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Political-compass based map with a Navajo Nationwank. And everyone but the Navajo Nation is dystopian.

Green faction: Libertarian leftists. This includes everything from Hindu and Buddhist new age cult communes to areas run by raving bands of antifa thugs and vigilantes. The largest commune that they control is Seattle, although they've begun a terror insurgency in Vancouver. An eastern expansion area (the Jackson Hole Territory) is being cleansed of right-wing presence.

Red faction: Authoritarian leftists. Often more religious (either minorities or devout Irish/Italian/Polish Catholics) but also very urban, and currently under the throes of a Christian Socialist dictatorship. Vermont and Berkshire are granted autonomy due to its left-libertarian tradition and act as a den of smugglers.

Blue faction: Authoritarian rightists. The majority of this is a Protestant theocracy, with a Gullah State and a Catholic Republic of Acadiana as vassals. Many blacks as well as free-minded whites have begun immigrating to Gullahland, which offers higher wages and freedom from the Army of Jesus. Incidentally, a black Muslim community has been able to emerge by presenting themselves as "the true unitarian Christians, followers of the message of Jesus (Isa), Moses (Musa), Mary (Maryam), and the Desert Prophet (Muhammad)"; American Christianity loves its multitude of sects as long as they kneel before Supply-Side Jesus.

Yellow faction: Libertarian rightists. The western part is a federation of rich but socially liberal Hollywood entertainers, Silicon Valley cyberpunks, and old-school Mormons - Cliven Bundy is currently the Primus Inter Pares of the Southern California and Rockies Republic. Even though it claims to be libertarian, that just means that the jackboot of tyranny is covered in corporate logos and its gulags actually charge inmates for their time in prison. Eastern (Texas) areas are more socially conservative, but even more fiercely rural, although there is the possibility that they'll join the neutrals sooner or later.

Silver: Centrists and non-ideologicals. The Midwestern Area is currently ruled by an iron-fisted but non-ideological strongman (think Vladimir Putin, who's willing to buddy with everyone from Jill Stein to Donald Trump to Puigdemont if they fulfill Russian interests) who is adeptly playing the different sides. He is allied with the Park City Junta (secular but insanely paranoid moderate forces in the Rockies) and the Navajo Nation (the most technologically advanced country in the Americas, if not the world, thanks to an agreement to take over what's left of Los Alamos and the long history of ties between New Mexico and cutting-edge science). The Navajos have pretty much the entirety of the US' nuclear arsenal under their control as President #46 ordered it all sent to New Mexico when he saw his country crumbling.
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Tl;dr: Long time lurker, new-time member. Here's my map.

My map of the world after the events in a fanon wiki roleplay called Apocalypse Now, which deals with the supernatural world waging an Apocalypse for the fate of mankind. The Archangels Gabriel and Raphael lead Heaven against their former brother Lucifer who leads Hell, and they fight Trihexa, an ancient beast of evil that the Archangels sealed together before the dawn of the Universe. In the middle of this is the beleaugered Team DXD, a team of supernatural heroes and rebelling angels, as well as the United Nations, which fights to restore human sovereignty to Earth, a la World War Z.

In the aftermath of the Apocalypse, the worlds' order has surprisingly not changed that much. The European Union and the British Empire (ahem, the United Kingdom) are the world's two largest and most prosperous countries, although the US retains the largest overall economy. Ever since overthrowing Putin back in 2019 the Russians (under the Constitutional Tsar) have been doing quite well, and are more capitalist and (a bit) more democratic than before. China is a United Federation now, and is a rather turbulent republic.

Most of Africa remains a mess ruled by warlords, although a few countries have survived. The Congo was backed up by a lord of Hell who decided that the Congo's natural resources would be better in his pocket than left to the wolves.

Orange-highlighted countries are countries that have been taken over either by coups led by demons or coups by demons.

Red are warlord states/rebel areas/unrecognised states Sahrawi, Somaliland, and the Warlord of Luanda have their own special grey border outlines, because those three are actually well-organised with some functioning form of an economy/military, and could be potentially recognised as countries some day. Emphasis on some day.

I must admit I borrowed the general Africa make-up from B_Munro's World War Z map.

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Another map. This one is less satisfactory for me to be quite honest. I need to learn writing better description.

