I can’t really see why they’d do so, the Nazis were happy to present themselves as ostensibly Christian and as such you got ‘Positive Christianity’ to get over that annoying contradiction between “love one another as I have loved you” and “murder everyone”. The DAR doesn’t really have the same problem given that it’s state athiest. I suppose you might have Christians who follow Christian Socialism or Christian Communism or other forms of left-wing Christianity receiving greater leniency but there’s no real point in promoting something you don’t even pretend to support.
"Our Struggle": What If Hitler Had Been a Communist?
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I can’t really see why they’d do so, the Nazis were happy to present themselves as ostensibly Christian and as such you got ‘Positive Christianity’ to get over that annoying contradiction between “love one another as I have loved you” and “murder everyone”. The DAR doesn’t really have the same problem given that it’s state athiest. I suppose you might have Christians who follow Christian Socialism or Christian Communism or other forms of left-wing Christianity receiving greater leniency but there’s no real point in promoting something you don’t even pretend to support.
Well they can't go full let's kill the Christians, because that could push the Brits and French into intervention, not to mention make getting power in Germany exponentially more difficult. Sure the Catholic Church would never accept it but some Protestant denominations might. It make the transition into power Abit easier if every church in Germany is not shouting from the Rooftops about how evil you are.
Also it occurs to me that France and Britan are going to be more perpared than in OTL,when they reasoned "hey they could be a Bastion aganst Communism" and had rose tinted glasses over how the Germans pervented a Red Takeover. Now with Communists on their doorstep their going to be arming up in a frensy, perhaps intervening aganst the Spanish Republic to pervent a two front war.
I didn’t mention anything about killing Christians wholesale. The DAR might be state athiest but it pays lip service to freedom of religion, churches “shouting from the rooftops” are another matter entirely but that’s veering more towards spoiler territory.
im guessing the offical attitude is: "let those old men and women have their superstions as long as they arent trying to spread their disease to the true German people" later on when its war time, the attitude goes to "Okay lets kill the potenial christian subversives now.
Christians tend to be pacifists, or dovish at the very least. I don’t see why “Christian subversives” be a priority when the war breaks out.
I could see the Germans going after Jehovah's Witnesses, due to their refusal to serve on the military or pledge allegiance to the state.
Well, it dosent have to be real it could just be paranioa setting in on them, maybe abetted by the Pope saying something condeming Communism,it could also just be them saying "Okay folks, were already at war now so need to play pertend for the decadant imperialists"
also as long as were on the topic of Christians in the Communist Germany, Could this guy feature later on:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich_Bonhoeffer just read a book about him and his life journy and it was bloddy awesome.
That is possible. Or they’d be put into non-combat roles like other conscientious objectors. I haven’t put a great of thought into how the DAR would deal with them as of yet.
Back into spoiler territory but despite Pius’ anti-communism I cant see him going full-on in support of the Allied cause, or the DAR really caring about what the “decadent imperialists” think beforehand.
theyd care because they would not to get into a war before their ready, which purging the christians in Germany, in front of the whole western world, would certainly accomplish.He dosent have to go full on anti communist but he could say something that the Commies see as a implied slight.
In a totalitarian state, the concept of not being willing to sacrifice all for the state because of a pre-existing belief system is too dangerous to ignore. If anything, pacifism is a threat.
I wonder if the DAR will get the bomb (and if they do, before the Anglo-Americans). The Germans had lots of good physicists and certainly plenty who might sympathetic to communism but I'm not sure how comfortable, on the whole, they would be with the new regime - a lot of them were middle class and the German science movement was more conservative back then, in some ways. And Hitler might pay more attention to the grounds fighting than more theoretically minded stuff as well.
This is assuming they aren't purged or flee in any civil war or anything.
It's the same issue with the Reichswehr officer corps I guess - The Red has kept a lid on what happens to the superb German officer class, given many of them disliked communism but were incredibly important for Germany's success OTL.
I await with baited breath!
This is assuming they aren't purged or flee in any civil war or anything.
It's the same issue with the Reichswehr officer corps I guess - The Red has kept a lid on what happens to the superb German officer class, given many of them disliked communism but were incredibly important for Germany's success OTL.
I await with baited breath!
Well when it came down to it, the Soviet Union ended up patronizing the Orthodox Church in WWII to get more people to fight Germany. If it's a war of survival, then I bet this Hitler would rather be practical than go full Cultural Revolution during a war.
Well Hitler committed a genocide aganst the Jewish people when he should of been spending the cash on trying to fight off the massive beheamoth that is Russia. What's to stop him from putting Ideolgy over commonsense in this tl?
Because this is a different, far more competent Hitler. He's shown a lot of practicality and flexibility in this TL.
Yeah. I suspect he would, while being somewhat anti-clerical to satisfy his supporters, at least be ambivalent to Christianity.
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Well, the different between this Hitler and OTL Hitler is that OTL Hitler, despite whining about his oppression, was coddled by the German establishment.
Hitler isn't being coddled, which means he may need to develop the skills to be a leader.
On the other hand, Mao may have been a competent militant, but he was shitty at everything. So being a competent usurper does not equal competence in governance.