Alternate Electoral Maps III
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A somewhat fair congressional district map of Michigan if the US House was expanded to follow the Cube Root Rule.
Here is a map that I made for my country's election on NationStates, known as The Free Land of Desurey. In OTL, this is northwestern California. PDP is a Dem. Socialist Party, and the other ones are self explanatory.
I like how my 30,000 people per district idea is becoming so popular with mappers
This whole talk of the Cube Root Rule has got me motivated to work on my Parliament of America election maps. For those of you who don't know, in June (damn, it was all the way back in June?), I began work on a Parliament of America map, starting with the 2010 House and Senate elections, with all the Senate races being held at once. It was based on Tim Turner's Parliament of Columbia series. After the 2010 Census, I planned to expand the House to allow more constituencies. Except there was one problem: I didn't know how many seats I wanted the new House to have. I could have gone with the Wyoming Rule, but I kinda forgot about that. So instead, I'm gonna go with the Cube Root Rule for determining the size of all Parliaments 2nd and beyond.
Goldwater’s Revenge
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Howard Baker (R-TN) - 473 EV, 39% PV
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 65 EV, 36% PV
John Anderson (I-IL)/Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 0 EV, 24% PV
I know this is a result probably based off a president elect game, but realistically I do not see Anderson not getting any electoral votes whatsoever if he won 24 percent of the vote. I feel like he would have at least gotten Massachusetts at that score. That or a random faithless elector or two (given the landslide I can imagine there being one or two people on either side saying "fuck it, not like it will really matter")
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It's also unlikely that any Southern states would be won by either Carter or Goldwater with less than 40% of the vote, considering Anderson has virtually no appeal to the South.
So everyone i'm going to do a Conservative Democrat v.s Liberal Republican election. (And no it's not a Joe Manchin vs Charlie Baker thing). But instead something with a divergence in the 1960 with Nelson Rockefeller being Richard Nixon's running mate and Nixon still losing to Kennedy in 60. But Rockefeller does win the nomination in 68 and ultimately the presidency. With the Republicans slowly shifting more towards the Rockefeller Republican's overall during the 70s and 80s. (Even nominating John Anderson in 1980 instead of Roland Reagan and Collin Powell in 1996 with Anderson winning two terms in the 80s and Powell being Vice President with Bush). Meanwhile the Democrats blaming their loss in 68 to a stronger George Wallace campaign. (He wins Tennessee & South Carolina in this timeline along with breaking 25% in Missouri and Maryland along with generally better with the Urban working class in Northern cities) So the Democrats do maintain some support for the Civil rights movement. But generally backtracks on culture war and social issues in general to focus more on economic issues and ending the Vietnam war. Largely to appeal to the union voter bloc which become's more central to the Democratic coalition. By the election of 2016. Both parties have sort of become opposite of each other culturally as they would in OTL's 2016. With the Democrats being Pro-Gun,Pro-Life and increasingly Protectionist and Anti-Immigrant in response to the rightward drift of their base and the Republicans calling for at least a truce on social issues or even adopting liberal positions to separate themselves from their opponents. The current political divide is over the issue of protectionism,free trade and immigration as seen below:
The Parties and their candidates
Democratic: AFL-CIO President Donald "Don" Trevisan (NJ) His first foray into politics was in his senior year at Sanford University when he lead the first strike of College Football players in the PAC-10 conference. Demanding pay for their services and more concessions for their education. For which the strike brought the PAC-10 to a halt and saw widespread sympathy in other College conferences and sports. For which caused the state of California to start paying College football players in their system directly starting in 1981 along with Stanford and all power 5 conference schools to follow during the 80s and 90s. He would also play a leading role in the 1987 NFL players strike as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. After he retried from Football in 1991 he became an announcer for ESPN's College Football Coverage and later Monday Night Football and the NFL draft. Being notable for having a larger than life personality,His hot takes on both Football and later politics on Twitter. Including being a very public critic of President Evan Bayh and criticizing the "Lack of Action on Urban Crime & the Cartels" ever since he left Football. He would also mediate the 2007 WGA strike between the Networks and the WGA as an sports announcer is a member of the SGA was of a "neutral party". He was elected AFL-CIO president in 2010 and lead it until 2014 when he prepared for his presidential campaign. For which he became the nominate by much of the surprise of the Democratic establishment with his fiery borderline demographic rallies,A brash brand of social conservatism and a calling Mexican immigrants "Murders and Drug Pushers". While the crowed Democratic field to succeed Byah largely tripped over themselves to prevent him from winning. But in the end he lit up the Democratic base of white working class men. Especially in their strongholds of the Great Lakes. Which is where the party is strongest in this timeline. At the cost of places like New York and the West Coast being swing states. But the Democarts still have strong followings in New England and among more conservative African-American voters in the south. Opening up more of the Region and his strength among the WWC have opened up Appalachia as a possibly route of victory. But in other places the weaker democratic focus on "New Immigrants" since the 70s have costed them the Hispanic and Asian votes. Which means the Southwest,Texas and Florida are likely to be Republican this year. His main appeals are based on raising tariffs and rejecting free trade treaties, Building a border wall and cutting down on immigration from Latin America & Asia and a overall economic revival for the Rustbelt.
