List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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No Manifest Destiny, leading to a smaller United States composed by the following states: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Virginia, Maryland, Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ohio, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois, Missouri, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Nebraska, Dakota.

1844 - 1848: James Polk (D)
1848 - 1852: Lewis Cass (D)
1850 - 1856: Franklin Pierce (D)
1856 - 1860: James Buchanan (D)
1860 - 1868: Abraham Lincoln (R)
1868 - 1876: Andrew Johnson (D)
1876 - 1881: Samuel Tilden (D)
1881 - 1884: Thomas Hendricks (D)
1884 - 1888: James Blaine (R)
1888 - 1896: Grover Cleveland (D)
1896 - 1901: William McKinley (R)
1901 - 1908: Charles Fairbanks (R)
1908 - 1916: Theodore Roosevelt (R)
1916 - 1924: Woodrow Wilson (D)
1924 - 1932: Al Smith (D)
1932 - 1936: Herbert Hoover (R)
1936 - 1944: Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D)
1944 - 1948: Henry Wallace (D)
1948 - 1956: Thomas Dewey (R)
1956 - 1964: Richard Nixon (R)
1964 - 1968: John Fitzgerald Kennedy (D)
1968 - 1976: Hubert Humphrey (D)
1976 - 1984: Ronald Reagan (R)
1984 - 1992: Michael Dukakis (D)
1992 - 2000: Jack Kemp (R)
2000 - 2008: Al Gore (D)
2008 - 2016: Andrew Cuomo (D)
 
And who suceeded him? I'm on the edge of my seat.

Thought it’d be fun to split it by era/party system, with pre-Worthington being the Fifth Party System, Humphrey being that party system’s spent energy and Percy being the first forces against it. The Sixth Party System begins with a president not beholden to either major party. He founds the Independence Party while in office, which is a centrist, populist political vehicle. With the presidency gained, the following elections, beginning in ‘82 see the Independence Party begins to build its caucuses in the House (where many incumbents defected to the new president) and the senate (which had two independent senators, minus John Chafee, who join the party upon its creation).

1988: Sen. Jack Eckerd (R/I-FL)/Gov. Robert Finch (R/I-CA)
Gov. Samuel Griffin (D-GA)/Gov. Robert Edgar (D-PA)

1992: Pres. Jack Eckerd (R/I-FL)/VP Robert Finch (R/I-CA)
Sen. William Arnone (D-NY)/Lawrence Fountain (D-NC)

1996: Sen. Pierre Howard (D/I-GA)/Gov. Jack Cullerton (D/I-IL)
Gov. Fred Thompson (R-TN)/ Gov.John Silber (R-TX)

2000: Pres. Pierre Howard (D-GA)/VP Jack Cullerton (D-IL)
Gov. Fred Thompson (R/I-TN)/Sen. Tommy Thompson (R/I-WI)

2004: Gov. Nat Goldhaber (IR-OR)/Sen. Matt McCoy (IR-NC)
VP Jack Cullerton (D-IL)/Sen. William Waller (D-MS)

WI: Johnson dies of a heart attack in 1967

Abridged list of Presidents:
36th - Lyndon Baines Johnson 1963-1967* (
Democratic)
37th - Hubert Horatio Humphrey 1967-1973 (
Democratic)
38th - Charles Harting Percy 1973-1981 (
Republican)
39th - Calvin Coolidge Worthington 1981-1989 (
Independent/Independence)
*Died in office

40th - Jack Milton Eckerd (Republican)
41st - Pierre DuVinage Howard (Democratic)
42nd - A. Nathaniel Goldhaber (Independent Republican)

Following Cal Worthington’s re-election, it became very clear to the Independence Party that they cannot run a reliably successful candidate as a third party. From then on, they would attempt to be a kingmaker, co-endorsing the Democratic or Republican candidate that best aligned with their interests. Worthington left office with a 66% approval rating and would serve as the party’s premier member, and only president, for the rest of his life.

His immediate successor would be Florida Republican Senator Jack Eckerd, a rich, flamboyant drug company owner who nearly divided both parties with his nomination. The growing conservative movement within the Republican Party backed Rep. Pat Buchanan of Virginia in the primaries against Eckerd and hundreds of Buchanan’s delegates boycotted the RNC rather than nominate him. They would attempt to run Buchanan on a Conservative Party ticket line, but failed to gain ballot access in half of the states along with very little national attention, which was focused in on Democratic Party infighting and Eckerd’s remarkable charisma and dual party endorsements. Sam Griffin of Georgia and Bob Edgar of Pennsylvania had spent the election season rallying against each other and proved a poor unity ticket. Bill Arnone and Lawrence Fountain, both boring technocrats, worked much better together but were hardly able to win over anybody besides Democratic partisans. Eckerd would serve eight years, overseeing the Colombian War and the Tech Boom of the 1990s.

