Well PanAm could have lingered on if Congress hadn't moved to block their various attempted mergers under the rational of "trust-busting"...
Blade Running ATL: A Collaborative TL with Electric Sheep
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Well PanAm could have lingered on if Congress hadn't moved to block their various attempted mergers under the rational of "trust-busting"...
Well, consider it the idea that in the big cities, everyone is still using landlines, and it is pretty easy to guess that AT&T still has a monopoly on telecommunications in the U.S., which it pretty much was until the 1980s....
What if cellular phones became impossible because of EMP attacks from World War Terminus.
With the film and book, we know that Los Angeles (film) and San Francisco (book/graphic novel) were overwhelmed with refugees from Asia. We can guess that China and Japan were the origins for a majority of the people. This would mean that sometime before World War Terminus, the immigration laws which prevented Asian immigration were ended in roughly the same period of c, 1965-1968 as in OTL.
Or that USA and Canada were overrun by asian refugees, like Europa is overrun by Arabic refugees of Iraq and Syria civil war.
only that asian refugees comes in much larger numbers
So what could make things so worst that million of Chinese and Japanese try to get west coast of USA ?
the 1968 Sino-Soviet border conflict erupted in war, how end use of nuclear weapons and Soviet and Chinese use in that time really dirty bombs !
With so massive radioactive fallout would let to emigration of nations and USA "home of Free" is very attractive for refugees
Like the Syria refugees who want to go Germany "Home of prosperity"
Assuming those conditions, I can see an escalation of the fighting, with the six months marked by marathon diplomatic sessions aimed at delaying a nuclear conflict. After the six months, in c. December 1968, the missiles begin flying.
yes that would work
there is interesting backstory (or legend?) to Ping-pong diplomacy
in 1968 Soviet diplomats in Washington D.C. ask there americans colleagues on reception and party and diners
"What would america do if case happen we start nuclear war with China ?"
National Security Adviser Henry Kissinger realized what that mean Soviets and China were on point of war, nuclear War !
he answered "USA would take China side in this conflict and retaliate"
This shocked the Soviets deeply and surprised the Chinese
what let to Ping-pong diplomacy, a trip to Pakistan for Henry Kissinger and Nixon goes to China
on long term defuse the Soviet-Chinese conflict
now without Henry Kissinger and Anti Communist US president things in Soviet-Chinese conflict could go horribly wrong...
Then again there was also the problem that there a Soviet attempt by submarine K-129 to detonate a nuclear weapon at Pearl Harbor and blame it on the Chinese.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/400391.Red_Star_Rogue
Here is some news to revive the ATL:
http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/17/9748952/ridley-scott-details-opening-scene-of-blade-runner-sequel
http://www.polygon.com/2015/11/17/9748952/ridley-scott-details-opening-scene-of-blade-runner-sequel
With 2017, the year featured in the original "Blade Runner" movie coming up, along with news that Jared Leto and Harrison Ford announced as starring in a sequel, what are some PODs to add to the ATL....
Here are a few PODs to flag that the ATL is going forward:
November 20, 1996: U.S. military launches Project ADAM, aimed at the introduction of upgraded replicants to serve as military forces , replacing human forces,....
July 12, 2001: World War Terminus; Russian and American military forces clash in a limited nuclear campaign, damaging portions of the environment,....
February 6, 2003: United Nations announces plans for the manned colonization of the solar system in an effort to "insure the survival of the human species",....
February 14, 2005: NEXUS-1 replicant is unveiled in Mountain View, California as the first of the Tyrell Corporation creations, sparking international attention,....
November 17, 2010: Tannhäuser Incident; Mass insurrection of droids is reported off world, sparking concerns about the safety and use of replicants worldwide,....
January 3, 2011: United Nations Security Council (UNSC) rules that replicants are to be considered illegal on Earth, sparking international attention and concern, with orders for the droids to be destroyed within 28 days,....
April 23, 2011: United Nations authorizes the deployment of replicants for interplanetary deployment in New York City, New York,......
February 12, 2015: Bolivian War; U.S. replicant forces are deployed into Caracas, Venezuela, amidst reports of a CIA-backed coup to overthrow the government,....
March 25, 2016: Montana Insurrection/Rebellion fueling concern about the nature of mass colonization,.....
December 4, 2016: Replicant Rebellion is reported by officials in Phoenix, Arizona, fueling concerns about the nature of the droids,....
November 20, 1996: U.S. military launches Project ADAM, aimed at the introduction of upgraded replicants to serve as military forces , replacing human forces,....
July 12, 2001: World War Terminus; Russian and American military forces clash in a limited nuclear campaign, damaging portions of the environment,....
February 6, 2003: United Nations announces plans for the manned colonization of the solar system in an effort to "insure the survival of the human species",....
February 14, 2005: NEXUS-1 replicant is unveiled in Mountain View, California as the first of the Tyrell Corporation creations, sparking international attention,....
November 17, 2010: Tannhäuser Incident; Mass insurrection of droids is reported off world, sparking concerns about the safety and use of replicants worldwide,....