Republican: Senator Philomena Jones (MD) The creator of the CyberLive a "Twitch-YouTube hybrid" (To put in the context of our world) in 2002 at age 27 after graduating with a masters in international relations from John's Hopkins University. It grew to be the world's primer video sharing and streaming service by 2005 when it was bought by the Walt Disney company in turn for Philiomena becoming the executive head for Digital & New Media for the media giant. But in 2007 president Bush appointed her to be Ambassador to Japan and later ran for the U.S Senate in Maryland in 2010 beating Barbara Mikulski in a national headline making victory in a reliably Democratic state and was one of the more effective and well known freshmen Republicans from that class. But knowing her reelection chances were comparatively slim in 2016. She started a bold ran for the presidency in 2015. Defining herself against the "moderate favorite" Rick Scott as a "True Progressive for the 21st century". In the vein of Teddy Roosevelt and Nelson Rockefeller. With a strong speaking ability and magnetism. Along with being the 1st female to be nominated by a major party for president. She is going to heavily count on Suburban and Female voters to carry the day. Along with having a strong rapport with Asian,Hispanic and Younger voters and being media savvy in general. Her campaign will draw both orthodox Republican strongholds in the Rockies,Plains and Texas. But also the "Rockefeller Republicans" strongholds like Seattle and NYC where they regularly elect Republican mayors. The suburban sprawl's of Southern California and South Florida and the "Teutonic" states of Minnesota (The West Virginia politically of this timeline),Wisconsin,Illinois,Pennsylvania and of course Maryland. Who were put off by Trevisan's rather course and unhinged politics. Philiomena is running on a mix of both traditional Republican talking points like Balancing the budget and being business friendly but also adding in calls for Social Liberalism,amnesty & path to citizenship for immigrants (Or at least an easier work/study visa program),Massive investments into Infrastructure and Technology including a revitalized space program and signing major trade pacts with Latin America,Europe and the Pacific Rim and a "NATO's for Latin America and the Pacific Rim".
The World in Context:
AFL-CIO President Donald Trevisan (NJ)/Senator Jon Tester (MT)-212 Electoral:45.9% Popular
Minors (Libertarian,Green,Christian Freedom,Etc)-0 Electoral: 3.7% Popular
The Parties and their candidates
Democratic: AFL-CIO President Donald "Don" Trevisan (NJ) His first foray into politics was in his senior year at Sanford University when he lead the first strike of College Football players in the PAC-10 conference. Demanding pay for their services and more concessions for their education. For which the strike brought the PAC-10 to a halt and saw widespread sympathy in other College conferences and sports. For which caused the state of California to start paying College football players in their system directly starting in 1981 along with Stanford and all power 5 conference schools to follow during the 80s and 90s. He would also play a leading role in the 1987 NFL players strike as a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. After he retried from Football in 1991 he became an announcer for ESPN's College Football Coverage and later Monday Night Football and the NFL draft. Being notable for having a larger than life personality,His hot takes on both Football and later politics on Twitter. Including being a very public critic of President Evan Bayh and criticizing the "Lack of Action on Urban Crime & the Cartels" ever since he left Football. He would also mediate the 2007 WGA strike between the Networks and the WGA as an sports announcer is a member of the SGA was of a "neutral party". He was elected AFL-CIO president in 2010 and lead it until 2014 when he prepared for his presidential campaign. For which he became the nominate by much of the surprise of the Democratic establishment with his fiery borderline demographic rallies,A brash brand of social conservatism and a calling Mexican immigrants "Murders and Drug Pushers". While the crowed Democratic field to succeed Byah largely tripped over themselves to prevent him from winning. But in the end he lit up the Democratic base of white working class men. Especially in their strongholds of the Great Lakes. Which is where the party is strongest in this timeline. At the cost of places like New York and the West Coast being swing states. But the Democarts still have strong followings in New England and among more conservative African-American voters in the south. Opening up more of the Region and his strength among the WWC have opened up Appalachia as a possibly route of victory. But in other places the weaker democratic focus on "New Immigrants" since the 70s have costed them the Hispanic and Asian votes. Which means the Southwest,Texas and Florida are likely to be Republican this year. His main appeals are based on raising tariffs and rejecting free trade treaties, Building a border wall and cutting down on immigration from Latin America & Asia and a overall economic revival for the Rustbelt.