Eckerd’s term ended with a recession, minor compared to the economic woes of the ‘70s, but still the worst economic situation since then. Georgia Governor, “boy wonder” Pierre Howard would succeed Eckerd, winning the Independent nomination over the Tennessean Fred Thompson. He would institute a national healthcare system and pull his entire party kicking and screaming into embracing social democracy. Among some, this ran counter to his campaign into office, which was about unity and improving the economy, but came about fixing its faults so nobody was left out to suffer. For his re-election campaign, Howard would once again face Fred Thompson, but this time Thompson would be armed with the Independence endorsement. Their defeat would be a major rejection of business centrism as the ruling philosophy for the nation. The Independence Party would also see major losses in the following midterms. Weak and on the decline, the Independence Party would agree to uniting with the Republican Party, giving the new Independent Republican Party a majority in the Senate. This majority would obstruct and stonewall President Howard whenever possible.

Howard spent his last two years in office as a lame duck, but still pretty damn popular. His VP, the very old Jack Cullerton, would narrowly lose to Oregon Governor Nat Goldhaber. Goldhaber was a very liberal Republican and a committed environmentalist. His election swept a new generation of liberal-leaning Republicans into power, the most left wing GOP leadership since Teddy Roosevelt’s time. He would do all he could to balance the budget and strengthen environmental protections, coming up short of his desired goals, but achieving enough to satisfy himself and his base.
 
1861-1865: Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME)
Def: John C. Breckinridge (SD-KY)/Joseph P. Lane (SD-OR); John Bell (CU-TN)/Edward Everett (CU-PA); Stephen A. Douglas (ND-IL)/Herschel V. Johnson (ND-GA)
1865-1869: George B. McClellan (D-NJ)/Samuel S. Cox (D-OH)
Def: William H. Seward (LR-NY)/Lyman Trumbull (LR-IL); John C. Frémont (RR-CA)/Benjamin F. Wade (RR-OH)
1869-1873: John W. Geary (LR-PA)/Schuyler Colfax (LR-IN)
Def: Samuel S. Cox (D-OH)/James E. English (D-CT)
1873-1873: John W. Geary (LR-PA) (Died in office)/Schuyler Colfax (LR-IN)
Def: Francis P. Blair (D-MO)/John T. Hoffman (D-NY)
1873-1877: Schuyler Colfax (LR-IN)/Vacant
1877-1881: Thomas A. Hendricks (D-IN)/Joel S. Parker (D-NJ)
Def: John Sherman (LR-OH)/Frederick T. Frelinghuysen (LR-NJ)
I rushed this one out without explaining anything really, here's a quick explanation:
- 1860 goes as OTL, but Grant invades Kentucky in 1861, which eventually causes the war to end with Britain holding negotiations to end the war.

- By 1864 the Republicans have fractured into moderate "Liberal Republicans", and abolitionist "Radical Republicans." George B. McClellan wins on a platform of conservatism and careful vigilance against the Confederate threat. Late in his term, McClellan signs the 13th amendment, allowing for gradual emancipation of all slaves in the United States. It's a polarizing move, especially as it requires the support of the Liberal and Radical Republicans to be passed.

- McClellan declines to run for a second term, leaving the Democrats without a clear frontrunner in 1868. All other nominees are too old, too unknown, or unwilling. Vice President "Sunset" Cox is nominated, finally, with McClellan's support. The Republican factions reunite under popular Pennsylvania governor and war hero John W. Geary. The Liberal Republicans go on to defeat Cox quite handily.

- Geary is easily renominated in 1872, while Missouri senator and general Francis P. Blair is chosen by the Democrats. Surprisingly, President Geary dies not even a year into his second term, leaving Vice President Schuyler Colfax to succeed him.

- After eight years of Liberal government, the people once again choose the Democratic platform of sound money and conservatism, as the popular Indiana senator Thomas Hendricks is elected over the lacklustre John Sherman. The latter's statements supporting silver coinage left the Liberals in an awkward situation, as well as experiencing some severe "buyer's remorse."
 
