Introduction
This thread is for discussing the Vandal Kingdom and its fate. Why it the kingdoms history became what it was in OTL. Aswell as ATL Vandal kingdom history and the possibilities of the kingdom. You can ask questions, answear questions, propose solutions and explain OTL as you wish.
Questions
1. What might a Vandal kingdom where the Vandals convert to nicean orthodoxy turn out?
2. Where could the Vandal kindom have expanded? What is most likely and why. Also why would the Vandal kingdom not expand(if this is what you believe or how you understand the situation).
3. Could the Vandal kingdom facilitate Vandalisation similar to the Turkification of Anatolia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkification
4. Could the Vandal kingdom under Gelimer defeat the Byzantine invasion? How could it have happened? Why would it not happen?
5. Could the Vandal kingdom expand it's rule in the Maghreb?
6. How could the Vandals leave more of legacy after losing their kingdom?
7. Could the Vandalic kingdom or state adopt a form of govornance which may increase its lifespan and strength? How might such a new form of govornance be adopted, and what would spur the Vandals into adopting this system?
8. What was the population of the Vandals(the horde not the kingdom)? How could this population be increases? How quickly could this population be increased?
9. What was the tie between the Vandals and the Alans? How did they evolve togheter after arriving in North Africa?
10. Could the Vandals following the failed joint WRE(western roman empire) and ERE(eastern roman empire) invasion of the Vandal kingdom have taken controll of shipping in the mediterranen?
11. Could the Vandals have evolved an intellectual culture? Why should they? Why did they not?Why did they? How might a Vandal intellecutal culture look like?
Links(that you can dig into):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_Kingdom
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...viving-vandal-presence-in-north-africa.34570/
http://www.medievalists.net/2009/01/the-role-of-arianism-in-the-vandal-kingdom/
http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/regents/italy/vandals.htm
https://theconversation.com/vandals-took-the-handles-but-what-else-did-they-do-27794
https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Geiseric.html
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/9781444318074
(Tries to put the Vandals into a better light)
https://www.thelocal.de/20091023/22779 (Exhibition explores Vandal legacy)
https://cedar.wwu.edu/wwuet/244/ (Reign of heretics: Arianism and political power in the Vandal and Ostrogothic kingdoms)
https://www.dhi.ac.uk/sites/clericalexile/visualisations/poster-on-vandal-exile/ (Poster on Vandal Exile)
https://journals.openedition.org/lettre-cdf/2028 (The Vandals in North Africa – Heirs or Precipitators of the Decline of the Romanitas?)
http://www.academia.edu/1799924/The_Frexes_Late_Roman_Barbarians_in_the_Shadow_of_the_Vandal_Kingdom (The Frexes: Late Roman Barbarians in the Shadow of the Vandal Kingdom)
http://www.gotische-kriegergruppen.phil.fau.de/Berndt-Steinacher_Minting.pdf (Minting in Vandal North Africa: coins of the Vandal period in the Coin Cabinet of Vienna’s Kunsthistorisches Museum)
https://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1058&context=phr (In Barbarian Times: State Formation and Land Redistribution in Ostrogothic Italy and Vandal North Africa)
http://rex-regum.blogspot.no/2011/11/arius-and-end-of-vandal-kingdom.html
https://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520295957 (Being Christian in Vandal Africa: The Politics of Orthodoxy in the Post-Imperial West)
http://www.medievalists.net/tag/vandals/
http://www.medievalists.net/2013/04/settlement-and-taxes-the-vandals-in-north-africa/
https://www.duo.uio.no/bitstream/handle/10852/42486/master_hindrum.pdf?sequence=1 (Political Culture of Ostrogothic Italy in a Numismatic Perspective)
https://issuu.com/johnklima/docs/the_vandals
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistori...hen_the_vandals_controlled_north_africa_were/
http://www.razib.com/wordpress/?cat=1958
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/01/genes-and-rex-wandalorum-et-alanorum/#.WtfAGuqsbIU
https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/e/9781351876117/chapters/10.4324/9781315235127-12 (The Settlement of the Vandals in North Africa)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Vitensis
http://www.academia.edu/6532996/_Un...Antique_North_Africa_London_Ashgate_2004_1-29
http://web.randolphcollege.edu/summer/pdf/sample_proposal_3.pdf (A Cemetery of Vandalic date at Carthage)
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/ancient/procopius-vandals.asp (Procopius of Caesarea: Gaiseric & The Vandal Conquest of North Africa, 406 - 477 CE)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo
This thread is for discussing the Vandal Kingdom and its fate. Why it the kingdoms history became what it was in OTL. Aswell as ATL Vandal kingdom history and the possibilities of the kingdom. You can ask questions, answear questions, propose solutions and explain OTL as you wish.
