The Universal Religious Colour Scheme (TURCS without Caicos)

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    • Tomislav Addai

    Tomislav Addai

    will arrive in due time.
    For now, The Pagans of the World, Divide work in progress.
    Dunno if I should give each of the North American mythologies a colour though. Haven´t touched Africa yet
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mytho...cas#Algonquian_(northeastern_US,_Great_Lakes)

    My Excel table showing colours, so that I dont duplicate them
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    Showing the HLS: Hue being the horizontal axis, Saturation the vertical, and lightness being written behind the colour.
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    So at least some Europe, Northern Asia and the New world
     
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    • Tomislav Addai

    Tomislav Addai

    SaveAtlacamani said:
    Would be very helpful, e.g. in an Islamwank scenario.
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    There are literally tons of them. My table should allow me to represent a total of 2601 denominations. I see quite a lot of it filled without touching Christianity, or Asia, but there is still quite a few colours in the green muslim area.

    I would pick perhaps three for now, but which ones?
     
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    Pagans of the World Divide, Description
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    • Tomislav Addai

    Tomislav Addai

    DRUIDRY
    Key deities: Teuthates, Cernunnos, Lugus
    Key locations: Stonehenge, Anglesey,Lyon
    Liturgical language:Gaulish, Brythonic, Gaelic
    ZAMOLXIAN
    Key deities: Zamolxis
    Key locations: Sarmizegethusa
    Liturgical language:Dacian
    RODNOVERY
    Key deities: Perun
    Key locations: Arkona,Novgorod, Kiev
    Liturgical language:Old Slavic
     
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    • And Yet Another Schism, Description
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    • Tomislav Addai

