The Bern looks like Woody Allen.Here's one: Iran Contra coverage is delayed until halfway through '88. Bush looks a lot worse. On the Dem side, Dukakis dies, Bentsen selects a popular mayor from Vermont to counterbalance with hokey small-town charm, only to die himself and leave said mayor the nominee. Perot is also there, annoyed that it's either Socialism Lite or No New Taxes.
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Link to To the Edge and Maybe Over Parts 3-6 can be found in my sig. TL;DR is that Gore died on 9/11, Lieberman became president and the War on Terror is going more or less how it was going under Bush OTL. Congress is Democrat-held following the 2002 midterms.
To the Edge and Maybe Over-Part 7
“No, I will not be entering the presidential race. I intend to carry on my work in the administration and ensure our national security is upheld.”
-Secretary of State John McCain in response to whether he would be seeking the Republican presidential nomination, January 3rd, 2003
“The despicable, vicious, cowardly attacks against us on September 11th must never be forgotten. I was there on the frontlines of the immediate aftermath-I have seen what the kind of terror spread by the likes of Osama and Saddam looks like up close. We need someone who fully understands the barbarity we are facing now and it is for this reason I am seeking the Republican nomination for President of the United States.”
-Mayor of New York Rudy Giuliani announcing his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, March 30th, 2003
GOVERNOR JEB BUSH ANNOUNCES HE WILL NOT BE ENTERING THE RACE, REFRAINS FROM FORMAL ENDORSEMENT
REPRESENTATIVE KUCINICH CONDEMNS LIEBERMAN AS ‘NEOLIBERAL WARMONGER’ IN ANNOUNCEMENT OF PRIMARY CHALLENGE
POLLING SHOWS MAYOR GIULIANI WITH SIGNIFICENT LEAD OVER MAJOR CHALLENGERS, GENERAL ELECTION POLLS SHOW DEAD HEAT.
-Headlines in The Wall Street Journal, May-August 2003
“The Lieberman administration’s invasion of Iraq is not defensible either legally or practically. Lieberman did not gain a Congressional declaration of war, which is required by the Constitution before launching a war. And in addition to that, the administration has not provided any shred of evidence that Saddam Hussein is connected to the activities of Al-Qaeda or the September 11th attack on our country. In addition to all of this, Lieberman has used the attacks to justify legislation that impedes our civil liberties domestically. I am running for president in order to push back against these attacks on freedom by the current administration.”
-Congressman Ron Paul announcing his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, April 5th, 2003
“I respect Mayor Giuliani and agree his leadership earned him the title ‘America’s mayor.’ But looking at his stances on the issues—they aren’t Republican or conservative or Christian. I think we can do better than nominating a candidate with New York values.”
-Senator Rick Santorum in the first Republican primary debate, August 19th, 2003
“No, I don’t agree with Senator Santorum. Giuliani’s positions are not necessarily the ones I hold, but we are a big tent party.”
“Do you feel the same way about Congressman Paul’s positions?”
“…Well, yes, but I think there is a big difference between policy differences stemming from religious convictions and the kind that endanger the American public.”
-Interview between Governor Tommy Thompson and CNN, August 22nd, 2003
AMIDST DEM BACKLASH, LIEBERMAN AGREES TO DEBATE KUCINICH
RON PAUL RALLY DRAWS CROWD OF 6,000 IN DES MOINES
TERRORIST ATTACK KILLS 8 US SERVICE MEMBERS IN AFGHANISTAN
IN THIRD REPUBLICAN DEBATE, GIULIANI HITS PAUL OVER NEWSLETTERS CONTROVERSY
-Headlines of The Washington Post, August-November 2003
“I’m worried about too many Muslims entering the US. Lieberman is liberalizing immigration laws for Iraq and that concerns me—what if there are infiltrators? It’s a threat.”
“I understand your concern and agree with it. As president, I would pause immigration from Muslim-majority countries in order to make sure we have a strong vetting system in place.”
-Exchange between unknown Iowa voter and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, November 19th, 2003
“In between ‘New York values,’ Ron Paul’s newsletters and Giuliani’s Muslim ban, I think we can say: Congratulations Tommy Thompson! You are the most minority-friendly Republican candidate left in the race!”
-Larry Wilmore on an episode of The Daily Show, November 21st, 2003
“I’ve gotta say, I’m tired of smears directed at my friend Ron Paul. He and I disagree on a lot of things, but I know he is a good man and if I lose and he wins, I will strongly consider supporting him over the current president.”
