Η Δημοκρατία της Νέας Ελλάδας:New Greece in the new world

Ive been on this board for a while now and have been thinking of an idea i got from a map on deviant art and the idea of the ottomans purchasing the Louisianan territory due to a few pods


Such as a less powerful janissary corps a earlier military modernization
a stronger hold on ottoman north africa a few victorys here in there which allow for the ottomans to keep a slightly more offensive hold along with a more neutral ottoman victory and allows for them to maintain some form of semblance of stability.
Butterfly's hit here and there like the polish Lithuanian commonwealth managing to stay stable. but things maintain a large form of similarity the US gains Independence a seven years war still happens and they manage to gain Independence.And the Quasi war still happens but american french relations are poor enough that Napoleon sells the territory to the ottoman empire.


They are able to roughly maintain it through negotiations of asking for Spanish protection with the help of France backing them


The napelonic wars end in a French victory when he decides to take St. Peter's burg and manages to win mostly out of sheer luck keeping himself in order


America manages to defeat Brittany in the war of 1812 through more competence on their part and a tighter war in Europe distracting the British from Canada.

The Spanish New world is a bit of a clusterfuck of the highest order with strong men attempting to take over anywhere and everywhere


As this is happening in Europe the Greek war of independence goes sour and they are mostly defeated
Eventually only a few leaders of the movement survive
With none other then
Theodoros Kolokotronis
saying that Greece must be born again in the new world
where he takes as many greeks as he can with american help and as many leaders as he can to establish the republic of new hellas in the ottoman territory in the new world


This project will be based in 2018 and in regards to plausbility keep in mind this is my first work with the first map coming tommorrow!



This is the map this is based on https://www.deviantart.com/alt-reality/art/Turks-and-Me-97843206
 
North American States
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North America as of 2018

The countries shown below are

Oi spartakistikés dimokratíes tis néas hellas(The spartacist republic of new Hellas)
Population as of 2018:
85,354,984

The United States of New Columbia
Population as of 2018
273,675,803


Union républicaine de t'ajʃa(The Republican Union of Texas)
Population as of 2018:45,946,567


Troisième Empire du Mexique(Third Empire of Mexico)
Population as of 2018:181,529,734


Repubblica della terra dei fiori(Republic of Florida)
Population as of 2018:31,146,364






Королевство анастасиаланд
(The Kingdom of Anastasia Land OTL California)
Population as of 2018
66,517,483
 
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North American heads of states
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Korol' Konstantin Avgust Bransuik-Bevern iz Zemli Anastasii
(King Constantine Augustus Brunswick-Bevern of Anastasia Land)





Próxenos tou Proédrou Politikís Protovoulías Giánnis Varoufákis
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Consul President Citizen Initiator Yanis Varoufakis


President Christine Labrie Of the United States of New Columbia
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Premier ministre Martin Mack Bernard

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R comite praefectus Marcus Tullius. einaudi

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Earl Marshall Luigi r. einaudi

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Empereur Consul Jean Christophe Napoléon du Troisième Empire Mexicain

Emperor-Consul Jean Christophe-Napoleon of the Third Mexican Empire
 
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I think that this is a fun idea thus far. It's not the most realistic, but it's still pretty interesting and it beats a lot of the other graphic timelines in the Maps and Graphics forum where everything is just a hodgepodge of unrelated PODs.
 
I think that this is a fun idea thus far. It's not the most realistic, but it's still pretty interesting and it beats a lot of the other graphic timelines in the Maps and Graphics forum where everything is just a hodgepodge of unrelated PODs.
Thank you!
I know it’s not the most realistic but it is the first of any of my mapping projects

Also as a general message anyone is free to help me in any way they want! With graphics and with infoboxes because I am terrible at info boxes
 
Is "Spartacist" something like communist here? Yannis Varoufakis as head of state would certainly imply something quite far to the left...
Spartacist is a term for a far left politician here but not communist

The term in TTL for something of that sort would be a federationalist (The workers have to form federations to overthrow the patricians and establish a true free working society)

The best comparison in terms of socialism would be along the lines of Denmark although Yannis is a bit further to the left then the average Helot but greater geopolitics make it necessary in a weird sort of way
 

Faeelin

Banned
Spartacist is a term for a far left politician here but not communist

The term in TTL for something of that sort would be a federationalist (The workers have to form federations to overthrow the patricians and establish a true free working society)

... Aren't those helots? The guys who joined together to overthrow the Spartans?
 
... Aren't those helots? The guys who joined together to overthrow the Spartans?
The irony is not lost upon them

But helot is a denomynm here for people of Greek descent in new hellas

And the spartacist republic is the second republic of new Hellas the first being changed after the advent of a new semi parliamentary system
 
South America
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South American Nations

The Republic of New Granada
Population as of 2018:
145,093,261

The Republican federation of Mapuche Peoples
Population as of 2018
5,049,932.

The Free Peoples Syndicalist Federation of New Hibernia(OTL Patagonia)
Population as of 2018:10,049.432

The Incan Confederacy of Peru-Boliva
Population as of 2018:
60,832,483

Federation of La Plata
Population as of 2018:14,583.234

Peoples Federation of the Rio Grande
Population as of 2018: 19,434,521

The Kingdom of Brazil
Population as of 2018:190,493,532
 
European States
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Europe as of 2018

Die christliche Technik der heiligen teutonischen Völker von Preußen
(The Holy Teutonic peoples christian technate of Prussia) Population as of 2018: 52,934,875

Kingdom of Bavaria
Population as of 2018:28,563,452

Union of English States
Population as of 2018:120,457,324

Republic of Scotland
Population as of 2018:8,950,321

Federation of Eire
Population as of 2018:8,946,293

The Confederacy of Greek states:
56,942,521

The Union of Danubian States
Population as of 2018
48,943,245

Confederacy of Bohemia
Population as of 2018:13,748,321

The Baltic Workers Federation
Population as of 2018:9,423,451

The Kingdom of Turkey
Population as of 2018:58,431,342

The Plurnational State of Transcaucasia
Population as of 2018:17,535,631

The Union of the Netherlands
Population as of 2018:24,653,512

Republic of Kievan Rus
Population as of 2018: 56,234.393

Holy Empire of Russia
Population as of 2018: 120,432,342

The Holy Imperial State of Europa

Population as of 2018:470,689,423



I hope you guys like this

Im going to try and fix the russian border eventually however muscle spasms have been happening to me all day today so it was rough trying to finish this up
 
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The flag of The Holy Teutonic Peoples Christian Technate of Prussia
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The colors on the flag represent respectively

Black representing the dark times that may come upon the Prussian peoples

Green representing the greener pastures ahead and the fertilty of Prussias lands

And yellow representing the eternal hopefulness of the Prussian peoples symbolizing that they can and never will be defeated
The Red gear symbolizing the Prussian peoples duty to advance the cause of science because god wills it!
 
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The colors on the flag represent respectively

Black representing the dark times that may come upon the Prussian peoples

Green representing the greener pastures ahead and the fertilty of Prussias lands

And yellow representing the eternal hopefulness of the Prussian peoples symbolizing that they can and never will be defeated
The Red gear symbolizing the Prussian peoples duty to advance the cause of science because god wills it!
Good choice with the gear! The center looks like a cross, which is fitting!
 
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