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Just finished a map of a surviving Republic of Indian Stream, went really well.
 
Historiae Mutetur, the map game it's based on, is strange in that it starts out in OTL 2014 and goes backward, diverging from OTL more and more each year. As a result, the players had free reign to move OTL historical figures to whatever time period they wanted, or create or remove them altogether, since they're basically rewriting all of history.

In fact it does not start out from OTL 2014, since our present is very much shaped by the history we actually had. It creates a plausible backstory for something which looks like OTL on a map, but actually must be very different in detail. It's certainly possible to create an internally consistent timeline from this, but it's necessarily all extremely improbable. (Apparently a great deal of fun, however).
 
In fact it does not start out from OTL 2014, since our present is very much shaped by the history we actually had. It creates a plausible backstory for something which looks like OTL on a map, but actually must be very different in detail. It's certainly possible to create an internally consistent timeline from this, but it's necessarily all extremely improbable. (Apparently a great deal of fun, however).
There was a point earlier on where we agreed that the cosmetic similarities are the key thing. So in Historiae USA for example, 2014 has someone named Barack Obama as President, Congress has similar-looking people in it, and Americans celebrate something on July 4, but the way all those things came to be are dramatically different from OTL (necessarily, since the US isn't formed until the 1960's, I believe).
 
What will be part two? It would be interesting to see someone try their hand at a racial/ethnic map of Middle-earth - “racial” as in where Men, Elves, Dwarves, Orcs and all the rest, “ethnic” as in, say, the different nations of Men.
The plan is a political for the year 1500 of the Third Age as the project was originally for a Middle Earth Nation Game. After that's done I might have a go at a racial/ethnic map.
 
There was a point earlier on where we agreed that the cosmetic similarities are the key thing. So in Historiae USA for example, 2014 has someone named Barack Obama as President, Congress has similar-looking people in it, and Americans celebrate something on July 4, but the way all those things came to be are dramatically different from OTL (necessarily, since the US isn't formed until the 1960's, I believe).
I will say HM seems to have had an impressive spike in quality after a certain point.
 
Uhm.. How does a country of 3,000 people field two divisions, which is more than 3,000 people?
They just took the number of people in their military and divided it by two. Concerns raised by other nations, such as “That’s not how this works.” and “What are you planning to invade anyway?” have been dismissed by the government as “We’re a sovereign nation, your definitions don’t concern us.”
 
The plan is a political for the year 1500 of the Third Age as the project was originally for a Middle Earth Nation Game. After that's done I might have a go at a racial/ethnic map.

That would be awesome! Of course, you would have to make some calls as to whether Hobbits and Woses (the latter of which are apparently meant to be some sort of Neanderthal-like being) would be counted as subsets of Men or their own races, as well as how to deal with fleetingly-mentioned races such as badger-folk, giants, and ogres. Still, I do not think that I have seen anyone make such a map for Middle-earth.
 
That would be awesome! Of course, you would have to make some calls as to whether Hobbits and Woses (the latter of which are apparently meant to be some sort of Neanderthal-like being) would be counted as subsets of Men or their own races, as well as how to deal with fleetingly-mentioned races such as badger-folk, giants, and ogres. Still, I do not think that I have seen anyone make such a map for Middle-earth.
It'll take some digging I think, but I'll definitely look into it!
 
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Just finished a map of a surviving Republic of Indian Stream, went really well.


Awesome! Although I wonder if it wouldn’t have more than 2,000 inhabitant, after all only small isolated Pacific archipelago are comparable, and this state is much larger, borders two countries with large population,, which makes immigration easier. I'm sure some people would have come over the last 200 years, either people fleeing the US or Canada, or people going for tax evasion, or simply quebeckers emigrating there during the late 19th century, there are a lot of use for a micro state. This country is even larger than andorra, i'm sure it would more realistically have a few dozen thousand people today.
 
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Just finished a map of a surviving Republic of Indian Stream, went really well.
Would be a really interesting dynamic if it turns into a North American Tax haven right next to two of the continent’s biggest business economies. And neither Canada nor America can do anything about it, cause what are they gonna do? Invade a sovereign nation?
 