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This world diverge from ours shortly after the ascension of Osman II, the young gifted Ottoman Sultan through overthrowing Mustafa II in a coup. IOTL, Mustafa’s mother and Vali, Halime was responsible for cutting his rule short by mobilizing her networks of allies in harem, administration and janissaries to overthrow and murder Osman II. In here, her son had a severe episode of depression and committed suicide. His mother, plagued with grief, lost her touch with politics and then passed away rather shortly after. This did not prevent a Janissary rebellion later, but without Halime’s hand in it failed to overthrow the young Osman. On his part, surviving his assassination attempt imbued a lesson to heart that the Janissaries were still too strong, thus he chose to reconcile with them, giving him time consolidate his own power and wait until the right time to strike. He reigned for another 20 years before he passed away, officially due to illness though it was widely suspected he was poisoned. After his passing, his crown prince became the Sultan, which means his mother became Valide Sultan and chief of the harem, and together they pushed through Osman II’s agendas to abolish the Janissaries and reform the military and the state. Janissaries, who were mostly recruited from Balkan and Caucasian Christians, were replaced by a new force that were drawn from mainly ethnic Turks. With stronger, fresh armed forces formed just decades prior, it means Ottomans were more successful in later Great Turkish War, in which Vienna was successfully occupied if only temporarily. All of Hungary thus fell to Turkish rule, and will remain so for a long time.

The reform also had other effect of increasing Turkish settlement in European territories, in tandem with administrative reform and centralization pushing for more infrastructure and connection between administrative and economic centers with rural countryside and each other, kicking off urbanization and nurturing a class of entrepreneurs, craftsmen and service providers, aka. the middle class. In short, the ingredients necessary for industrialization. Like our world’s Bakufu Japan, the changes made it prepared for the incoming change brought by western progress later to have its own Meiji. Unlike Japan however, Ottoman Empire is just next door to Europe, meaning that it was at least updated on state of art weapons technology and military doctrines, with military and supporting state structure sufficiently effective to keep up. It means that it won’t hurry to adopt wholesale western discourse and political model when faced with European explosion in technological progress and industrial revolution in 19th century even as the system decays(which will not approach anywhere near OTL level). Instead it means more equal exchange of ideas between the west and Islamic world. For the west, it means western statehood and political ideologies are mobilized by incorporating Islamic MOs and philosophies, enabling them to take form of identitarian populism(Assabiyah), as well as strengthening and standardization of nationalism in liberal discourse. While for Islamic world, which adopts capitalism and industrialism but without liberal discourse package, means that consequential social transformation under industrialization translates to recontextualization of Assabiyah rivalry and millenarianism under the new industrial context, begetting radical religious interpretations revolving around society’s material structure and its distribution of wealth. All while Islamic political framework also provides political model for anti-liberal western conservatives as well as for non western countries which aim for modernization package where liberal democracy is absent.

The rest is history. As per OTL, Jacobin revolution set Europe towards the path of consolidation of nation states, which as stated prior went overall stronger due to unavoidable Islamic influence. On the other hand. Ottoman model of industrialization spread eastward to oriental empires that could afford to emulate it. It translates to series of wars between industrializing nations and empires across Europe and Eurasia, culminating in the Great World War at the turn towards 20th century. Then, more followed, such as more industrial wars, then revolutions and decolonizations. While a single full scale industrial war inspired pacifism and reconciliation in Europe, industrial warfare still drew the appetite of former gunpowder empires to the east for a bit longer. The Great Eurasian War erupted in 1925 between the great despots of Russia, Persia, China and Ottoman Empire ended up in stalemate and political chaos sweeping through the region. Following these wars were emergence of radical forces. In Europe the Jacobin ideology rebounded by the general Republican revolution sweeping across the continent, before formally unifying into European Federation. Islamic world however saw the emergence of polarizing and jeopardizing radical discourses, with Russian Empire brought down by Jacobin revolution and Iran by millenarian Islamist movement, a trend which ripples through the entire Islamic world, most notably to West Africa.

It was this swinging geopolitical equilibrium that then gave rise to division of the world into two camps espousing different global aspirations. United States, here not butterflied away yet developed differently due to more radical and complete reconstruction, inspired by liberal capitalism embarked on anti-European foreign policy to wrestle global market from European colonialism, which led to approach and trade with Asian Empires, meddling and undermining in European colonies in Africa and South Asia, and eventually rolled into Global Initiative, a movement initially aimed to connect the global market which became belligerent in the face of rising radical ideologies and renewed European ambition, this time under Jacobinist dressing.

