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In her article "The Way to Winged Eros" she wrote: "On the one hand, a healthy sexual instinct - the attraction of the two sexes to each other for the purpose of reproduction under the pressure of ugly socio-economic relations, especially under the rule of capitalism, degenerated into unhealthy lust. In a self-sufficient goal, in a way to deliver one more "superfluous pleasure," into lust, exacerbated by excesses, perversions, the harmful whipping of the flesh. A man does not so converge with a woman that a healthy sexual inclination is imperious by Attracted him to the woman, but on the contrary, the man is looking for a woman, not yet experiencing any sexual need, so that, thanks to the proximity of this woman, cause a sexual desire and, thus, to enjoy himself the very fact of sexual intercourse.This builds prostitution If closeness to a woman does not cause the expected excitement, people full of sexual excess resort to all kinds of perversions. This is a deviation of the biological instinct underlying love between the sexes, towards unhealthy lust, leading the instinct far away from its original source. "
""Wingless Eros" contradicts the interests of the working class: first, it inevitably leads to ... excesses, and therefore bodily depletion, which lowers the stock of labor energy in humanity. Secondly, it impoverishes the soul, preventing development and strengthening Emotional ties and sympathetic feelings, thirdly, he usually rests on the inequality of rights in the mutual relations of the sexes, on the dependence of women on men, on male self-sufficiency or insubordination, which undoubtedly acts depressingly on the development of a sense of camaraderie. Back is the presence of "winged Eros"."
I'm not an expert on her work, but from what I read, that was only casual sexual encounters. She was overall a proponent of free love.
That said, this argument is off topic. And frankly, this is just another rehash of arguments you've already made.
I myself infinitely respect this great woman, but she still condemned the domination of "Wingless Eros" (the usual sexual attraction without love) over "Winged Eros".
This work isn't translated into English. Link to the original - https://www.marxists.org/russkij/kollontai/winged_eros.htm
Because, of course, people always embrace the exact, full belief system a person had, and not most of the time, just take their overall beliefs, and occasionally ignore parts that contradict their own personal beliefs.
Once again, this is off-topic. There is a spillover thread for this stuff.
Forgive me. Still here, the ideas of another person were taught ....
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Bookmark1995
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Toronto Worker's Book Review
March 19, 2017
By Michael Li
Mark Grossman's New Book Rips Apart the Image of a Peaceful, Isolationist Canada
Oasis of Sanity: Canada 1931-1978
Mark Grossman, a Toronto native, has gained fame in recent years for challenging historical misconception. In his new book, he rips apart the common historiography of Canada is merely a rock pulled by the currents of history.
The title of the book comes from Former Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King's famous 1935 quote about Canada "being on oasis of sanity in a continent of lunacy", said in reference to the period when the Americas were swept up in the tide of both revolution, in the case of the UASR and Central America, and fascist reaction, in the case of Brazil and Cuba, where MacArthur called his neo-imperialist state "A Refuge of Freedom", and the European powers went into a period of reactionary paranoia, and expanded military presence in their Caribbean holdings.
Older Canadians often keep posters of the quote in their homes, as reminders of the "gold ol' days" when Canada seemingly stood outside world events.
But the image of Canadian neutrality is completely incorrect, writes Comrade Grossman.
Even as the first guns of revolution were fired in the Second American Civil War, Canadians were already having an impact, writes Grossman. Thousands of Canadians would volunteer in the Socialist American struggle, including the famed Dorise Nielsen, whose actions during the Second Civil War led her to be nicknamed "Canada's Jane Schaefer".
During the Second World War, Canadians would find themselves on all sides of the conflict. The (temporary) blacklisted volunteers for the IVA who fought in the harsh conditions of the Atlantic, the often-unspoken volunteers to the Axis powers during the brief period of fascist appeasement. Finally, once the capitalist powers were inevitably back-stabbed by the fascists, over one million Canadians would serve in major theaters of the war, and Canadian wheat would keep the embattled British afloat.
Even after the war, Canadians, though still tied to FBU, still found themselves divided. On one side, Canadian soldiers still found themselves in conflicts like the Horn of Africa. On the other, labor arrest after 1946 would remain a chronic thorn in the side of Canadian capitalists, until the inevitable golden year of 1978.
In his work, Grossman sees a Canada not necessarily as a rock in a wild stream, but a canoer wondering what river to travel by. Grossman explores a nation struggling with identity, never truly taking one side, but still shaping human events. A brilliant, eye-opening work.
4 stars out of 5.
