Here's a rough list so far...
1990
Ducktales: Treasure of the Lost Lamp (Disney)
The Prince and the Pauper (Disney; short)
Rollercoaster Rabbit (Disney; short)
Edward Scissorhands (Disney or Hyperion)
All Dogs Go to Heaven (Disney)
Outback Jake (Amblimation or Warner Bros)
Nutcracker Prince (Lacewood)*
Little Nemo in Slumberland (Hemdale; import)
Happily Ever After (produced IOTL by Filmation)**
1991
Star Trek IV (Paramount)
The Little Engine That Could (Universal)
The Magic Riddle (Yoram Gross)*
The Butter Battle Book (20th Century Fox)
Roger Rabbit 2 (Hyperion)
Beauty and the Beast (Disney)
An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (Grand Diamond)
Rover Dangerfield (Warner Bros)
1992
Blinky Bill (Yoram Gross)*
Fern Gully (20th Century Fox)
Aladdin (Disney)
Tom and Jerry The Movie (Turner)
1993
Popeye the Sailor (Paramount)
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (CBS)
We're Back: A Dinosaur's Story (Amblimation)
The Nightmare Before Christmas (Disney)
Once Upon a Forest (ABC?)
TBD (Disney)
1994
Roger Rabbit 3 (Disney)
The Lion King (Disney)
The Swan Princess (Amblimation)
The Pagemaster (Turner)
1995
Balto (Amblimation)
A Goofy Movie (Disney)
TBD (Disney)
1996
Beavis and Butthead Do America (Turner/Geffen)
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)
1997
TBD (Disney)
Pippi Longstocking (Paramount)
Cats Don't Dance (Turner)
Babes in Toyland (Turner)
1998
Mulan (Disney)
Batman and Mr Freeze: SubZero (CBS)
The Mighty Kong (Warner Bros or Universal)
The Rugrats Movie (Nickelodeon)
Quest for Camelot (minus Devon and Cornwall) (Warner Bros)
Scooby Doo on Zombie Island (ABC)
1999
Batman Beyond (CBS)
The Phantom Menace (Disney)
Doug's First Movie (TBD)
The Iron Giant (TBD)
Babar 2 (Paramount)
The King and I (Amblimation or Warner Bros)
Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost (ABC)
TBD
The Princess and the Goblin (Hemdale; import)
Star Wars: Shadows of the Titan (Disney)
Star Wars: Dark Empire (Disney)
Don Quixote (Disney)
Untitled Oswald the Rabbit project (Disney)
Untitled Star Wars/Anastasia hybrid (Disney)
Untitled Fantasia sequel (Disney)
Daisy Head Mayzie (CMJ)
Cats (Amblimation)
Prince of Egypt (Amblimation)
Joseph: King of Dreams (Amblimation)
Our Friend Martin (DiC)
Madeline: Lost in Paris (DiC)
Star Trek TNG (Paramount)
The Berenstain Bears (TBD)
Little Critter (DiC)
Around the World in 80 Days (TBD)
Three Musketeers (TBD)
Treasure Island (TBD)
Journey to the Center of the Earth (TBD)
Polar Express (TBD)
Dog of Flanders (TBD)
Hans Brinker or the Silver Skates (TBD)
Greame Base Animated Universe (TBD)
Hercules and Xena (CBS/Raimi?)
Also, have we decided who would import Ghibli's stuff to the US?
*Needs distributor
**With Filmation out of business ITTL, maybe Ruby-Spears, Film Roman or Murakami Wolf Swenson could produce this one?
If you guys have any suggestions, corrections or other ideas, let me know and I'll add them to the board.
I'd say everything that's already been released as a "Classic" stays a "Classic", everything that hasn't been released (on home video) prior to Holiday '89/Q1 '90 is released as a "Masterpiece" and doesn't earn the "Classic" label until it's 3rd/4th re-release.How would you set up the Classic/Masterpiece ladder/chart/etc after 1990?
This. All of this.
- I think Don Quixote should take the '95 Disney slot.
- Outback Jake should be Amblimation.
- The Untitled Oswald the Rabbit Movie should be called "Oswald the Lucky Rabbit In The Long Journey Home" and it should have a poster emulating the old cartoon posters. I'm still adamant that it should be the last film Walt sees before he passes away.