Questions
1. What might a Vandal kingdom where the Vandals convert to nicean orthodoxy turn out?
2. Where could the Vandal kindom have expanded? What is most likely and why. Also why would the Vandal kingdom not expand(if this is what you believe or how you understand the situation).
3. Could the Vandal kingdom facilitate Vandalisation similar to the Turkification of Anatolia?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkification
4. Could the Vandal kingdom under Gelimer defeat the Byzantine invasion? How could it have happened? Why would it not happen?
5. Could the Vandal kingdom expand it's rule in the Maghreb?
6. How could the Vandals leave more of legacy after losing their kingdom?
7. Could the Vandalic kingdom or state adopt a form of govornance which may increase its lifespan and strength? How might such a new form of govornance be adopted, and what would spur the Vandals into adopting this system?
8. What was the population of the Vandals(the horde not the kingdom)? How could this population be increases? How quickly could this population be increased?
9. What was the tie between the Vandals and the Alans? How did they evolve togheter after arriving in North Africa?
10. Could the Vandals following the failed joint WRE(western roman empire) and ERE(eastern roman empire) invasion of the Vandal kingdom have taken controll of shipping in the mediterranen?
11. Could the Vandals have evolved an intellectual culture? Why should they? Why did they not?Why did they? How might a Vandal intellecutal culture look like?
Links(that you can dig into):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_Kingdom
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...viving-vandal-presence-in-north-africa.34570/
http://www.medievalists.net/2009/01/the-role-of-arianism-in-the-vandal-kingdom/
http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/regents/italy/vandals.htm
https://theconversation.com/vandals-took-the-handles-but-what-else-did-they-do-27794
https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Geiseric.html
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/9781444318074
https://www.thelocal.de/20091023/22779 (Exhibition explores Vandal legacy)
https://cedar.wwu.edu/wwuet/244/ (Reign of heretics: Arianism and political power in the Vandal and Ostrogothic kingdoms)
https://www.dhi.ac.uk/sites/clericalexile/visualisations/poster-on-vandal-exile/ (Poster on Vandal Exile)
https://journals.openedition.org/lettre-cdf/2028 (The Vandals in North Africa – Heirs or Precipitators of the Decline of the Romanitas?)
http://www.academia.edu/1799924/The_Frexes_Late_Roman_Barbarians_in_the_Shadow_of_the_Vandal_Kingdom (The Frexes: Late Roman Barbarians in the Shadow of the Vandal Kingdom)
http://www.gotische-kriegergruppen.phil.fau.de/Berndt-Steinacher_Minting.pdf (Minting in Vandal North Africa: coins of the Vandal period in the Coin Cabinet of Vienna’s Kunsthistorisches Museum)
https://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1058&context=phr (In Barbarian Times: State Formation and Land Redistribution in Ostrogothic Italy and Vandal North Africa)
http://rex-regum.blogspot.no/2011/11/arius-and-end-of-vandal-kingdom.html
https://www.ucpress.edu/book.php?isbn=9780520295957 (Being Christian in Vandal Africa: The Politics of Orthodoxy in the Post-Imperial West)
http://www.medievalists.net/tag/vandals/
http://www.medievalists.net/2013/04/settlement-and-taxes-the-vandals-in-north-africa/
https://www.duo.uio.no/bitstream/handle/10852/42486/master_hindrum.pdf?sequence=1 (Political Culture of Ostrogothic Italy in a Numismatic Perspective)
https://issuu.com/johnklima/docs/the_vandals
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistori...hen_the_vandals_controlled_north_africa_were/
http://www.razib.com/wordpress/?cat=1958
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/01/genes-and-rex-wandalorum-et-alanorum/#.WtfAGuqsbIU
https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/e/9781351876117/chapters/10.4324/9781315235127-12 (The Settlement of the Vandals in North Africa)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Vitensis
http://www.academia.edu/6532996/_Un...Antique_North_Africa_London_Ashgate_2004_1-29
http://web.randolphcollege.edu/summer/pdf/sample_proposal_3.pdf (A Cemetery of Vandalic date at Carthage)
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/ancient/procopius-vandals.asp (Procopius of Caesarea: Gaiseric & The Vandal Conquest of North Africa, 406 - 477 CE)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo
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