Presidents of the United States of America
42. 1993-1997: William J. "Bill" Clinton / Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (Democratic)
1992: President George H.W. Bush / Vice President J. Danforth "Dan" Quayle (Republican), Mr. Ross Perot / VADM (Ret). James Stockdale (Independent)
43. 1997-2005: Arlen Specter / George Deukmejian (Republican)
1996: President William J. "Bill" Clinton / Vice President Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (Democratic), Mr. Ross Perot / Mr. Pat Choate (Reform), Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom ("Resistance" Republican)
2000: Fmr. Vice President Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. / Senator Frank Lautenberg (Democratic), Businessman Donald J. Trump / Fmr Governor Richard "Dick" Lamm (Reform), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom ("Resistance" Republican)
44. 2005-2013: Robert "Bob" Graham / Evan Bayh (Democratic)
2004: Secretary of Labor Lynn M. Martin / Fmr. Governor Christine Todd Whitman (Republican), Businessman Donald J. Trump / Fmr Governor Jesse Ventura (Reform), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Willis Carto ("Resistance" Republican)
2008: Fmr. Governor Willard M. Romney / U.S. Rep. Eric Cantor (Republican)

45. 2013-2000: Michael Bloomberg / Norman "Norm" Coleman (Republican)
2012: Vice President Evan Bayh / Senator John Kerry (Democratic), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Willis Carto (National Republican)
2016: Governor Ed Rendell / Senator Joseph "Joe" Biden (Democratic), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom (National Republican)
 
Presidents of the United States of America
42. 1993-1997: William J. "Bill" Clinton / Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (Democratic)
1992: President George H.W. Bush / Vice President J. Danforth "Dan" Quayle (Republican), Mr. Ross Perot / VADM (Ret). James Stockdale (Independent)
43. 1997-2005: Arlen Specter / George Deukmejian (Republican)
1996: President William J. "Bill" Clinton / Vice President Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. (Democratic), Mr. Ross Perot / Mr. Pat Choate (Reform), Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom ("Resistance" Republican)
2000: Fmr. Vice President Albert "Al" Gore, Jr. / Senator Frank Lautenberg (Democratic), Businessman Donald J. Trump / Fmr Governor Richard "Dick" Lamm (Reform), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom ("Resistance" Republican)

44. 2005-2013: Robert "Bob" Graham / Evan Bayh (Democratic)
2004: Secretary of Labor Lynn M. Martin / Fmr. Governor Christine Todd Whitman (Republican), Businessman Donald J. Trump / Fmr Governor Jesse Ventura (Reform), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Willis Carto ("Resistance" Republican)
2008: Fmr. Governor Willard M. Romney / U.S. Rep. Eric Cantor (Republican)

45. 2013-2000: Michael Bloomberg / Norman "Norm" Coleman (Republican)
2012: Vice President Evan Bayh / Senator John Kerry (Democratic), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Willis Carto (National Republican)
2016: Governor Ed Rendell / Senator Joseph "Joe" Biden (Democratic), Fmr. Senator David Duke / Mr. Kevin Alfred Strom (National Republican)

'Resistance' Republicans: Hmm who should we nominate this time?
David Duke: ME!
RRs: Hmm, we've nominated you four times before and never won, maybe we should go with someone el-
DD: NOMINATE ME AGAIN, DAMMIT!
RRs: OK, OK, fine!
 
A Place Called Hope: A Bill Clinton TL
Inspired by a recent thread of mine on Bill Clinton, the POD is that Clinton's father William Blythe Jr never dies as a result of a car accident. As planned, he moves the Blythe family to Chicago where his son William Jefferson Blythe III is born in 1946.

1946-1981: Same as OTL
40. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989), R-CA
41. George H.W. Bush (1989-1993), R-TX

42. Bill Blythe (1993-2001), D-IL
43. Al Gore (2001-2005), D-TN

44. John McCain (2005-2013), R-AZ
45. Barack Obama (2013-2021), D-IL


With a supportive father who raises him in a mostly stable household under better financial circumstances, the young Bill Blythe is deeply changed from OTL. Motivated by his genuine compassion for other people, but tempered by the guidance from his father, Blythe enters politics in the 1970s as a Democrat. In 1974 he wins a US House seat from Chicago, and four years later Blythe challenges Republican Senator Chuck Percy. Although Blythe loses the election, the narrow margin of his defeat makes him a rising star in Illinois politics. In 1982 Blythe narrowly unseats Republican Governor James R. Thompson, and in 1986 he is re-elected in a landslide. Devoid of the messy personal life and scandals that hampered Bill Clinton from running in OTL, Blythe jumps into the 1988 presidential race. He wins the Iowa caucus and comes close to the nomination, but ultimately is defeated by Michael Dukakis. Blythe is distraught, thinking that his only chance to win the presidency has passed by. Yet Dukakis' loss in the general election opens the door for Blythe's comeback in 1992. This time, Blythe takes the nomination and wins the general election.

