Ok, RiverDelta, I think it's about time for you to get back to your armchair and read Bordiga. Who knows, maybe communism will just magically appear overnight if you just do that and keep labeling every single successful revolutionary movement as capitalist. Do even have any concept of a transition phase?
Yeah, keep poorly citing shitty tankie memes.
Obviously you're some kind of Marxist intellectual who knows what they're talking about.
First, Bordiga's actually worth reading, you should try it sometime.
I didn't know that "Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence", i.e. communism isn't something that comes from leftist revolutionaries enacting regime change, the contradictions in capitalism drive the creation of communism. Your "successful" revolutionary movements haven't succeeded in doing anything but creating a slightly different manifestation of capitalism, hardly worth the ethnic cleansings, mass imprisonment, wars of conquest, political repression, secret polices, and, and I almost forgot this one, the deaths of untold amounts of innocent lives in the name of a bourgeois revolution with red flags. Militants, leftists...and civilians.
Great job assisting the proletariat in their own liberation, I guess killing as many of the proletariat as possible for bourgeois causes to set up a new bourgeoisie totally is the same thing as the proletariat liberating themselves.
Yep, I don't see any issues there.
I've said a lot about the whole "Oh, left communists just call all of my
totally socialist bourgeois dictatorships capitalist and call it a day" thing, so I'll focus on your next statement, that of the "transitional phase".
The transitional phase is the
revolution itself, and that revolution is formed through the contradictions in capitalism, not the patronizing bullshit of leftists. Marx did talk about a "lower stage" of communism, as did Bordiga, who saw it as communism with rations. Marx used communism and socialism interchangeably, while referring to the "communist movement" also as communism. It's understanding that those two very different ideas might be confusing. Anyway, to summarize, people who refer to what Stalinists call "socialism" isn't Marx's lower phase of communism.
People who believe that socialism and communism are different know nothing about the history of those terms, their meanings, and indeed the history of the entire communist movement.