    Tomislav Addai

    Gentile Christianity
    Separated from: main branch of Christianity, founded by Paul
    Key locations: Antioch, Ephesus, Jerusalem, Rome, Damascus
    Liturgical language: Koiné Greek, Aramaic
    Authority: Apostles, Patriarch of Antioch, Patriarch of Rome
    Jewish Christianity
    Separated from: Judaism
    Key locations: Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth
    Liturgical language: Palestinian Aramaic
    Authority: Patriarch of Jerusalem
    Samaritan Christianity
    Separated from: Samaritanism
    Key locations: Gerizim, Capernaum, Jerusalem
    Liturgical language: Samaritan Aramaic
    Authority:
    Valentinian
    Separated from: Gentile Christianity, Gnosticism
    Key locations: Alexandria, Rome, Cyprus
    Liturgical language:
    Authority: Church of Aeons
    Appollinarian
    Separated from: Gentile Christianity
    Key locations: Antioch, Laodicea (Lattakia), Jerusalem, Rome
    Liturgical language: Koiné Greek
    Authority: Appollinarian Congregation
    Patripassian
    Separated from: Gentile Christianity
    Key locations:
    Liturgical language:
    Authority: Patripassian Patriarchy
    Donatism
    Separated from: Gentile Christianity
    Key locations: Carthage, Rome, Jerusalem
    Liturgical language: Latin, African, Punic, Berber
    Authority: Patriarch of Carthage
    Priscillianist
    Separated from: Gentile Christianity
    Key locations: Ávila, Toledo, Rome, Jerusalem
    Liturgical language: Latin, Early Spanish
    Authority:Bishop of Ávila
    Arianism
    Separated from: Gentile Christianity at Council of Niceae
    Key locations: Alexandria,Sirmium, Milan, Ceasarea, Durosotrum
    Liturgical language: Coptic, Gothic, Koiné Greek
    Authority: Arian Papacy
    Ebionites
    Separated from: Jewish Christianity
    Key locations:Jerusalem, Damascus, Sinai, Dhofar, Antioch
    Liturgical language: Palestinian Aramaic, Hejazi Arabic
    Authority: Ebionite Church (Patriarchate of Jerusalem)
    Pelagian
    Separated from: Gentile Christianity
    Key locations: Iona, Landisfarne, Dyfed, Inse Gall, Ormond, Canterbury
    Liturgical language: Brythonic, Gaelic, Britannian
    Authority: Pelagian Bishop, Bishop of Iona
    Nicene
    Separated from: Gentile Christianity at Council of Niceae
    Key locations: Rome, Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem, Seleucia-Ctesiphon
    Liturgical language: Koiné Greek, Aramaic, Coptic, Latin
    Authority: The Patriarchates of Rome, Antioch, Alexandria and Seleucia-Ctesiphon
    Nestorian
    Separated from: Nicene at Ephesus and Chalcedon
    Key locations: Seleucia-Ctesiphon, Assur, Edessa, Jerusalem, Antioch, Rayy,Merv, Mahoyadapuram
    Liturgical language: Syriac, (Sogdian)
    Authority: Patriarch of the East (Seleucia-Ctesiphon)
    Chalcedonian
    Separated from: Nicene at Chalcedon
    Key locations: Roma, Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem
    Liturgical language: Latin, Koiné Greek,
    Authority: The Pentarchy
    Myaphisite
    Separated from:Nicene
    Key locations: Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem, Axum, Ghazali (Echmidzin)
    Liturgical language: Coptic, Syriac, Armenian, Ge´ez
    Authority: Coptic Pope, Patriarch of Antioch
    Monotheletism
    Separated from: Chalcedonian, 3rd Constantinople council
    Key locations: Antioch, Jerusalem, Bkerke
    Liturgical language: Western Aramaic
    Authority: Maronite Patriarch
    Catholicism
    Separated from: Chalcedonian, by the Great Schism
    Key locations: Rome, Santiago, Avignon, Hippo, Jerusalem, Cologne
    Liturgical language: Latin
    Authority: Pope in Rome
    Fraticelli
    Separated from: Catholicism
    Key locations: Rome, Assissi, ...
    Liturgical language: Latin
    Authority: Fraticelli Pope
    Cathars
    Separated from: Catholicism, under influence of Bogomilism
    Key locations: Albi, Montségur, Carcassonne, Béziers
    Liturgical language: Occita
    Authority: Cathar papa(s)
    Waldensians
    Separated from: Catholicism, by Peter Waldo
    Key locations: Lyons, Susa
    Liturgical language: Franco-Provencal
    Authority: Majoralis omnium
    Lollardy
    Separated from: Catholicism, by John Wycliffe
    Key locations: Oxford, Canterbury, York, Lincoln
    Liturgical language: English
    Authority: ?
    Orthodoxy
    Separated from: Chalcedonian, by the Great Schism
    Key locations: Constantinople, Mt. Athos, Ephesus, Antioch ,Jerusalem
    Liturgical language: Greek, later Georgian and Old Church Slavonic as well
    Authority: Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, patriarchs in Antioch, Alexandria, Jerusalem, later Kiev, Mtsketa and Ohrid
    Paulician
    Separated from: Orthodox
    Key locations: Samosata, Kibossa, Amamalis, Tephrike
    Liturgical language: Greek, late Anatolian
    Authority: Paulician Patriarchate
    Bogomilism
    Separated from: Paulician
    Key locations: Ohrid, Pliska, Visoko,Vidin
    Liturgical language: Old Church Slavonic
    Authority: ?
    Iconoclast
    Separated from: Orthodox
    Key locations:Constantinople, Ephesus, Mt. Athos,Antioch ,Jerusalem
    Liturgical language: Greek
    Authority: (iconoclast) Ecumenical Patriarch
    Maronites
    Separated from: possibly successor to Monothelites
    Key locations: Bkerke, Antioch, Tripoli, Jerusalem
    Liturgical language: Syriac
    Authority: Maronite Patriarch (claimant to Antioch)
    Coptic Orthodox Church
    Separated from: part of Myaphyiste communion
    Key locations: Alexandria, Cairo, Minya, Qasr Ibrim, Ghazali, Axum
    Liturgical language: Coptic
    Authority: Coptic Pope of Alexandria
    Syriac Jacobite Church
    Separated from: part of Myaphysite communion
    Key locations: Antioch, Mor Hananoyo Monastery, Edessa, Jerusalem, Tagrit (Tikrit) , Nisibis
    Liturgical language: Syriac
    Authority: Syriac Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch, maphrian of Tagrit
    Armenian Apostolic Church
    Separated from: part of Mayphysite communion, previously subject to Antioch
    Key locations: Dwin, Echmiadzin, Sis, Jerusalem
    Liturgical language: Armenian
    Authority: Catholicos of Armenia, Catholicos of Cilicia, (Armenian)Patriarch of Jerusalem, (Armenian ) Patriarch of Cosntantinople
    Church of the East
    Separated from: Nicene at Ephesus and Chalcedon
    Key locations: Seleucia-Ctesiphon, Assur, Edessa, Jerusalem, Antioch, Rayy,Merv, Mahoyadapuram
    Liturgical language: Syriac, (Sogdian)
    Authority: Patriarch of the East (Seleucia-Ctesiphon)
     