Republican: Senator Philomena Jones (MD) The creator of the CyberLive a "Twitch-YouTube hybrid" (To put in the context of our world) in 2002 at age 27 after graduating with a masters in international relations from John's Hopkins University. It grew to be the world's primer video sharing and streaming service by 2005 when it was bought by the Walt Disney company in turn for Philiomena becoming the executive head for Digital & New Media for the media giant. But in 2007 president Bush appointed her to be Ambassador to Japan and later ran for the U.S Senate in Maryland in 2010 beating Barbara Mikulski in a national headline making victory in a reliably Democratic state and was one of the more effective and well known freshmen Republicans from that class. But knowing her reelection chances were comparatively slim in 2016. She started a bold ran for the presidency in 2015. Defining herself against the "moderate favorite" Rick Scott as a "True Progressive for the 21st century". In the vein of Teddy Roosevelt and Nelson Rockefeller. With a strong speaking ability and magnetism. Along with being the 1st female to be nominated by a major party for president. She is going to heavily count on Suburban and Female voters to carry the day. Along with having a strong rapport with Asian,Hispanic and Younger voters and being media savvy in general. Her campaign will draw both orthodox Republican strongholds in the Rockies,Plains and Texas. But also the "Rockefeller Republicans" strongholds like Seattle and NYC where they regularly elect Republican mayors. The suburban sprawl's of Southern California and South Florida and the "Teutonic" states of Minnesota (The West Virginia politically of this timeline),Wisconsin,Illinois,Pennsylvania and of course Maryland. Who were put off by Trevisan's rather course and unhinged politics. Philiomena is running on a mix of both traditional Republican talking points like Balancing the budget and being business friendly but also adding in calls for Social Liberalism,amnesty & path to citizenship for immigrants (Or at least an easier work/study visa program),Massive investments into Infrastructure and Technology including a revitalized space program and signing major trade pacts with Latin America,Europe and the Pacific Rim and a "NATO's for Latin America and the Pacific Rim".
The World in Context:
- Latin America has recently went thru a series of Arab-Spring style uprisings that toppled authoritarian governments in Central and South America. Mostly right-wing ones that were pro-US. While some like Brazil,Argentina and Guatemala appear to be going down either towards Liberalism or Social Democracy. Other's like Venezuela and Bolivia are moving further left.
- Mexico was destabilized by the "Latin Spring" where the PRI dominated,American backed government. has been suppressing protest movements and the cartels. Who have hijacked the chaos for their own benefits. Currently Mexico is in the middle of a economic free fall,an unprecedented crime wave and a "soft civil war" causing millions of Mexicans to flee to the U.S as refugees or to simply find work or safety.
- China's economic miracle never took off properly and China remains poor to this day. (Which explains why manufacturing/union movement in the U.S is still very strong). It remains openly hostile to the west. In part due to the collapse of North Korea in the late 90s which caused a large number of North Korean to move to China and have become the most stalwart supporters of the regime. They have even gone as far as encouraging Beijing to have regular missile/nuclear tests.