-Representative Dennis Kucinich at a campaign event, December 2nd, 2003
PAUL WINS IOWA IN UPSET, GIULIANI IN THIRD
KUCINICH, GIULIANI WIN NEW HAMPSHIRE
GIULIANI, PAUL PULL AHEAD ON SUPER TUESDAY AS THOMPSON DROPS OUT
KUCINICH VOWS TO FIGHT TO CONVENTION EVEN AMIDST DISAPPOINTING SHOW IN OHIO
SANTORUM DROPS OUT, ENDORSING GIULIANI AS ‘LEADER WE NEED’
FIGHT BREAKS OUT BETWEEN GIULIANI AND PAUL SUPPORTERS IN ALASKA CAUCUS
PAUL ACKNOWLEDGES VICTORY ‘LIKELY IMPOSSIBLE,’ STILL REFUSES TO ENDORSE GIULIANI
LIEBERMAN’S OFFER TO MEET WITH KUCINICH REBUFFED BY CANDIDATE
-Headlines of The Washington Post, January-June 2004
“I have long believed that there is no meaningful difference between our two major parties. Democrat, Republican, both of them are, in the end, chickenhawks who care more about their corporate cronies than the average American. I am running to provide voters with an alternative to the stale status quo of the two-party system—the chance to vote for peace, clean government and personal liberty.”
-Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura announcing his independent bid for president on May 3rd, 2004. Ventura would jointly seek the nomination of both the Libertarian and Green Parties
To the Edge and Maybe Over-Part 7
“No, I will not be entering the presidential race. I intend to carry on my work in the administration and ensure our national security is upheld.”
-Secretary of State John McCain in response to whether he would be seeking the Republican presidential nomination, January 3rd, 2003
“The despicable, vicious, cowardly attacks against us on September 11th must never be forgotten. I was there on the frontlines of the immediate aftermath-I have seen what the kind of terror spread by the likes of Osama and Saddam looks like up close. We need someone who fully understands the barbarity we are facing now and it is for this reason I am seeking the Republican nomination for President of the United States.”
-Mayor of New York Rudy Giuliani announcing his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, March 30th, 2003
GOVERNOR JEB BUSH ANNOUNCES HE WILL NOT BE ENTERING THE RACE, REFRAINS FROM FORMAL ENDORSEMENT
REPRESENTATIVE KUCINICH CONDEMNS LIEBERMAN AS ‘NEOLIBERAL WARMONGER’ IN ANNOUNCEMENT OF PRIMARY CHALLENGE
POLLING SHOWS MAYOR GIULIANI WITH SIGNIFICENT LEAD OVER MAJOR CHALLENGERS, GENERAL ELECTION POLLS SHOW DEAD HEAT.
-Headlines in The Wall Street Journal, May-August 2003
“The Lieberman administration’s invasion of Iraq is not defensible either legally or practically. Lieberman did not gain a Congressional declaration of war, which is required by the Constitution before launching a war. And in addition to that, the administration has not provided any shred of evidence that Saddam Hussein is connected to the activities of Al-Qaeda or the September 11th attack on our country. In addition to all of this, Lieberman has used the attacks to justify legislation that impedes our civil liberties domestically. I am running for president in order to push back against these attacks on freedom by the current administration.”
-Congressman Ron Paul announcing his bid for the Republican presidential nomination, April 5th, 2003
“I respect Mayor Giuliani and agree his leadership earned him the title ‘America’s mayor.’ But looking at his stances on the issues—they aren’t Republican or conservative or Christian. I think we can do better than nominating a candidate with New York values.”
-Senator Rick Santorum in the first Republican primary debate, August 19th, 2003
“No, I don’t agree with Senator Santorum. Giuliani’s positions are not necessarily the ones I hold, but we are a big tent party.”
“Do you feel the same way about Congressman Paul’s positions?”
“…Well, yes, but I think there is a big difference between policy differences stemming from religious convictions and the kind that endanger the American public.”