With his time as Illinois' Governor an important learning experience, Blythe carefully implements his liberal domestic agenda. He starts small with a middle class tax cut and an economic stimulus before moving onto healthcare reform after the 1994 midterm elections. In 1996 Blythe is re-elected in a landslide, and his Vice-President Al Gore defeats George W. Bush in 2000. A recession in 2001 leads to a Republican takeover of Congress in 2002, and John McCain is elected President in 2004.

Since then, McCain was re-elected in 2008 when he defeated former First Lady and Senator Hillary Rodham Blythe. A political protege of Bill Blythe, Senator Barack Obama, became America's first black President in 2013. Almost twenty years after he left office, Blythe's liberal legacy remains mostly in tact although his tough stance on crime has come under criticism by progressives.
 
'Resistance' Republicans: Hmm who should we nominate this time?
David Duke: ME!
RRs: Hmm, we've nominated you four times before and never won, maybe we should go with someone el-
DD: NOMINATE ME AGAIN, DAMMIT!
RRs: OK, OK, fine!

Well he is a persistent racist ass. :p

But really the "Resistance Republicans" are basically a collection of neo-Nazis, ex-KKK members, and racist/antisemitic individuals emboldened by Duke winning the 1990 Louisiana senatorial campaign, and saw his expulsion as part of an 'anti-White conspiracy'.
 
what was he expelled on?
I don't think you can be expelled for that,censured sure but expelled no.

So while the Senate can't actually refuse to seat a member, they can determine who can sit in the Senate. The Senate Ethics Manual says that the Senate can protect its own reputation for any conduct "so notorious or reprehensible that it could discredit the institution as a whole, not just the individual, thereby invoking the Senate's inherent and constitutional right to protect its own integrity and reputation."

So being a former Grand Wizard of the KKK, and his full-on racist and antisemitic statements, basically lead the Senate to expel him as a member.

It’s Duke... so I’m assuming hyper-racism and being part of the KKK?

Pretty much.
 
Mr. Willis Carto (National Republican)

Ah, yes, the guy who was so anti-Semitic the John Birch Society expelled him; yeah, the John Birch Society kicked him out for being too anti-Semitic. Let me put it this way: when the John Birch Society thinks you're too anti-Semitic, that's saying something...
 
A Nation Healed Again and Broken Again: Gerald Ford Elected in 1980 (and Beyond):

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI)/ Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): 1974-1977
39. Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/ Walter Mondale (D-MN): 1977-1981
40. Gerald Ford (R-CA)/ Jack Kemp* (R-NY): 1981-1981
Gerald Ford (R-CA)/ Vacant: 1981-1981
Gerald Ford (R-CA)/ Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 1981-1985
41. Gary Hart (D-CO)/ John Glenn (D-OH): 1985-1989
Gary Hart (D-CO)/ George Bush (R-TX): 1989-1993
42. George Bush (R-TX)/ George Deukmejian (R-CA): 1993-2001
43. Pete Wilson (R-CA)/ Trent Lott (R-MS): 2001-2005
44. Joe Biden (D-DE)/ Hillary Rodham (D-IL): 2005-2013
45. Jeb Bush (R-FL)/ Sarah Palin (R-AK): 2013-2017
46. Russ Feingold (D-WI)/ Gary Locke (D-WA): 2017-2025

*=Assassinated

Sorry to anyone who was looking forward to a sequel, but I just don't have it in me to do it.
Ranking the Presidents Since 1974:

1. Russ Feingold (Democratic): 2017-2025
2.
Gary Hart (Democratic): 1985-1993
3.
Joe Biden (Democratic): 2005-2013
4.
Gerald Ford (Republican): 1974-1977, 1981-1985
5.
Jimmy Carter (Democratic): 1977-1981
6.
George Bush (Republican): 1993-2001
7.
Pete Wilson (Republican): 2001-2005
8.
Jeb Bush (Republican): 2009-2013
 
What the Bush Family probably fantasizes:
40. George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 1981-1989| VP: Bob Dole
41. Bob Dole (R-KS) 1989-1997| VP: John McCain
42. John McCain (R-AZ) 1997-2005| VP: George W. Bush
43. George W. Bush (R-TX) 2005-2013| VP: Tom Ridge
44. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2013-2021| VP: Jeb Bush
45. Jeb Bush (R-FL) 2021-2029| VP: George P. Bush

What the Clintons probably fantasize:
41. Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1989-1997| VP: Al Gore
42. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2005| VP: John Kerry
43. John Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2013| VP: Hillary Clinton
44. Hillary Clinton (D-IL) 2013-2021| VP: Terry McAuliffe [1]
45. Barack Obama (D-HI) 2021-2029| VP: Chelsea Clinton
46. Chelsea Clinton (D-NY) 2029-2037| VP: ??