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    • water123

    water123

    A minor thing: Maronites and Monothelites have little in common, so they wouldn't have the same patriarch
     
    water123

    water123

    You are missing a few of the big heresies upon further inspextion:
    Pneumatomachians/Macedonians: founded by Macedonius, believed the Holy Spirit was created by the Father and the Son and was therefore subservient to them.

    Origenism: founded by Origen, followers or Origen's unorthodox views such as the salvation of all souls.

    Hyper-Arianism: Make no mistake, this sect was quite distinct from the Arians. While the followers of Arius believed that Christ was created by God the Father and was thus subservient to God the Father but was still made of the same essence as God the Father, hyper-Arians believed that Christ was created with a lesser essence, thus marking themselves as a position between classical Arianism and adoptionism.

    Antinomians: believed they no longer had to follow any of the mosaic laws after Christ. Infamous for their hedonism.

    Agonistici/Circumcellians: Military order of the Donatists that prized martyrdom above all else and even begged for it. Enforced the Donatists will on the populace of Donatists possessions.
     
    Tomislav Addai

    Tomislav Addai

    Aqua817 said:
    You are missing a few of the big heresies upon further inspextion:
    Pneumatomachians/Macedonians: founded by Macedonius, believed the Holy Spirit was created by the Father and the Son and was therefore subservient to them.

    Origenism: founded by Origen, followers or Origen's unorthodox views such as the salvation of all souls.

    Hyper-Arianism: Make no mistake, this sect was quite distinct from the Arians. While the followers of Arius believed that Christ was created by God the Father and was thus subservient to God the Father but was still made of the same essence as God the Father, hyper-Arians believed that Christ was created with a lesser essence, thus marking themselves as a position between classical Arianism and adoptionism.

    Antinomians: believed they no longer had to follow any of the mosaic laws after Christ. Infamous for their hedonism.

    Agonistici/Circumcellians: Military order of the Donatists that prized martyrdom above all else and even begged for it. Enforced the Donatists will on the populace of Donatists possessions.
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    Pneumatomachians: will be included , therefore
    Origenism: could be included as well
    Hyper-Arian :are theycso distinct from Arianism to deserve a separate colour? Also what about Adoptionism?
    Antinomians: wait isn't it already divided into Marcionism and Nicolaotans? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism
    Circumcellians: agreed they will be the Military Order for the Donatists. Should I also include military orders for other denominations, crossposted from CK2:
    https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Holy_orders, such as Holy Sepulchre, Saint Anthony and Saint Addai?
     
    water123

    water123

    Tomislav Addai said:
    Pneumatomachians: will be included , therefore
    Origenism: could be included as well
    Hyper-Arian :are theycso distinct from Arianism to deserve a separate colour? Also what about Adoptionism?
    Antinomians: wait isn't it already divided into Marcionism and Nicolaotans? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism
    Circumcellians: agreed they will be the Military Order for the Donatists. Should I also include military orders for other denominations, crossposted from CK2:
    https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Holy_orders, such as Holy Sepulchre, Saint Anthony and Saint Addai?
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    They are. In fact, I messed up, the true name of the Hyper-Arian heresy is Anomoeanism, and Aetius of Antioch and Arius' successors actually had a good bit of beef between each other.

