However that ignores the butterflies on whatever would hinder or deny English colonization entirely. My thought is the War of Roses goes/end differently or the reign of Henry VIII goes even worse. The civil wars of England over religion or succession are much worse, Henry VIII either never establishes the Royal Navy, or too much funds for the RN are spent waging civil wars. England never becomes the naval power, etc. So my thought would be a POD in the early 1500's. Now I'm just doing a quick scenario I thought up in twenty minutes. I'm making huge generalizations.