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Good old-fashioned Argiewank, set in the present day of the one timeline I'm doing with @kissatytto.
Depending on the POD, could be quite a few Lusophones in the north?
Yeah, the idea is that Argentina supported a republican/abolitionist faction in a Brazillian civil war (against the ruling slaveholding monarchists) and took Rio Grande do Sul as its pound of flesh. Of course, there has been a good deal of settlement by Hispanophones, but Lusophones are still definitely a significant presence and both Puerto Alegre and San Lorenzo retain Portuguese as a language of government alongside Spanish.Depending on the POD, could be quite a few Lusophones in the north?
When is the POD? It must be really far back, otherwise renaming Entre Ríos as Uruguay wouldn't make sense. And I am from the province. Also if you are going to rename Entre Ríos, then other provinces would probably have to be renamed too, since the likelihood of the same names appearing like they did in OTL would go down. Otherwise, my Argentinian Patriotism likes it!View attachment 391629
Good old-fashioned Argiewank, set in the present day of the one timeline I'm doing with @kissatytto. Notably, the "Conquest of the Desert" ITTL was a lot more... subdued (that is, not all-out genocidal), and so indigenous languages and cultures survive in significantly greater strength than IOTL. The Malvinas were bought from the UK in the 1950s in exchange for a tidy sum and the dropping of claims on the South Georgia and South Sandwich islands, and remain mostly Anglophone.
Thanks! Personally, I disagree with the idea that history moves ever forward with “progress,” but I don’t think stagnation on this level is plausible. Rather, trends will halt, reverse, and new ones will take their place.
I’d love to see your take on a future that obeys “your rules” on historiography.
I actually think it’s rather depressing, if only because nuclear wars and Mad Maxery is at the very least more interesting and cinematic.
They’re “conservative” in the most literal sense: they want to conserve what they have, whether that be material resources or existing cultural practices. Part of the exercise is a (counter?)revolution of political norms: 22nd century politics does not line up neatly with 21st century politics because the concerns and their entire philosophical viewpoint is different.
The POD is in 1802, which I admit is probably not far enough back to justify reorganizing all the provinces, but like..... Argentine provinces IOTL look like ass, yannow? As for Entre Ríos, I figured renaming the province after the Uruguay river (which it borders) would just be a fun kind of historical irony sort of thing, but I could certainly change it back. I feel pretty comfortable, though, with many of the other provinces keeping their names, as the majority of them are after their capital cities, which I haven't changed. Provinces that weren't around at Argentine independence I did change: note Río Negro (in OTL Uruguay, rather than Patagonia), all of the Gran Chaco provinces, and all of the Patagonian provinces save Chubut and Neuquén (which were named after rivers, themselves with etymologies in indigenous languages, so I figured keeping the names was fine). Thanks for the feedback!When is the POD? It must be really far back, otherwise renaming Entre Ríos as Uruguay wouldn't make sense. And I am from the province. Also if you are going to rename Entre Ríos, then other provinces would probably have to be renamed too, since the likelihood of the same names appearing like they did in OTL would go down. Otherwise, my Argentinian Patriotism likes it!
An impressive thought experiment, although I suspect the ol' nation-state still has a lot of life in it.
Mhm, it's been around about as long as civilisation after all. (Ancient Egypt seemed to have the concept pretty down for thousands of years, the same with ancient Rome or China?)
Well that's... depressing, I suppose?
This is absolutely stunning. You've taken a lot of the premises I actually consider to be accurate (e.g. history isn't an unending upward march; our modern world may just be a brief exception rather than 'the final station'; long-established attitudes will have much more staying power than new-fangled trends) -- but you've put a completely different soin on it than I would have. Truly exceptional!
@Crying may think it's depressing, but I think we should be rather lucky to arrive upon a future that overcomes a lot of the oncoming troubles so capably. We could do far, far worse than this.
(The talk of rather conservative sentiments ruling across the board may be misleading here: after all, the write-up indicates that pretty much everyone is on board with reproductive rights, marriage freedom, drug legalisation, green politics, transgender rights etc. etc. ...so how bad are these conservatives, really? It seems to me that this whole scenario describes a world that has finallt dismissed the notion of "progress for the sake of progress", and has instead settled into a mindset stressing localism and continuity. That strikes me as the healthiest possible response to the crises and problems described in the write-up.)
This is really well done!
@rvbomally - your map is awesome, the write up is awesome, and you are awesome.
Now, can you please stop using that tiny font? It's hard to read at times.
Hey, don't forget me
That's what I told him too, but it's not a true rvbomally map if it's readable, so the font must stay!
The nation-state isn't dead, it's just no longer the "default".
Thank you kindly. This is my sorta of WIP for the MotF
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Like the style of this.
Human Siren/Abyssal hybrids were mostly mindless zombie with energy armcannons intended as cannon fodders. There are those who still retain their humanity but only 2.8% were considered 'sane'. Also Abysssals-Sirens are like zerg hiveminds that's totally hostile to humans, they only use the native-born cults for their own gain but that's it.
Don't look ask him for why shipgirls exist; that's the work of the devs behind Azur Lane, of which is a rival to Kancolle, which also has a similar "shipgirl" theme. Frankly I don't care for both franchises (though some of Kancolle's gals are cute and attractive, can't say the same about AL), though it wouldn't hurt to have them represented in the West (then again there was a PSV Kancolle game that wrongly had its support cut off).What do the Symbiotes look like? Like the humanized versions or the monstrous ones? How many hybrids are there, cause I would assume there would be many given their attacks, and what would the hybrids look like. Would the sane ones be persecuted, or accepted? Also why 2.8%. Why didn't we use nukes, or bio-weapons? Why would shipgirls be allowed to exist, cause that would definitely cause a MASSIVE backlash for being too similar to the Nazi experiments involving lunatic Mengele, and Unit 731 where humans were called 'logs'. Whoever came up with the idea and made them would probably have themselves executed by firing squad for turning humans into weapons.