    Marcionism from what I understand is far more important for it's rather alien quasi-Gnosticism that could have created an entirely different Christianity than it's antinomianism, i.e. it was more antisemitic than antinomian. The Nicolatians do fall under this, but considering that there were various accusations of Antinomianism throughout the middle ages, it is not implausible for there to be a "resurgent Antinomianist" movement.

    The problem with the military orders from CKII is that they are honestly rather fictional. The Order of the Holy Sepulchre was a Catholic holy order. The closest thing the Orthodox had to an international Orthodox holy order was the (awesomely-named) Order of the Dragon, and even then it was more ecumenical than Orthodox. Arguably, this is because of the close synergy of church and state in the Eastern Roman empire resulting in the Eastern Roman Imperial army being the Orthodox holy order, but that is subjective. The Oriental Orthodox communion overall did not have any military order. This is the same with the Church of the East (AKA the Nestorian Church). Honestly, I'd just have "Exotic holy order color 1, 2, 3, etc"

    If you need help thinking of fictional heresies, I could help too.

    EDIT: One last heresy that is worth mentioning is the Angelicii, or Angel Worshipers. While they didn't get too far IRL, the heresy has potential to crop up throughout the middle ages, especially if it breaks from a group that rejects, say, the Book of Revelation.
     
    Tomislav Addai

    Tomislav Addai

    Aqua817 said:
    They are. In fact, I messed up, the true name of the Hyper-Arian heresy is Anomoeanism, and Aetius of Antioch and Arius' successors actually had a good bit of beef between each other.

    Marcionism from what I understand is far more important for it's rather alien quasi-Gnosticism that could have created an entirely different Christianity than it's antinomianism, i.e. it was more antisemitic than antinomian. The Nicolatians do fall under this, but considering that there were various accusations of Antinomianism throughout the middle ages, it is not implausible for there to be a "resurgent Antinomianist" movement.

    The problem with the military orders from CKII is that they are honestly rather fictional. The Order of the Holy Sepulchre was a Catholic holy order. The closest thing the Orthodox had to an international Orthodox holy order was the (awesomely-named) Order of the Dragon, and even then it was more ecumenical than Orthodox. Arguably, this is because of the close synergy of church and state in the Eastern Roman empire resulting in the Eastern Roman Imperial army being the Orthodox holy order, but that is subjective. The Oriental Orthodox communion overall did not have any military order. This is the same with the Church of the East (AKA the Nestorian Church). Honestly, I'd just have "Exotic holy order color 1, 2, 3, etc"
    If you need help thinking of fictional heresies, I could help too.

    EDIT: One last heresy that is worth mentioning is the Angelicii, or Angel Worshipers. While they didn't get too far IRL, the heresy has potential to crop up throughout the middle ages, especially if it breaks from a group that rejects, say, the Book of Revelation.
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    What I understand from the wikipedia it says that anomianism means that a group intentionally rejects any socila, moral or religious norms, be it of whatever denomination. There were some movements in early Christianity who rejected these norms (whom I mentioned), and then some Lutherans, Calvinists, and Quakers rejected the norms However, I fail to see Antinomianism as a unfied movement with some people openly identifiying with Antinomianism as a denomination.

    Angelici, sounds similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yazdânism.
    Fictional sects : could be added, but the real ones will have to get colour first.
    Regarding the names of non-Catholic military orders, I would just write into the key:
    Orthodox mil. order (e.g. Brotherhood of the holy Sepulchre/ Order of the Dragon)
    Myaphysite mil. order (e.g. Knights of St. Anthony)
     
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