Global Initiative:

Led by the United States and participated by major powers such as Ottoman Empire, China and Indonesia, the Global Initiative was at first formed to liberalize trade between United States and its allies, but then quickly transformed into a mutual security alliance to respond the rise of ideological challenges and threats to global trade, mainly Jacobinism. From the very beginningm Global Initiative espouses the ideal of a peaceful global order where trade can flourish regardless of cultural differences. In response to the rise of radical and reactionary ideologies, it develops a dialectic where the end goal of the world is mutual prosperity and that global market integration is the way to achieve it, and as such humanism must be based on mutual understanding and cooperation between nations and cultures, instead of forcing one’s own ideology and creed upon the other. Being a massive and disparate network of alliance, it is effectively consisted of three sub-bloc, the American bloc consisting of ANASAC and other American client states, the Ottoman-led Islamic bloc that stretches all the way to Mozambique, and the Indian Rim Forum.

Jacobinist States:

It is less a formal alliance and more of an ad-hoc grouping of nations under Jacobin ruling ideology. The Jacobins espouse the classic enlightenment brand of humanism as the only possible conclusion of human civilization and strive to spread the Jacobin revolution to unite the entire humanity under the ideals of individual rationality, liberty and equality. As it has won over the entire European sphere, it has set its eyes to the remaining “despotic”, “feudal” and “superstitious” dictatorial regimes around the world and seek to replace them with democratic republican system. Thus they have come into conflict with the Global Initiative who prefers coexistence and free trade. Ostensibly democratic, democracy in fact varies from one Jacobin state to another. The two largest Jacobin states, Democratic Republic of Russia and Azad Hindustan are semi-military junta and single party regime respectively, if with stated long term goal of completing democratization as in principle, a humanist world state is Jacobin’s vision of humanity.

Aside from the two global movements, there are also smaller important ideological currents. The Catholic world outside of Jacobin-ruled Europe and global initiative countries is divided between two ideologies: the naturalists and the liberationists. The naturalists espouse reactionary form of nation building based on natural law and religiously sanctioned hierarchy while adopting oriental industrialization model, while the liberationists are vanguarded by diehard catholic missionaries hell bent on removing corruption and injustice within Roman Catholic Church in order to legitimize the proselytization of Catholic faith, and have supported anti-colonial and anti-aristocratic movements such as in Camerún and Charcas respectively. More concerning case however lies in Islamic world, where two major radical epicenters have emerged. One in Persia where millenarian Shia movement overthrew the late Afsharid dynasty and replace it with a claimant to Ali’s lineage, which oversaw massive social reform as well as redistribution of wealth and land on the expense of traditional land lords and nomadic grazers, as well as experimenting with a form of popular participation centered around guilds and unions, although it quickly degenerated into Soviet-esque exploitative totalitarianism. Shia millenarianism, without saying, bears no appeal to its immediate neighbors who see it as ideological and security threat, such that it has remained unfriendly to both Global Initiative and the Jacobinists. Another is the Sahel in West Africa, where dan Fodio’s Caliphate of Sudan once briefly unified. Originating in state ideological reform to centralize the empire and expand its influence and ideology, and later its backfire as the agitated masses outside of Hausa realm turned toward the caliphate as well as antagonizing other major muslim empires of Ottomans and Morroco, a new strand of populist ideology emerged in former Sudanese client of Wassoulou. Instead of simple centralization and depriving opposition lords of their labor, the new emir of Wassoulou visionizes an industrialized Islamic Sahel society where egalitarianism and meritocracy rules supreme, tapping the maximum potential of Sudanese people to once again become a center of Islamic civilization. Needless to say, both Ottomans and Morocco view this radical awakening as an ideological threat and will not stand by on its growth. Despite American urging for restrain, a major war was inevitable. By February 1970, the alliance of Morocco and Ottoman Empire begins invasion into the Sahel states.
 
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Interesting. Is that Habsburg greater Switzerland and Munster? What's Poland's role in this?
Its Greater Switzerland plus more successful peasant revolt in Swabia (now highly decentralized "republic"), Munster is theocracy/commune (bit like "christian daesh").
Poland is ally to France and northeast Europe hegemon. Now dominates over Russia and keep personal union with Sweden (but had less luck in steppes...)
EDIT: Oh, I see you did something similar to that uber-switzarian commune. I wonder if I saw it before...
 
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Its Greater Switzerland plus more successful peasant revolt in Swabia (now highly decentralized "republic"), Munster is theocracy/commune (bit like "christian daesh").

