Pop Culture Timelines Go-To Thread

WI Francis Ford Coppola, instead of Keanu Reeves, casts Daniel Day-Lewis as Jonathan Harker in Bram Stoker's Dracula? (Interestingly, he and Winona Ryder, who played Mina in the aforementioned film, starred as an engaged couple in The Age of Innocence and also co-starred in the film version of The Crucible...)

IMO, Day-Lewis would do better in the role than Reeves did (it helps, of course, that he's actually British; Reeves gave up trying to do a British accent); yeah, he's in his mid-30s, but that hasn't stopped casting directors before...

And, if Day-Lewis method acts like he's done, he'll probably be remembered for giving a good performance, IMO...
 
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I wonder what the cultural effects would be of Michael Jackson dying in 2016 rather than 2009 and Prince dying in 2009 rather than 2016 (both with drug overdoses). Not to diss Prince, but I know they're on two different levels of fame, so perhaps this is a question of how would Michael change pop culture by living well into the 2010s

What do you guys think?
 
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Raquel Welch as Poison Ivy in the Batman episodes "A Tree grows in Gotham " & " To Plant a Bomb" 1967
 
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From my Marvel Primetime universe in the Media fandom fourm
Because Spiderman is a member of the Fantastic Four in the 80's the original idea for Venom was used as John Byrne (Writer & Artist of FF) thought that a Woman who blamed Spiderman for her miscarriage could be equally an opponent for Invisible Woman as well
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From my Marvel Primetime universe in the Media fandom fourm
Because Spiderman is a member of the Fantastic Four in the 80's the original idea for Venom was used as John Byrne (Writer & Artist of FF) thought that a Woman who blamed Spiderman for her miscarriage could be equally an opponent for Invisible Woman as well

I seem to recall in OTL Byrne really disliked Venom as a character idea.
 
Some interesting Doctor Who PoDs (organised by Doctor)

1

  1. The Raj gets made instead of The Dalek Invasion Of Earth, causing the alternation of historicals and SF to continue

  2. The Destroyers and the Dalek Killers spinoff get made.
2

  1. Someone stated that there was a pitch to have, as a fifth anniversary special "The Dalek Invasion Of Vortis" that would have featured Hartnell as an impostor (like in The Chase). Oh, dear. Oh, dear. (It might have been a joke)

  2. Lords of the Red Planet (or something else?) and The Laird of MacCrimmon at the end of S6 with a 2+Zoe S7 and no SoE

  3. 2 regenerates and Jamie leaves but Zoe stays and SoE never happens
3

  1. Liz stays longer

  2. Delgado's car never crashes

  3. Pertwee quits after Delgado's car crashes
4

  1. Krikkitmen instead of Key to Time
5

  1. No Saward
6

  1. Full Season 23
7

  1. No John Peel or the "darker and edgier" memo

  2. Frock victory

  3. Squid victory

  4. No TVM
8

  1. VNAs and VMAs continue

  2. EDAs allowed to wrap up properly
9

  1. PACT/SotS continuity followed by NuWho (Eccleston as 10th Dr)

  2. Eccleston not blackballed
Big Finish

  1. Tom Baker signs up earlier

  2. Big Finish follows EDAT or PACT

  3. Big Finish does not obtain NuWho rights

  4. Life After Death actually gets made
 

Bulldoggus

Banned
A trend I've noticed, time and time again, is the constant geek-culture wanks that pop up on this site. For instance, I have yet to see a single Trek-Screw, even though doing that is a trillion times easier than the three-cherries at three machines in three casinos in three hours odds of some of the Trek!Wanks that can pop up hereabouts. Similarly, Superhero Universes seem to always start early, and the concept as a whole never blows up on the launchpad. Star Wars is always made and always released during that May-1977 heatwave that had the West Coast lining up at any AC'd building (this includes the freak heatwaves that happen during Chistmastime 1976 in some TLs! Who'da thunk it :openedeyewink:?) All other TLs seem to be bamboozled by the strange OTL delusion that Doctor Who is good. Its bad AH practice TBH. Political TLs that wank ideologies are generally frowned upon. We should view Pop Culture Timelines that wank the author's favorite things similarly. There are trade-offs in all things, and the fact is even in the best TLs, things you like will not exist.

SO.....
Justice League of America (2005)
dir. Joel Schumacher

Batman- Stephen Baldwin
Robin- Chris O'Donnell
Superman- Shaquille O'Neal
The Flash- Ricky Martin
Wonder Woman- Jennifer Garner
Green Lantern- Larry the Cable Guy
Lex Luther- Mel Gibson
The Joker- Eminem
Catwoman- Halle Berry

21% on Rotten Tomatoes

Sometimes ya gotta kill your darlings, people. Play with the side effects. Try to tease out how a good thing can turn into a bad thing and a bad thing into a good thing.
 

Bulldoggus

Banned
Is it a wank or a screw? Both and neither.
Cultural TL idea.
  • Some variant of the Beatles' LotR trilogy comes out in the 60's (maybe Harryhausen-directed?) Makes fucking bank because it was the Beatles in the 60's for Christ's sake, and plus it can be a summer matinee for stoners for decades to come.
  • SFF becomes heavily associated with rock music in general and prog/arena rock in particular. A lot of proggy rock operas get made in the next decade. Some are good (those based on really good material and those based on really good music), many are just the opposite. Star Wars is a tag-along deep into the decline of the genre, tied to some fifth-rate band.
  • Punk culture thus loathes SFF.
  • Maybe superhero movies, such as they exist, are (rock?) musicals save for the pop culture icon outside of comics triumvirate of Superman-Batman-Wonder Woman.
  • Eventually GRRM/Gene Wolfe/Jack Vance could become a vanguard of non musical/animated SFF?
  • Ties to SFF keep Prog/Arena in the game longer. Ties to Prog/Arena give SFF nerds a druggie rep (fun drugs like alc, weed, and the occasional psychedelic, miserable drugs like meth and heroin go to the punks). Which means nerds may not be such insufferable nerds!
  • Everyone gets into AH and we all become gods, IDK.
 
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