Has been too long since I made one of these, but here's part 2(?) of a series of maps from my ASB timeline sorta thing. Here's the first one, which covered the Middle East, North Africa, and India. This next one, obviously, covers Eastern Europe and the Russian Federation, their political boundaries, religious makeup, and regional unions. Russia maintains a sort of domineering yet almost isolationist position with it's neighbors, hence their lack of interest in any regional unions. Poland is very close with Bohemia-Moravia, with the two bordering on a union, while Hungary's cultural and religious differences alienates them from the two. The Belgrade Pact has similar differences, with Romania maintaining it's Greco-Roman influence as part of their national identity and promoting the Romanian sect of Hellenism.

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Note: B.P. stands for Belgrade Pact; I couldn't fit in all of it lmao
 
Here is a map I posted for MotF 201, crossposted from there. It was made in a day, so it's not very thought out.

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link is here: https://imgur.com/a/qjQzNpZ

MotF 201: Abandon Big Ben


“I will return” -Douglas MacArthur, leaving the port of Astoria for the last time



“He didn’t” – Scott Pilgrim Narrator


Trouble at the Top : A Look Inside Alaska


-Tim Allen, The People’s Review, August 5th, 2016


As I get off the American Airlines plane, cold air whips my face. Slowly walking down the stairs, I am greeted by a blonde man in military uniform. He introduces himself as my guide to the private and guarded hotel I will be staying at. I am in Anchorage, the capital of the United States of America, known by many throughout the federation as Alaska.


Ever since the independence of North Slope, Alaska has withdrawn inwards, shunning modern technological advancements and sciences. Only around 20% of the population have personal computers, and of these almost all live in cities. For a country so close to the Federation, few benefits can be seen, as most of the population lives in overcrowded housing centers in the major areas, such as the Capital.


I am ushered from the deserted airport along wide, treelined avenues to the government district, with its modern buildings. My hotel is a shining tower of steel and glass, built recently and never booked. Smiling guards inform me that I am to stay in the building until the time for a tour, putting me effectively under house arrest. The guards at the doors, members of the All – American – Security – Division (AASD) are tasked with general security in the republic, except when in conflict with the sheriffs, who retain much power in the rural and backward countryside. The AASD was created in the 50’s to keep the native population under control and has grown to the main security force in the decades since. I go to my room and wait, looking out over the city.

It’s clear to see where the government sops and the civilians begin, by the line of wooden and brick houses and shacks spreading out to Cook Inlet. This is how most Alaskans live, just as they have since they moved here 7 decades ago.

The next day I get invited to take a tour of the government premises, as uniformed men (All men, strangely) showed me the industrial might of Alaska. A wiry, raven-haired figure introduces himself as Doctor Ronald Reeves, assures me that the might of Alaska is the greatest in the world.

“Here we see the great factories, producing arms for our great nation. Brave Americans spend each day working here, under ideal conditions (They are not), fueling our wonderful economy (It is not). See our might! See our power! One day we will return, and when we do, those red-blooded Americans oppressed by the commies down south will reach us with open arms! I assure you; you too may be freed from socialist oppression when the time comes. Many immigrants come from all over the oppressed world, seeking faith and the true American way (statistics show that 82,000 people have left Alaska over the years, mainly due to poor government treatment). If only the rest of the world could follow the American way!”

The factories I see are not producing civilian goods, foodstuffs, or amenities for the beleaguered population. Instead, they create tanks, midgit submarines, and guns for when the “war of liberation” comes to the federation. Despite some allegations of WMD’s in the Alaskan interior, few in the federation are worried about the prospect of war with the “Alaskan reactionaries”, believing that “they wouldn’t know a rifle if it shot them in the face.”

At the end of my trip, I am honored to see the Independence Day celebrations, held on July 4th of every year. Thousands of flags are brought out, guns are fired, and a long column of perfectly orderly soldiers marches past. Following the parade, a great party is organized, as all streets are closed and neighbors gather to drink, shoot, and burn effigies of Floyd Olson and Henry Wallace. This goes on into the late night, where what seems to be the whole Alaskan air force fly’s overhead, detonating fireworks of red, white, and blue over the people. Watching the spectacle of fireworks, Terrence Regan, a senator from the state of Kenai turns to talk to me. He extolls the virtues of the American way, namely the three F’s (Faith, Family, and Freedom), and as the explosions diminish, he makes his closing remarks.

“See, this is what separates us from those dammed R*dskins and Commie N*****-lovers. We have freedom, we have strength, we have intelligence, and we show it.”

