Could Quentin Roosevelt be a candidate for the United States Paternalist or Centrist?
I still think that having "paternalism" and "paternal autocracy" separate is unnecessary and not very clear.
What exactly distinguishes the two? That's my concern.Perhaps "Paternal Autocracy" could be just "Autocracy"?
What exactly distinguishes the two? That's my concern.
Those are basically the same thing, the former closer to what KR calls authoritarian democrats.Paternalism can refer to countries that claim to be democratic but have a large disenfranchised population, such as the CSA and Apartheid South Africa, certain further-right political parties and certain socially stratified Latin American regimes.
Autocracy can refer to far-right nationalist regimes in Europe, regimes like OTL's Franco regime in Spain and Metaxas regime in Greece, certain heavily authoritarian dictatorships and military juntas and also traditionalist and oligarchic absolute monarchies in the Middle East, such as Pahlavi Iran, Oman and OTL's Saudi Arabia, and Asia, such as Tibet and Bhutan.
I figured that a Pelley who grew up in an aggressively anti-racist state surrounded by propaganda about the demonic, cartoonishly-evil Southerners and their unceasing desire to annihilate Yankeedom and break the world to the foul yoke of Treasonous Slavocracy (tm), would be crazy in a different way from our version, lol.@Worffan101 - TTL’s Pelley is...interesting...
Continuing this idea...I still think that having "paternalism" and "paternal autocracy" separate is unnecessary and not very clear.
Anyway, possible storylines I'd recommend...
The USA is a bitterly divided nation, united only by national hatred for the CSA. The Union is aggressively socially progressive, with even their Actionist tree having a "criminalize racist thought" focus, but a substantial pro-business bloc seeks to maintain the peace with the CSA to "encourage peaceful and gradual reform". The socialists, led by FDR, say that the ruling party is ineffective at dealing with the world economic crisis and insufficiently wary of Confederate buildups. The Actionists, led by William Dudley Pelley's Redeemers, view the Confederates as barely human savages from a bygone era who need a good whipping to abandon their cartoonishly evil ways (Even though Pelley's clearly bonkers, his popularity is on the rise, especially thanks to Featherston's government being, um, basically Nazis with a Southern accent). The 1936 Presidential election forms the centerpiece of the early-game storyline, with the government having options to pass legislation either focusing on reducing troop commitments in keeping down token remaining Canadian resistance (Canada, due to its small population and vast area, doesn't really form a severe revolt risk at this point), or trying to solve the economic crisis. FDR gives huge economic bonuses but will leave the US military somewhat behind compared to Pelley, who focuses on a quick military buildup but gives fewer civilian factory bonuses and such. (there is no third option, due to the current outgoing POTUS being less popular than Congress, cockroaches, lice, and Genghis Khan) When the Second Great War begins, the USA must focus on defending its massive border against a last-gasp attack by Jake Featherston's Confederacy. If victorious in the war (not like that's really a question, given the situation), the USA must choose a Reconstruction path. FDR focuses on economic rebuilding, propaganda revealing Featherston's atrocities, and lengthy public trials of Featherston-regime officials, whereas Pelley engages in full-on military occupation, cash incentives for interracial children, black social dominance enforced by Union bayonets, and attempting to breed a master species to please alien Jesus and the reptoids who brought him to us in their flying saucers.
Ukraine is a nation in chaos. Economic troubles in Germany have resulted in German funding and garrisons going home, leaving Ukraine bitterly divided between a Ukrainian-speaking nationalist west, a Cossack and Russian minority population in the East that are causing issues, and a substantial socialist underground loyal to banned politician Nestor Makhno of the Anarchist People's Party, who is also the leader of its armed wing, the Revolutionary Anarchist Insurrectionary Army. Shortly after the start of the game, the assassination of the Ukrainian Rada's chief officer causes a political crisis, with the next leader being decided in a series of event chains (the only focuses that can be taken during this time are miserly naval and air foci). The next leader stabilizes the country--either by recommitting to the German alliance and hoping that sucking up and pissing off the anarchists and minorities in the short term will pay off long term, or by electing Makhno and turning Ukraine into an anarchist confederation. German puppetry/allegiance gives military bonuses to army organization and enhances some generals with buffs; Makhno gives the nation huge manpower buffs and a defense bonus on core territory at the expense of unit org, some of which can be gained back later on as Ukrainians realize that elected officers, while great in theory, can be impractical.
The German Empire is a nation choking on everything its nationalist right ever could have wanted. With the economy in the toilet, its colonial empire on the verge of revolt (though to be fair the British and French aren't doing any better, with British Republican sentiment at an all-time high thanks to His Fecklessness, Edward VIII, and the Actionist French regime is still putting down riots in some areas), and its enemies seemingly strong as ever on all sides, Prime Minister von Schleicher's popularity is in negative numbers, and the only question is who will replace him, and whether or not the Spartakist radicals will actually rise up in response. The SDAP plan calls for a civilian industrial support system to get the economy back on track, the Conservative party under von Papen is calling for tax cuts, war hero von Lettow-Vorbeck is a dark horse candidate who wants military preparedness and funding the war industry to counter France and at least get some jobs for people, and Actionist nutcase Heinrich Himmler has thrown his hat into the ring by blaming The Jews (tm) for everything, while the Communists are calling for a revolution and redistributing the wealth of the rich. (obviously, if you take some obvious chump choices you can cause a civil war and basically doom Germany and the war in Europe) Military trees focus on battleships or carriers, heavy or light fighters, and on tanks or doubling down on Great War tactics.
Got some other ideas about the UK falling into a British Republican revolt, but will post those in the morning. Obviously, still playing fast and loose with TL-191 canon, largely because the later books are, um, a bit painful to read.
honestly, given that George V is probably in poor health, and that Britain is already undergoing a metastasizing sociopolitical crisis as a result of them losing *WW1 in humiliating fashion and the CSA being basically cartoon villains that for some reason the Brits keep backing even though every single time it gets worse and worse for Britain, there's a case to be made that George wouldn't dare.I'd make Edward be king of Moncom gang, or at least have that option, for further memes. Frankly I think that if Edward wanted to abolish the monarchy altogether George V would have just disinherited him.
Monarcho-Communism, sort of the Mladorossi movement in Russia. It's not completely unprecedented.I also have an idea for Actionist France being super antiziganist and justifying their genocide of Romani people with "well if you throw the rats out they'll just migrate back in, we need to get them out of the fatherland somehow!". I think having Jews be the targets of any of the various evil regimes would be boring and not particularly interesting to play with.
honestly, given that George V is probably in poor health, and that Britain is already undergoing a metastasizing sociopolitical crisis as a result of them losing *WW1 in humiliating fashion and the CSA being basically cartoon villains that for some reason the Brits keep backing even though every single time it gets worse and worse for Britain, there's a case to be made that George wouldn't dare.
I'm not really sure what "moncom gang" is and I want to minimize memes because memes suck, but having Edward be kind of a reverse of his OTL self would amuse me greatly.
...that's something, alright.Monarcho-Communism, sort of the Mladorossi movement in Russia. It's not completely unprecedented.
There was also that one Carlist claimant that went Titoist and is the reason why the modern Carlist Party is a self-defined socialist party in favour of worker's self-management.Monarcho-Communism, sort of the Mladorossi movement in Russia. It's not completely unprecedented.