-Interview between Governor Tommy Thompson and CNN, August 22nd, 2003
AMIDST DEM BACKLASH, LIEBERMAN AGREES TO DEBATE KUCINICH
RON PAUL RALLY DRAWS CROWD OF 6,000 IN DES MOINES
TERRORIST ATTACK KILLS 8 US SERVICE MEMBERS IN AFGHANISTAN
IN THIRD REPUBLICAN DEBATE, GIULIANI HITS PAUL OVER NEWSLETTERS CONTROVERSY
-Headlines of The Washington Post, August-November 2003
“I’m worried about too many Muslims entering the US. Lieberman is liberalizing immigration laws for Iraq and that concerns me—what if there are infiltrators? It’s a threat.”
“I understand your concern and agree with it. As president, I would pause immigration from Muslim-majority countries in order to make sure we have a strong vetting system in place.”
-Exchange between unknown Iowa voter and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, November 19th, 2003
“In between ‘New York values,’ Ron Paul’s newsletters and Giuliani’s Muslim ban, I think we can say: Congratulations Tommy Thompson! You are the most minority-friendly Republican candidate left in the race!”
-Larry Wilmore on an episode of The Daily Show, November 21st, 2003
“I’ve gotta say, I’m tired of smears directed at my friend Ron Paul. He and I disagree on a lot of things, but I know he is a good man and if I lose and he wins, I will strongly consider supporting him over the current president.”
-Representative Dennis Kucinich at a campaign event, December 2nd, 2003
PAUL WINS IOWA IN UPSET, GIULIANI IN THIRD
KUCINICH, GIULIANI WIN NEW HAMPSHIRE
GIULIANI, PAUL PULL AHEAD ON SUPER TUESDAY AS THOMPSON DROPS OUT
KUCINICH VOWS TO FIGHT TO CONVENTION EVEN AMIDST DISAPPOINTING SHOW IN OHIO
SANTORUM DROPS OUT, ENDORSING GIULIANI AS ‘LEADER WE NEED’
FIGHT BREAKS OUT BETWEEN GIULIANI AND PAUL SUPPORTERS IN ALASKA CAUCUS
PAUL ACKNOWLEDGES VICTORY ‘LIKELY IMPOSSIBLE,’ STILL REFUSES TO ENDORSE GIULIANI
LIEBERMAN’S OFFER TO MEET WITH KUCINICH REBUFFED BY CANDIDATE
-Headlines of The Washington Post, January-June 2004
“I have long believed that there is no meaningful difference between our two major parties. Democrat, Republican, both of them are, in the end, chickenhawks who care more about their corporate cronies than the average American. I am running to provide voters with an alternative to the stale status quo of the two-party system—the chance to vote for peace, clean government and personal liberty.”
-Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura announcing his independent bid for president on May 3rd, 2004. Ventura would jointly seek the nomination of both the Libertarian and Green Parties
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I was gonna say it's Joe Lieberman. What's his platform, "Read My Lips: No More Video Games?"
His actual platform is 'Third Way' Dem politics, a hawkish foreign policy and Al Gore's environmentalist program.
Though (not to spoil anything) there are going to be issues related to what you mentioned down the line...though obviously it may or may not involve Lieberman as president.
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Do you have a source for this? Because McCarthy considered running an Independent Conservative campaign against President Eisenhower at one point and the man virtually embodied the vicious conservatism that many Americans held during the era. The man used such transparent conservative talking points that he ended up chumming around with Birchers, serving as an icon to them. Not to mention is denunciation of the Civil Rights Movement as subversive. As for economics, McCarthy was an ardent opponent of the New Deal and took up the typical Taft-Wherry-Bridges-Bricker line of Old Republicanism.
WJB went to Florida after the 1908 election and found the Fountain of Youth. That's how he's able to run in 2008 despite being 148 years old. The Republicans were pretty confident they'd win because their candidate was the younger one this time around. WJB tried running in 2004, but they brought up the Monkey Scopes Trial. It took 81 years for him to live that one down
The Whigs had a policy of not running for re-election, so unless Clay really doesn't want the chance of Webster running for president he should keep it
True. I forgot about that when making it. Ill just make a new one when I have the chance, but thanks for reminding me.
Do you have a source for that? Because IOTL no Whig President chose to forgo a Second Term, Harrison and Taylor died, Tyler was kicked out of the Party and Filmore failed to win renomination.
Why does King Edward look like that one meme of a crying cat?
From my Führerreich TL
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The 2018 Icelandic parliamentary election was held on 10 June 2018 to elect all 63 members of the Althing. Despite an increase in votes and seats for leftist parties, the incumbent centre-right government under Prime Minister Vagn Blöndal was reelected
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