What are my thoughts about the United States of America? It’s certainly an interesting place. I wouldn’t want to go there for vacation, but it serves as an example of history, a slice of the past, if you will. Their values may be different than what you would see here, and any LGBT or African-Americans certainly wouldn’t want to go there, but for those who can, it’s quite the experience.


Enough is Enough – Native Leaders call for Federation Action against Alaska – May 3rd, 2016

Our native land, our culture, our friends and families are being erased from the earth, says congressman Aqakuktuq, speaking on behalf of “all native Alaskans under the oppressive boot of Alaskan government.” Speaking to ambassador Orrel in Tanan, Aqakuktuq pleaded yesterday for the Federation to take economic action against Alaska.

“Our culture is being systematically destroyed, and we do nothing but give warnings and stern letters! Reports continue to send in confirming mistreatment of native’s in cities and widespread discrimination and ‘Americanization.’ What are we to do?”

Ever since its independence in 1972, North Slope has stood as an antithesis to Alaska, proving that an oil republic in the far north can be committed to peace and prosperity. Despite the falling price of oil, mean income and happiness has steadily increased, with drug addiction and violent crime decreasing. This stands in stark contrast with Alaska, which continues to harass and discriminate against natives. While officially racial discrimination was outlawed in the 1997 court ruling on civil rights, it has been not generally accepted. Many native Alaskans have fled over the thousand-kilometer border between the two nations, and have been welcomed with open arms by the North Slope government, which promises to “accept all the oppressed and beaten-down, and give them a new life.” Even this border is getting tenser, as Federation garrisons have been established on all major roads leading between the two countries.

“The story of the Oil Republics, is one many may have heard in the Federation and beyond.” Says Aqakuktuq. “For those of us with the Sagavanirgtok Spirit, it is a story of how an backwater land can rise to prominence. It is a story of hope of life. But this tale is also a warning, for the Alaskan republic is a sign of how backwardness leads to tyranny and hatred, which tears people apart. I hope president Palin can hear what we have to say, and I pray that she will stop the oppression of our people.”

Only time will tell if Ms. Palin will acquiesce to these demands, but it seems likely that tensions will remain high with Alaska for the foreseeable future.
 
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The Navel of the Moon
Map #3 in the SuperSized Nations Series

(Yes, it has a name now)

The thicc maps continue with this threequel to And They Shall Eat Cake and How The Sausage Gets Made, this time zeroing in on a world where Mexico made sure to drink its milk and eat its Flintstone vitamins every day to get swole. The POD focuses not on New Spain, though, but rather a few innocuous British colonies on the Atlantic Coast. The American Revolution is seen as a rebellion ITTL, with the Battle of Saratoga failing miserably. This causes France to not get involved, however some callous missteps on the part of King Louis XVII lead to the nation still falling into anarchy and revolution. The American Rebellion is crushed, but revolution soon comes across the English Channel as King George III collapses into madness and Great Britain goes bankrupt due to heavily intervening in the French Revolution and the American Rebellion, causing a republic to be established in England and the British Royal Family to flee across the Atlantic and set themselves up in North America. Seeing a chance to strike, Spain declares war on the British royalists, and gains the Floridas and their Centroamerican and Caribbean holdings, further dooming Britain. Afterwards, though, similar events to those that sparked the American Rebellion go down: Spain needs to tax its colonies to fund the war, the colonies don't like that they're not able to influence the laws that are applied to them at all, and Latin America explodes much earlier, around 1785.

Unlike the American Revolution, the Latin American Revolutions result in the emergence of new empires and new monarchies. The House of Iturbide emerges in Mexico, which, ITTL, is made up of all claimed Spanish territories from OTL Alaska to Gran Colombia. Other stuff happens, the Roman Empire is reborn as a Catholic theocracy, Spain becomes Mexico's BFF, Austria unifies southern Germany, China gets taken over, there's a cultural genocide against Muslims (sadly, but considering the major powers of this world are all borderline theocratic Catholic empires, I think it's more than likely to occur), and Mexican hegemony over the globe is secured. This is the world in 1910. Russia, who got off pretty easily except for losing Vladivostok, and Prussia are both technically neutral, but they, as well as Brazil (still housing the Portuguese royal family, who fled after Spain took over the homeland), the United Kingdom of North America, Japan, Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, and every other still-independent nation is covertly working together, plotting to take down Mexico and company before it's too late.