- The films needing a distributor could be distributed by Warner Brothers.
- The Iron Giant should either be Grand Diamond or Murakami-Wolf-Swenson
- Happily Ever After should be made by Ruby Spears. Maybe having a successful theatrical outing would keep Ruby-Spears from folding in '96.
- Is the Star Trek TNG film an animated version of any OTL films or an entirely original film? If it's "original" I think that "The Best of Both Worlds" could work as an animated film.
- The Star Wars/Anastasia hybrid should be called "Star Wars: Rise of the Sith" and be focused on the successful Sith plot to kill the Organa family. It'd feature young Constantine being taken by the Sith and Leia being taken by the rebels to avoid being taken by the Sith. At this stage Constantine was told that his sister was killed in the "accident" that killed his family. Because they want him to be a complacent puppet rather than a Sith himself at this point.
- What are "Star Wars: Shadows of the Titan" and "Star Wars: Dark Empire" about?
- Journey To The Center of the Earth and Around the World In Eighty Days should be made by Murakami-Wolf-Swenson. In fact, they should have an entire series of Verne adaptations. Maybe making good movies would stop them from making half-baked children's TV shows.
- Three Musketeers should be made by Turner. Treasure Island should be made by Disney. It'd be a good opportunity to turn Tom Sawyer's Island in the pirate-themed Treasure Island.
- Polar Express should be made by Turner. Because the animation style of Pagemaster would work well with the story.
- I think Amblimation should get the opportunity to import Studio Ghibli's work. Who better to import the work of the "Steven Spielberg of anime" than Steven Spielberg himself.
This. All of this.
Nothing in particular, just complete agreement in general. In case he was keeping track for a vote.Do you have anything, in particular, to discuss with my post? While I'm glad you like it I'd be even gladder to discuss it.
- I think Don Quixote should take the '95 Disney slot.
- Outback Jake should be Amblimation.
- The Untitled Oswald the Rabbit Movie should be called "Oswald the Lucky Rabbit In The Long Journey Home" and it should have a poster emulating the old cartoon posters. I'm still adamant that it should be the last film Walt sees before he passes away.
- The films needing a distributor could be distributed by Warner Brothers.
- The Iron Giant should either be Grand Diamond or Murakami-Wolf-Swenson
- Happily Ever After should be made by Ruby Spears. Maybe having a successful theatrical outing would keep Ruby-Spears from folding in '96.
- Is the Star Trek TNG film an animated version of any OTL films or an entirely original film? If it's "original" I think that "The Best of Both Worlds" could work as an animated film.
- The Star Wars/Anastasia hybrid should be called "Star Wars: Rise of the Sith" and be focused on the successful Sith plot to kill the Organa family. It'd feature young Constantine being taken by the Sith and Leia being taken by the rebels to avoid being taken by the Sith. At this stage Constantine was told that his sister was killed in the "accident" that killed his family. Because they want him to be a complacent puppet rather than a Sith himself at this point.
- What are "Star Wars: Shadows of the Titan" and "Star Wars: Dark Empire" about?
- Journey To The Center of the Earth and Around the World In Eighty Days should be made by Murakami-Wolf-Swenson. In fact, they should have an entire series of Verne adaptations. Maybe making good movies would stop them from making half-baked children's TV shows.
- Three Musketeers should be made by Turner. Treasure Island should be made by Disney. It'd be a good opportunity to turn Tom Sawyer's Island in the pirate-themed Treasure Island.
- Polar Express should be made by Turner. Because the animation style of Pagemaster would work well with the story.
- I think Amblimation should get the opportunity to import Studio Ghibli's work. Who better to import the work of the "Steven Spielberg of anime" than Steven Spielberg himself.
I'd say everything that's already been released as a "Classic" stays a "Classic", everything that hasn't been released (on home video) prior to Holiday '89/Q1 '90 is released as a "Masterpiece" and doesn't earn the "Classic" label until it's 3rd/4th re-release.
I've got another idea for you. A series of animated films made for adults showcasing lesser-known historical stories. Like Richard Rich's Animated Hero Classics if they were meant for adult audiences. Here are a couple ideas for them.Nothing in particular, just complete agreement in general. In case he was keeping track for a vote.
