Return of Horrible Educational Maps

The Professor

The Professor

TedBacon12 said:
Found this monstrosity in my so-called 'college-level textbook':
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Ignoring the rivers being confused with borders I see 4 errors:
German-Russian border (looks a bit like part of Hungary got transposed north?)
AH-Russian border
AH-Italian border (this one easy to get wrong if forgetting Italy got some AH land for switching sides)
AH-Serbian border
 
Albidoom

Albidoom

The Professor said:
Ignoring the rivers being confused with borders I see 4 errors:
German-Russian border (looks a bit like part of Hungary got transposed north?)
AH-Russian border
AH-Italian border (this one easy to get wrong if forgetting Italy got some AH land for switching sides)
AH-Serbian border
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Also Bulgarian-Serbian border seems a bit off.
And Alsace-Lorraine...

But not only the borders, We have Belgrade not being at the Danube and Brussels at the Franco-Belgian border.
 
Thesaurus Rex

Thesaurus Rex

leecannon_ said:
College level courses have awful textbook maps
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That's right, kiddos: by 1500 alone the hyperexpansionist empire of the Haudenosaunee (oh, it's a chiefdom, my bad) extended from the conquered Neutral Confederacy to the west (not so neutral now, huh?) to the subjugated paramountcies of the Chesapeake Bay. Also, no chiefdoms or stratified, ranked societies of any kind existed in the middle bit of the Eastern Seaboard. Or anywhere in the Caribbean (sorry, Agueybana). Or the non-Maya bits of Central America. Or the west coast of Mexico; in fact, nobody even farmed there. Everyone knows maize and beans were simply teleported to Oasisamerica (you thought sipapus were ceremonial? HA!). And I guess the Timucua and Calusa count as Mississippian.

Also I really hope we're not supposed to interpret the entire red area in Mexico as "Aztec Empire"...
 
Miner

Miner

Thesaurus Rex said:
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That's right, kiddos: by 1500 alone the hyperexpansionist empire of the Haudenosaunee (oh, it's a chiefdom, my bad) extended from the conquered Neutral Confederacy to the west (not so neutral now, huh?) to the subjugated paramountcies of the Chesapeake Bay. Also, no chiefdoms or stratified, ranked societies of any kind existed in the middle bit of the Eastern Seaboard. Or anywhere in the Caribbean (sorry, Agueybana). Or the non-Maya bits of Central America. Or the west coast of Mexico; in fact, nobody even farmed there. Everyone knows maize and beans were simply teleported to Oasisamerica (you thought sipapus were ceremonial? HA!). And I guess the Timucua and Calusa count as Mississippian.

Also I really hope we're not supposed to interpret the entire red area in Mexico as "Aztec Empire"...
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WTF? How did Strayer manage to screw that up?
 
Thesaurus Rex

Thesaurus Rex

Miner said:
WTF? How did Strayer manage to screw that up?
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Ah, I see you're familiar with the source material.

I think it's just part of the larger curse that affects the proper representation of Native American history. Not even world historians, it seems, are safe.

At least he and Nelson actually included the Pueblo and Mississippians in some fashion. I can't even count how many maps I've seen just have the 'Big Three' of American civilizations.
 

Barry Bull

Donor
Thesaurus Rex said:
Ah, I see you're familiar with the source material.

I think it's just part of the larger curse that affects the proper representation of Native American history. Not even world historians, it seems, are safe.

At least he and Nelson actually included the Pueblo and Mississippians in some fashion. I can't even count how many maps I've seen just have the 'Big Three' of American civilizations.
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The representation may be limited intentionally to avoid cluttering up the map and scaring/ boring/ confusing the students.
 
Thesaurus Rex

Thesaurus Rex

Barry Bull said:
The representation may be limited intentionally to avoid cluttering up the map and scaring/ boring/ confusing the students.
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I mean it's not necessarily a political map, so the only things that would change would be to stretch this blob here, that blob there, and maybe make one or two. And that doesn't account for the Ultra-Quois with the janked up borders.

In any case, if it were a fully detailed map and the students got scared, God help them when they turn the page to the Old World.
 
ST15RM

ST15RM

Banned
Thesaurus Rex said:
Ah, I see you're familiar with the source material.

I think it's just part of the larger curse that affects the proper representation of Native American history. Not even world historians, it seems, are safe.

At least he and Nelson actually included the Pueblo and Mississippians in some fashion. I can't even count how many maps I've seen just have the 'Big Three' of American civilizations.
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Well actually, textbooks’ material are often taken from online sources like Wikipedia, and the professor or whoever never writes a thing. So...
 
Albidoom

Albidoom

Somewhereovertherainbow said:
It looks so ugly but for some reason yet again so well placed. I don't know I guess my mind is just presuming it "blends in" with the other borders
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naraht said:
These borders aren't even *that* insane as a result of a war between the Poles and the Soviets in 1939/1940 with the Germans in *full*alliance with the Poles. Eliminate "Hainan" and it is definitely doable.
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Hah, yes, when I stumbled across that map, with a first quick glance I mentally filed it as just a badly drawn interwar Poland map. Only when I noticed that Hainan-shaped enclave in Romania I got suspicious and then traced those borders more consciously and finally recognized that shape.

Anyways, back on topic. The following map was actually meant to be educational, which in turn just increases the horrible wrongness:

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