[1] In ATL, Terry McAuliffe would be elected Governor of Virginia in the Virginia Gubernatorial Election of 2005 (instead of OTL's Tim Kaine).
 
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What the Bush Family probably fantasizes:
40. George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 1981-1989| VP: Bob Dole
41. Bob Dole (R-KS) 1989-1997| VP: John McCain
42. John McCain
* (R-AZ) 1997-2005| VP: George W. Bush
43. George W. Bush (R-TX) 2005-2013| VP: Mitt Romney
44. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2013-2021| VP: Jeb Bush
45. Jeb Bush (R-FL) 2021-2029| VP: ??
**

What the Clintons probably fantasize:
41. Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1989-1997| VP: Al Gore
42. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2005| VP: John Kerry
43. John Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2013| VP: Hillary Clinton
44. Hillary Clinton (D-IL) 2013-2021| VP: Evan Bayh
45. Barack Obama (D-IL) 2021-2029| VP: Beau Biden

*Do the Bushs like McCain? He did run a rough campaign again GWB in 2000.

**George P. Bush as VP would be very funny.
 
What the Bush Family probably fantasizes:
40. George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 1981-1989| VP: Bob Dole
41. Bob Dole (R-KS) 1989-1997| VP: John McCain
42. John McCain (R-AZ) 1997-2005| VP: George W. Bush
43. George W. Bush (R-TX) 2005-2013| VP: Mitt Romney
44. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 2013-2021| VP: Jeb Bush
45. Jeb Bush (R-FL) 2021-2029| VP: ??

What the Clintons probably fantasize:
41. Bill Clinton (D-AR) 1989-1997| VP: Al Gore
42. Al Gore (D-TN) 1997-2005| VP: John Kerry
43. John Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2013| VP: Hillary Clinton
44. Hillary Clinton (D-IL) 2013-2021| VP: Evan Bayh
45. Barack Obama (D-IL) 2021-2029| VP: Beau Biden

Needs some Chelsea for the Clinton dream
 
*Do the Bushs like McCain? He did run a rough campaign again GWB in 2000.
They liked McCain when they weren't running against him. Plus, I added him as a sort of twist for there to be a different "Vice President George Bush" in ATL.
**George P. Bush as VP would be very funny.
Needs some Chelsea for the Clinton dream
Fixed, or should Beau Biden get a swing at the presidency? I could always add that.
 
Inspired by the above lists, I give you...
The Two Choices
George HW Bush/Dan Quayle 1989-1997
Bill Clinton/Al Gore 1997-2005
George W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld 2005-2013
Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh 2013-2021
Jeb Bush/Ted Cruz 2021-2029
Chelsea Clinton/Pete Buttigieg 2029-2037
George P. Bush/John James 2037-2045
Charlotte Clinton Mezvinsky/Ro Khanna 2045-2053*
Georgia HW Bush/CJ Pearson 2053-2061
Aidan Clinton Mezvinsky/Thomas Edwards 2061-2069
John Bush/Todd Keeley 2069-2077
Jeffrey Clinton Mezvinsky Stewart/Benjamin Fernandez 2077-2085
Prescott Bush IV/Erica Hutz 2085-2093

VALerie Clinton v. 1.6/Denise Longstocking 2093-2101**
Resurrected Consciousness of Prescott Bush I/Jeremy Butler 2101-***

*Constitutional amendment lowering the age threshold for the presidency to 30 passed in 2031
**Constitutional amendment allowing all AI entities capable of passing the Turing test to run for the presidency passed in 2066
***Constitutional amendment allowing for resurrected minds to pursue the presidency passed in 2093
 
What the Kennedy Family probably fantasizes:
35. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1957-1965| VP: Stuart Symington
36. Stuart Symington (D-MO) 1965-1973| VP: Henry M. Jackson
37. Henry M. Jackson (D-WA) 1973-1981| VP: Robert F. Kennedy
38. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1981-1989| VP: John Glenn
39. John Glenn (D-OH) 1989-1997| VP: Lloyd Bentsen
40. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) 1997-2005| VP: Bob Kerrey
41. John Kerry (D-MA) 2005-2013| VP: Dick Gephardt
42. John F.Kennedy Jr (D-MA) 2013-2021| VP: Tom Vilsack
43. Caroline Kennedy (D-NY) 2021-2029| VP: Barack Obama
44. Joe Kennedy III (D-MA) 2029-2037| VP: ??

FTFY
 
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