- In turn with a rouge China and a Korea focused on rebuilding the North. Japan is still a major contender for world's top economic player and top dog in the Pacific. They want to engage the Chinese more directly including on issue's the South China Sea and Taiwan. But are at odd's with America on trade and Hong Kong. (Tokyo want's Hong Kong & Macau to be independent republics,The U.S wants either a status quo of "UK dominion" or given to Taiwan)
- The European Federation. (Between France,Germany & the Low countries) was formed in the mid 90s as the first step towards unification. While technically more of a strong confederacy. It has it's own armed forces,budget & fiscal union and unified parliament for the member states. While their were plans to expand outward. They never happened as the European Union supplanted the need for "True Federation" and instead opted for a more limed confederation across the continent. The EF is a leading economic power with the U.S and Japan.
- America invaded Iraq in 2003, After Saddam Hussein suddenly died and Iran invaded during the chaos. The country is still recovering from the "duel invasions" and the Islamic state. Iran has also made headway into Afghanistan as well and is being primarily opposed by the The Federation of Arab Republics, A vaguely left-wing,secular regional association of Egypt, Syria,Yemen,Sudan and Algeria. Wanting a third way from Iran and the Gulf monarchies. Libya is the same as OTL.
Anyway's here's the map:
Senator Philiomena Jones (MD)/Representative Andrew Chang(NY)-326 Electoral:50.4% Popular AFL-CIO President Donald Trevisan (NJ)/Senator Jon Tester (MT)-212 Electoral:45.9% Popular
Minors (Libertarian,Green,Christian Freedom,Etc)-0 Electoral: 3.7% Popular
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The withdrawal of Stephen Douglas after the 27th ballot of the Democratic Convention of 1860 surprised everyone. The man who said that he would never leave unless he received the nomination had left the Convention—to this day no one knows why he did so. With their favored candidate gone (although he would have never gained the 2/3 votes needed), the Democrats nominated James Guthrie of Kentucky, who was favored by both northern and southern Democrats—thus preventing a split which many were beginning to see as inevitable (for now, at least). For Vice President, the Democrats chose Andrew Johnson of Tennessee, who they saw as a compromise candidate for the position.
The Republican Convention, by comparison, was a far more quiet affair. On the third ballot, the Party nominated Abraham Lincoln of Illinois for President and Hannibal Hamlin of Maine for Vice President. The Party was confident that its unity, compared to the Democrat’s near-split, would carry the day.
Alas, history told a different story.
1860:
James Guthrie (D-KY)/Andrew Johnson (D-TN); 158 EV
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (R-MN); 145 EV
By achieving narrow victories in Illinois and Indiana, James Guthrie was to become the 16th President of the United States. He will be inaugurated on March 4, 1861.
The Republican Convention, by comparison, was a far more quiet affair. On the third ballot, the Party nominated Abraham Lincoln of Illinois for President and Hannibal Hamlin of Maine for Vice President. The Party was confident that its unity, compared to the Democrat’s near-split, would carry the day.
Alas, history told a different story.
1860:
James Guthrie (D-KY)/Andrew Johnson (D-TN); 158 EV
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Hannibal Hamlin (R-MN); 145 EV
By achieving narrow victories in Illinois and Indiana, James Guthrie was to become the 16th President of the United States. He will be inaugurated on March 4, 1861.
I saw your Columbia series and decided it was a fantastic idea. So, I got to work on my own Parliament of America project[1] and made the first maps of the series, which were the votes of ratification of the 28th Amendment.
So the things from my Parliament of America project that were based on your Columbia series were
1. A multi-party system (For me this is caused by 3rd parties doing exponentially better than 2008)
2. Representatives serving 3-year terms (or less, depending on whether or not there is a snap election)
3. Senators being elected all at once (at every odd-numbered Parliamentary election)
4. The 2010 start point
5. The Parliamentary system to begin with (except with a President appointing the PM)
6. The expansion of the House of Representatives (from the 2010 census onwards)
7. The constituencies having non-number names (from the 2010 census onwards)
There are probably some more things that I just forgot about since I first found it in either May or June 2018;
[1]My possible OCD wouldn't let me jump straight into the middle of a Parliament of America election[2][3], so I went to work on the 28th Amendment. I eventually threw my original 28th Amendment text in favour of whatever I want the 28th Amendment to say, which now includes the Cube Root Rule.
[2]I didn't want to start from 1789 because that would be way too long
[3]I had not yet suffered the existential crisis that would result in me flipping off reality when I started work on the Parliament of America project