Spielberg and Miyazaki together? Your wish is my command.
Have we found a distributor for Amblimation? We talked about Geffen, right?
Yes we could have WB distribute those titles needing a distributor, and maybe Warner Bros can have a joint venture with Village Roadshow for the Yoram Gross titles.
Even with TMNT still on the rise as a moneymaking IP, it would definitely be wise for Murakami Wolf Swenson to break in to feature films to hopefully keep the dough, not the pizza kind mind you, rolling in.
All we need is the right year for the Oswald film to come out.
Turner would be good for Polar Express. I am planning to have Turner bring out Tom and Jerry the Movie under the MGM label, so should Turner alternate the UA and MGM labels for their animated films, or stick to UA being the A brand and MGM the B brand?
Star Wars: Shadow of the Titan was an idea we kicked around for a hybrid of Shadows of the Empire and Titan AE. Dark Empire was really based on a comic book arc that Dark Horse put out IOTL.
Maybe with Gary Goldman currently at ABC, maybe he gets stuck with Troll in Central Park and Pebble and the Penguin? Lol.
Maybe Disney could do a Treasure Island remake instead of Treasure Planet? With that, we'll need a new theme or story to replace Muppet Treasure Island.
I thought about having a TNG movie be basically a Generations without the TOS characters, but maybe Best of Both Worlds can work once we agree on a cohesive storyline.
Good call for MWS to produce a Jules Verne cinematic universe. Ditto to Ruby-Spears taking over Happily Ever After.
Fair enough. Muppet Alice in Wonderland, then?
Alice, naturally. And the Queen of Hearts if we're going by the Muppet Treasure Island logic of having the main villain played by a human actor.Muppet Alice it is. But which characters could still be played by human actors?
1993
Oswald the Lucky Rabbit (Disney)
Popeye the Sailor (Paramount)
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (CBS)
We're Back: A Dinosaur's Story (Amblimation)
The Nightmare Before Christmas (Disney)
Once Upon a Forest (ABC)
TBD (Disney; B Squad)
Oh man! Young me would've been so psyched for a Rescue Rangers movie!!The 93 B Team movie could be a Rescue Rangers movie? One was planned OTL but never got anywhere. But i dunno. It's up to you. If you don't wanna go that way, it could maybe be one of the Star Wars spinoffs?
I'd say make the Berenstain Bears go to CBS, the Verne stuff would fit with Universal (think of the ride material in those films after all) they'd fit around 95, and Prince of Egypt would fit around 97 or 98.Made a few revisions here and there...
Still need dates
The Princess and the Goblin (Hemdale; import)
Star Wars: Shadows of the Titan (Disney)
Star Wars: Dark Empire (Disney)
Star Wars: Rise of the Sith (Disney)
Daisy Head Mayzie (20th Century Fox; CMJ)
Cats (Amblimation)
Prince of Egypt (Amblimation)
Joseph: King of Dreams (Amblimation)
Our Friend Martin (DiC)
Madeline: Lost in Paris (DiC)
Star Trek: The Best of Both Worlds (Paramount)
Little Critter (DiC)
Three Musketeers (Turner)
Treasure Island (Disney)
Polar Express (Turner)
Hercules and Xena (CBS/Raimi?)
Untitled Oz Project (Turner)
Still need dates/distributors/production companies
The Berenstain Bears (TBD)
Dog of Flanders (TBD)
Hans Brinker or the Silver Skates (TBD)
Greame Base Animated Universe (TBD)
Tarzan (TBD)
Alexander and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day (TBD)
Bridge To Terabithia (TBD)
Chronicles of Narnia Animated Universe (TBD)
Still need dates/distributors
Around the World in 80 Days (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
Journey to the Center of the Earth (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
Mysterious Island (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
Five Weeks in a Balloon (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
From the Earth to the Moon (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
A ducktales/darkwing crossover perhaps?Oh man! Young me would've been so psyched for a Rescue Rangers movie!!
Other ideas for movies based on the TV series would be TaleSpin, Darkwing Duck, and a standalone Gizmoduck movie.
Oh man! Young me would've been so psyched for a Rescue Rangers movie!!