Though, really, it already is.

EDIT: Oh yeah, that's Mexican Alsace-Lorraine, by the way.

(I'm willing to take suggestions again on the next country I should wank. Fire away!)
 
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Does anyone know where I can find that European Federation map that was in the previous thread? The map looked like a combination of France, Germany, and I think Switzerland all in one country.

Please help.
 
Does anyone know where I can find that European Federation map that was in the previous thread? The map looked like a combination of France, Germany, and I think Switzerland all in one country.

Please help.

The search function has an option called "search this thread only." If you navigate to that thread and use the keywords "European Federation," you might find it.
 
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The Navel of the Moon
Map #3 in the SuperSized Nations Series

(Yes, it has a name now)

The thicc maps continue with this threequel to And They Shall Eat Cake and How The Sausage Gets Made, this time zeroing in on a world where Mexico made sure to drink its milk and eat its Flintstone vitamins every day to get swole. The POD focuses not on New Spain, though, but rather a few innocuous British colonies on the Atlantic Coast. The American Revolution is seen as a rebellion ITTL, with the Battle of Saratoga failing miserably. This causes France to not get involved, however some callous missteps on the part of King Louis XVII lead to the nation still falling into anarchy and revolution. The American Rebellion is crushed, but revolution soon comes across the English Channel as King George III collapses into madness and Great Britain goes bankrupt due to heavily intervening in the French Revolution and the American Rebellion, causing a republic to be established in England and the British Royal Family to flee across the Atlantic and set themselves up in North America. Seeing a chance to strike, Spain declares war on the British royalists, and gains the Floridas and their Centroamerican and Caribbean holdings, further dooming Britain. Afterwards, though, similar events to those that sparked the American Rebellion go down: Spain needs to tax its colonies to fund the war, the colonies don't like that they're not able to influence the laws that are applied to them at all, and Latin America explodes much earlier, around 1785.

Unlike the American Revolution, the Latin American Revolutions result in the emergence of new empires and new monarchies. The House of Iturbide emerges in Mexico, which, ITTL, is made up of all claimed Spanish territories from OTL Alaska to Gran Colombia. Other stuff happens, the Roman Empire is reborn as a Catholic theocracy, Spain becomes Mexico's BFF, Austria unifies southern Germany, China gets taken over, there's a cultural genocide against Muslims (sadly, but considering the major powers of this world are all borderline theocratic Catholic empires, I think it's more than likely to occur), and Mexican hegemony over the globe is secured. This is the world in 1910. Russia, who got off pretty easily except for losing Vladivostok, and Prussia are both technically neutral, but they, as well as Brazil (still housing the Portuguese royal family, who fled after Spain took over the homeland), the United Kingdom of North America, Japan, Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, and every other still-independent nation is covertly working together, plotting to take down Mexico and company before it's too late.

Though, really, it already is.

EDIT: Oh yeah, that's Mexican Alsace-Lorraine, by the way.

(I'm willing to take suggestions again on the next country I should wank. Fire away!)
Nice map- I’d like to see your take on an Ireland-wank.
 
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Confederation of United American Republics*
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1. Republic of Maine
2. Republic of New Hampshire
3. Republic of Vermont
4. Republic of Massachusetts
5. Republic of New York
6. Republic of New Jersey
7. Republic of Maryland
9. Republic of Virginia
10. Republic of Carolina
11. Republic of Ohio
12. Republic of Transylvania
13. Republic of Indiana
14. Republic of Michigania
15. Republic of Illinois
16. Republic of Missouri
17. Republic of Arkansas
18. Free State of Sequoyah[1]
19. Republic of Kansas
20. Republic of Platte
21. Republic of Iowa
22. Republic of South Dakota
23. Republic of Wilburia
24. Republic of Mankato
25. Republic of North Dakota
26. Republic of Minnesota
27. Territory of Montana[2]
28. Territory of Iroquois [3]
29. Republic of Toronto
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[1] The Free State of Sequoyah has a very different system of government than most republics. It is ruled by multiple tribes, though there is one grand chief.
[2] Not a Republic, still technically under military occupation
[3] Same as Montana
* = Overtime it became more centralized.
 
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The Navel of the Moon
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(Yes, it has a name now)



(I'm willing to take suggestions again on the next country I should wank. Fire away!)

Awesome work HeX. How about a Turkey or a Swiss wank next?
 
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