January 3, 2011: United Nations Security Council (UNSC) rules that replicants are to be considered illegal on Earth, sparking international attention and concern, with orders for the droids to be destroyed within 28 days,....
April 23, 2011: United Nations authorizes the deployment of replicants for interplanetary deployment in New York City, New York,......
February 12, 2015: Bolivian War; U.S. replicant forces are deployed into Caracas, Venezuela, amidst reports of a CIA-backed coup to overthrow the government,....
March 25, 2016: Montana Insurrection/Rebellion fueling concern about the nature of mass colonization,.....
December 4, 2016: Replicant Rebellion is reported by officials in Phoenix, Arizona, fueling concerns about the nature of the droids,....
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missouribob
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With that late of a POD it's ASB. First of all we still aren't anywhere near that level of A.I. or computing technology to produce androids like that. Secondly they are colonizing space. Third L.A. is basically an arcology in the film right?
A) In regards to the ASB nature, I am going to admit that the ATL is more advanced scientifically than OTL, but I can certainly see events, whether in terms of the environment or astronomical (e.g. meteor strike) contributing to the massive changes in the ATL.
B) Yes, they are colonizing space, and in a form that is similar to the model seen in Ridley Scott model. I admit this is pretty heavy duty, but let's see what can be achieved in terms of an ATL that at least has some grasp on reality. If anything, I see the work of "Back to the Future II" and "Soldier" as being possibly linked into the ATL....
C) Depends on which interpretation. Consider that the novel has it in San Francisco, while the movie has Los Angeles as a over-crowded mess...
Should we have a Sino-Soviet War in 1968 or a meteor strike in 1982, As proposed by the fan site? As you can tell, both are pretty big measures....
Here are a few PODs by fan sites and books to continue the weirdness:
May 30, 1999: U.S. federal government reports the collapse of the health care system nationwide in Washington D.C.,....
March 27, 2015: Peter Weyland, Weyland Industries, announces the commercial development of solar energy worldwide,...
February 2, 2016: Peter Weyland. Is credited with "reversing global warming ", sparking international attention,.
May 30, 1999: U.S. federal government reports the collapse of the health care system nationwide in Washington D.C.,....
March 27, 2015: Peter Weyland, Weyland Industries, announces the commercial development of solar energy worldwide,...
February 2, 2016: Peter Weyland. Is credited with "reversing global warming ", sparking international attention,.
We're Back!!! Here are a few official PODs from the films to make sure that things become familiar:
February 1, 2011: First Blade Runner units go into operation across the globe, citing the threat posed to civilian populations by artificial intelligences,....
November 25, 2018: Voight-Kampff Altered Empathy Test is secretly tested in New York, Beijing, Paris, and Tokyo, with the sole intent being to identify artificial intelligences based on their levels of empathy,....
February 1, 2019: Latest version of the Voight-Kampff test for empathy is released by the United Nations, and placed under strict administrative control.
February 1, 2011: First Blade Runner units go into operation across the globe, citing the threat posed to civilian populations by artificial intelligences,....
November 25, 2018: Voight-Kampff Altered Empathy Test is secretly tested in New York, Beijing, Paris, and Tokyo, with the sole intent being to identify artificial intelligences based on their levels of empathy,....
February 1, 2019: Latest version of the Voight-Kampff test for empathy is released by the United Nations, and placed under strict administrative control.
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March 8, 1968: Soviet submarine K-129 detonates a nuclear warhead at Oahu, Hawaii, successfully framing the People's Republic of China for the act, fueling calls for the U.S. nuclear destruction of the People's Republic of China, by the Johnson Administration,....
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POD today in a remote valley in Tibet. Han Chinese companies extract the last of the lithium salts from a dry lake bed. Contaminated drinking water causes strange diseases among the original Tibetan/Mongolian inhabitants of the valley. Dust and toxic refinery chemicals settle on the remaining arable land, ruining any hope of growing vegetables.
The next valley to the north contains "barracks" for former Tibetan herders. After their yak herds were marched to Chinese slaughter-houses, Tibetan nomadic herders were forced to settle for boring jobs in dirty factories. After contracts are completed, factories are abandoned and former nomadic herders struggle to eke out livings in run-down barracks towns. Petty crime is rampant.
Starving ethnic Tibetans flee to the West Coast of Canada.
Then North Korea explodes a series of EMP bombs over major first-world cities. Few people die during the initial attacks, but melted electronic gadgets drag the economy to a halt within a week. Only older, heavier, better shielded electronic devices survive (e.g. pay phones). Then people die from starvation ..... by the millions!!!!!!!!
With cheap Tibetan sources of lithium depleted, they re-open (expensive) hard-rock mines to produce enough lithium to rebuild the old electronic economy. Hard-rock lithium is far more expensive, but never available in sufficient quantities. The only way to find lithium is by dismantling old electronic devices and melting the old lithium. Re-cycling electronics is a "minimum-wage" job ...... like most other re-cycling jobs.