Rather similar colors. Looks like Britain managed to get part of the Netherlands?
 
Rather similar colors. Looks like Britain managed to get part of the Netherlands?
Yeah (at first I though that both should be some wild heretic theocracies - bit like hussite Bohemia or that otl Munster... but now I think, that at least mega-switzerland would be too much decentralized and more liberal, when it comes to religion... so armed-neutral Swiss? How original :D)
Britain (well, England, at least Scotland is independent) just carry on with its medieval ties on Rhine (or maybe just younger and luckier Anna of Cleves?). King of England is now count of Holland, Cleves and Nassau.
 
Interesting stuff, but a lot of American borders look too convergent to me for a 1699 POD.

Because I was lazy, and this map was delayed for so long that I kinda forgotten what sort of story I wanted to put in the setting. But the basic premise is me experimenting on how secular nationalism will look like taking up assabiyah from Islam and how Islam itself would look like being the one which develops what basically amounts to diamat discourse.

Also, America is an easy choice for a fulcrum for an ideological strain opposed to Jacobinism since contrarianism is what America excels at, even over a monistic revolutionary ideology whose zeal only gets amplified by stronger Islamic influence and challenge.
 
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Guyana Following the Great War

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In 1895, following the American Civil War, tension with the United Kingdom were at an all time high. Many Americans falsely blamed the war on the British Empire putting too much stress on the States, claiming their refusal to aid the Union was proof enough. Enter, the Venezuelan Crisis of 1895, also called The Essequibo War. Which was fought between the Venezuela [Supported by the United States and their client states] versus British Guyana supported by the British.

The Americans eventually ceded defeat when tensions between the Spanish and Americans were looking as though a Spanish American War was underway; the Americans were worried that If such a war did occur while they were also fighting the British, the British would also support the Spanish. So a White Peace was established, with the Border Remaining as it was. However, the Americans would not forget this embarrassment.

When the American Empire joined The Great War, she brought her various client states and made deals to the Guatemalans and Venezuelans for their entry. Guatemala would regain the territory they lost in the Third Anglo-American War + Belize, while the Venezuelans would get their desired Essequibo River Border with British Guyana.
 
A random map I made that has is completely ASB and has no backstory except a surviving divided Roman Empire. Sorry in advance for the terrible names, borders and... well, everything really :p Feel free to ask questions.
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Why are the various colonies of the ERE referred to as Greek *Insert Name* ? Shouldn't they also be called Roman *Insert Name* especially when you've already color coded them?
 
Why are the various colonies of the ERE referred to as Greek *Insert Name* ? Shouldn't they also be called Roman *Insert Name* especially when you've already color coded them?
That is a mistake on my behalf.
So how was Arabia's overpopulation solved? Was there an avenue of expansion other than the Levant and Iran?
They were divided between the East Roman Empire and Persia for a long time, their population fighting itself though wars or colonizing east Africa and Srivijaya under Greek overlords. It stayed like this until Persia was temporarily conquered by (H)India, At which point Arabia became a semi-independent buffer state of the Eastern Roman Empire.
 
... I can see the problem. More likely the Walloons would move a bit into Champagne and Lorraine than French Flanders. Though understandable they would go after Picardy and Calais. Does this map have the French, Austrian, Italian, etc lands being sent over with the people included? It is just such a shame more German areas weren't sent along to bolster Luxembourg and the German Soeaking Community in Belgium. Would have been so fun to see to multi-linguistic unions competing with each other.
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Here's a quick Belarus wank to remedy that
now this has gotten me thinking about a Belarusian Grand Duchy of Lithuania. In the same manner that Savoyard Piedmont (plus Genoa) too, on the name of Sardinia in order to take the kingdom title.
Very heavy WIP, and I'm still not super sure of the POD, but there's a Swisswank, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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i do adore the Netherlands. Would you break it up even further into Provices? Or you having the core territory more unified?
Hey, if we're doing reposts now, what about my old swiss-wank?

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I am surprised the Wnglish didn't just stick with Commonwealth, though I suppose it and republic fairly similar translations from the original Latin. Before noticing Dionisio and Scotland mentally deduced they became a republic solely so they could say the Republican Bloc was following after them. Anyways, fantastic map. How long ago did you make it? And fantastic stuff with the Von Gundoldingen Dynasty Lands. Colonies for landlocked countries... I do hope someone does something similar to your map sometime. I would adore to see what they would do with the backgrounds for these colonies.
 
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