 m
Roll period: 14,4 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,26
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,18
Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
an extended bulbous bow and a cruiser stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,550 / 0,567
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,94 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 23,96 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 50 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 51
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 30,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 6,56 ft / 2,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 25,00 %, 29,53 ft / 9,00 m, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m
- Forward deck: 30,00 %, 17,06 ft / 5,20 m, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m
- Aft deck: 25,00 %, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m
- Quarter deck: 20,00 %, 13,78 ft / 4,20 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m
- Average freeboard: 16,44 ft / 5,01 m
Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 79,3 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 74,7 %
Waterplane Area: 21.034 Square feet or 1.954 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 145 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 86 lbs/sq ft or 422 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1,00
- Longitudinal: 1,00
- Overall: 1,00
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Cramped accommodation and workspace room