Made a few revisions here and there...
1990
Ducktales: Treasure of the Lost Lamp (Disney; B Squad)
The Prince and the Pauper (Disney; short)
Rollercoaster Rabbit (Disney; short)
Edward Scissorhands (Disney or Hyperion)
All Dogs Go to Heaven (Disney)
Outback Jake (Geffen; Amblimation)
Nutcracker Prince (Warner Bros; Lacewood)
Little Nemo in Slumberland (Hemdale; import)
Happily Ever After (Ruby Spears)
1991
Star Trek IV (Paramount)
The Little Engine That Could (Universal)
The Magic Riddle (Warner Bros/Village Roadshow; Yoram Gross)
The Butter Battle Book (20th Century Fox; CMJ)
Roger Rabbit 2 (Hyperion; Richard Williams)
Beauty and the Beast (Disney)
An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (Grand Diamond)
Rover Dangerfield (Warner Bros)
1992
Blinky Bill (Warner Bros/Village Roadshow; Yoram Gross)
Fern Gully (20th Century Fox)
Aladdin (Disney)
Tom and Jerry The Movie (Turner)
1993
Oswald the Lucky Rabbit (Disney)
Popeye the Sailor (Paramount)
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (CBS)
We're Back: A Dinosaur's Story (Amblimation)
The Nightmare Before Christmas (Disney)
Once Upon a Forest (ABC)
TBD (Disney; B Squad)
1994
Roger Rabbit 3 (Hyperion; Richard Williams)
The Lion King (Disney)
The Swan Princess (Amblimation)
The Pagemaster (Turner)
1995
Balto (Amblimation)
A Goofy Movie (Disney; B Squad)
Don Quixote (Disney)
1996
James and the Giant Peach (Disney)
Beavis and Butthead Do America (Turner/Geffen)
The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)
1997
TBD (Disney)
Pippi Longstocking (Paramount)
Cats Don't Dance (Turner)
Babes in Toyland (Turner)
1998
Mulan (Disney)
Batman and Mr Freeze: SubZero (CBS)
The Mighty Kong (Warner Bros or Universal)
The Rugrats Movie (Nickelodeon)
Quest for Camelot (minus Devon and Cornwall) (Warner Bros)
Scooby Doo on Zombie Island (ABC)
1999
Batman Beyond (CBS)
The Phantom Menace (Disney)
Doug's First Movie (TBD)
The Iron Giant (TBD)
Babar 2 (Paramount)
The King and I (Amblimation or Warner Bros)
Scooby Doo and the Witch's Ghost (ABC)
Still need dates
The Princess and the Goblin (Hemdale; import)
Star Wars: Shadows of the Titan (Disney)
Star Wars: Dark Empire (Disney)
Star Wars: Rise of the Sith (Disney)
Daisy Head Mayzie (20th Century Fox; CMJ)
Cats (Amblimation)
Prince of Egypt (Amblimation)
Joseph: King of Dreams (Amblimation)
Our Friend Martin (DiC)
Madeline: Lost in Paris (DiC)
Star Trek: The Best of Both Worlds (Paramount)
Little Critter (DiC)
Three Musketeers (Turner)
Treasure Island (Disney)
Polar Express (Turner)
Hercules and Xena (CBS/Raimi?)
Untitled Oz Project (Turner)
Still need dates/distributors/production companies
The Berenstain Bears (TBD)
Dog of Flanders (TBD)
Hans Brinker or the Silver Skates (TBD)
Greame Base Animated Universe (TBD)
Tarzan (TBD)
Alexander and the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day (TBD)
Bridge To Terabithia (TBD)
Chronicles of Narnia Animated Universe (TBD)
Still need dates/distributors
Around the World in 80 Days (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
Journey to the Center of the Earth (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
Mysterious Island (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
Five Weeks in a Balloon (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
From the Earth to the Moon (Murakami Wolf Swenson)
Still need dates
Ghibi titles to be imported and dubbed in English by Amblin Entertainment
Castle in the Sky
Grave of the Fireflies
My Neighbor Totoro
Kiki’s Delivery Service
Only Yesterday
Porco Rosso
Pom Poko
Whisper of the Heart
Princess Mononoke
My Neighbors the Yamadas