Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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according to wikipedia:
this is correct too, it's a very interesting period in history and I'd love to see someone do a TL or somesuch for it in the future.
Here's the wiki article with more of the details on it
There was also a recent map in the map thread with a bit on it, when the Germans helped carve up Hungary.
Bukovina was sometimes called a 'Switzerland of the East' due to the amount of ethnicities peacefully cohabiting there, I believe.
I have just learned about this:
There was a plan by Revolutionary France to split Switzerland into the Helvetian, Rhodanic and Tellgovian Republics. There is a page on French Wikipedia about the latter.
There was a plan by Revolutionary France to split Switzerland into the Helvetian, Rhodanic and Tellgovian Republics. There is a page on French Wikipedia about the latter.
Well, by that one general, according to the map. It didn't seem to get anywhere. Honestly, if this were to happen and be prolonged I would see the Helvetien area here changing their name to Schweiz, as their would be no point to keeping their name Latin when the speakers of French, Ladin, and Italian are mostly no longer with them with them. Though both the yellow and purple areas here would be geographically half German speaking. Ahhh, so many reasons this plan wouldn't work. I am mostly interested in if Napoleon would have tried sticking a king anywhere or to give land to neighboring states. Given the amount of highly skilled mercenaries the mountains and valleys had, it might be rather important. Though wouldn't be surprised if he did what he did IOTL, which declare their natural state as being semi-anarchy, and to place himself as their head of state.I have just learned about this:
Given how Napoleon was all about installing his family members and best buddies as monarchs, I'm surprised he didn't install one of them as the King of Helvetica. I can only assume that Napoleon just wasn't that crazy.
I imagine it is like it a planet cracked into pieces. Gravity would still pull them together.
To be fair, the land they don't currently have doesn't have the most Russians anyways, outside of some frontier areas or places where there were massive population 'exchanges' during Soviet times. I think of it like Prussia during the Napoleonic Wars. People might say Napoleon was unfair to them as stolen half their land, when outside of a couple small areas on the Rhine, all the stuff they lost was things they seized from Poland or swallowed up from neighboring German states.
Not exactly.
Even if you're just taking Russians into account rather than the full East Slavic group (the equivalent of looking at New Englanders rather than Americans as a whole):
The Russian annexation of Crimea and subsequent invasion of Donetsk and Luhansk has strongly reinforced the Ukrainian national, ethnic, and linguistic identity as one distinct and separate from Russian, I would hardly say it's accurate to call Ukraine the New England to Russia's USA.Not exactly.
Even if you're just taking Russians into account rather than the full East Slavic group (the equivalent of looking at New Englanders rather than Americans as a whole):
In the context of history? Perhaps.
When it comes to the perception of an individual, things are quite different.
I don't see why that's necessarily true in this case. Yes, identities are fluid, but they're certainly not formless ether. Identities are self-reinforcing, particularly against one another and particularly in this situation. Every Ukrainian I've met is pretty serious and unyielding about the fact that they're Ukrainian and explicitly not Russian. Since Crimea, they've been willing to get in a fight about it.
The Ottoman Empire's ambitions for a Central Powers victory.
* Annexing Kuwait, the Dodecanese Islands, and Kars
* Making client states out of Egypt, Sudan, and many lands in southern Arabia and the Caucasus
* Extending their influence as far east as Iran and Afghanistan
Why would there be an Armenia? Didn't the Ottomans try to kill them all during WW1?
I'm not entirely sure. The Ottomans were terrified of Armenian nationalism, especially because of their large population in eastern Anatolia, where it was thought they might ally themselves with the christian Russians against the empire. I'm guessing the idea with the client state was, more or less, to purge them from Ottoman territory proper, push whoever was left somewhere else, and economically exploit them.
Or it might not have been Armenian at all, but instead populated by Azeris. Either way is horrifying.