March 19, 2017
By Michael Li
Mark Grossman's New Book Rips Apart the Image of a Peaceful, Isolationist Canada
Oasis of Sanity: Canada 1931-1978
Mark Grossman, a Toronto native, has gained fame in recent years for challenging historical misconception. In his new book, he rips apart the common historiography of Canada is merely a rock pulled by the currents of history.
The title of the book comes from Former Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King's famous 1935 quote about Canada "being on oasis of sanity in a continent of lunacy", said in reference to the period when the Americas were swept up in the tide of both revolution, in the case of the UASR and Central America, and fascist reaction, in the case of Brazil and Cuba, where MacArthur called his neo-imperialist state "A Refuge of Freedom", and the European powers went into a period of reactionary paranoia, and expanded military presence in their Caribbean holdings.
Older Canadians often keep posters of the quote in their homes, as reminders of the "gold ol' days" when Canada seemingly stood outside world events.
But the image of Canadian neutrality is completely incorrect, writes Comrade Grossman.
Even as the first guns of revolution were fired in the Second American Civil War, Canadians were already having an impact, writes Grossman. Thousands of Canadians would volunteer in the Socialist American struggle, including the famed Dorise Nielsen, whose actions during the Second Civil War led her to be nicknamed "Canada's Jane Schaefer".
During the Second World War, Canadians would find themselves on all sides of the conflict. The (temporary) blacklisted volunteers for the IVA who fought in the harsh conditions of the Atlantic, the often-unspoken volunteers to the Axis powers during the brief period of fascist appeasement. Finally, once the capitalist powers were inevitably back-stabbed by the fascists, over one million Canadians would serve in major theaters of the war, and Canadian wheat would keep the embattled British afloat.
Even after the war, Canadians, though still tied to FBU, still found themselves divided. On one side, Canadian soldiers still found themselves in conflicts like the Horn of Africa. On the other, labor arrest after 1946 would remain a chronic thorn in the side of Canadian capitalists, until the inevitable golden year of 1978.
In his work, Grossman sees a Canada not necessarily as a rock in a wild stream, but a canoer wondering what river to travel by. Grossman explores a nation struggling with identity, never truly taking one side, but still shaping human events. A brilliant, eye-opening work.
4 stars out of 5.
Sorry for the late response.
I'm guessing FBU audiences take more towards the Pre-1900 section, and Comintern audiences more post-1900. Comintern might also have an affinity for the Future History section and Shared Worlds,, and perhaps Chat. Otherwise, I think there is likely the same amount of interest in the non-political forums and ASB TLs.
...and I am back.
Here's that thing I was working on:
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Havana Vice
(1957-1964)
Set in both the glitz and glamor of Havana’s casinos (read: a Hollywood backlot), and the darkness and danger of Havana’s slums (read: the same Hollywood backlot with more dirt) the series follows Chico Ramirez (Ricardo Valenzuela[1]), a rebellious and stylish Cuban teen working as a janitor for the UASR Special Interests Section of the Spanish Embassy. One day, he strikes up a conversation with two embassy employees named Schwartz and O’Brien (Efrem Zimbalist Jr. and Chuck Connors, respectively) and after one thing leads to another, he accidentally discovers that the two men are working as spies. He ends up joining their spy ring, and together they protect Havana’s slums from gangsters, business owners, corrupt policemen, and other capitalist pig-dogs, the most infamous of which was casino owner Calvin "Tex" Whitshaw (Slim Pickens) and Sicilian mobster Giuseppe Pericolo (played by J. Carroll Naish).
The show was a major ratings success, especially among the youth demographic. Valenzuela became a major teenybopper icon, and the show’s distinctive Latin and Caribbean influenced soundtrack was a top seller. Critics, however, were mixed, considering that it was mass entertainment in an era of high quality programming from shows such as American Playhouse. Some appreciated the show for deftly handling both comedy and drama, and praised the performances from the cast. Others, however, were more critical, seeing it as a lame attempt to connect with the youth of the day and profit off the exotic locations. Whittaker Chambers of the Labor Literary Review criticized its depiction of Havana as "too clean", while others accused the writers of glorifying the mobsters and slumlords of Havana.
Nowadays, it’s just as fondly remembered for how cheesy it could be. Many Cubans and Cuban Americans have mocked Valenzuela’s performance on the show, and his hesitant Chicano-accented Spanish. Indeed, some of the ‘Cuban folk songs’ that Chico plays were often just Mexican folk songs with Afro-Cuban drums added...or in one infamous case, a contemporary rock song from Peruvian garage band Los Saicos. The formulaic nature of the plots (Schwartz and O’Brien get an assignment on a wire recording from their boss, Valenzuela gets a clue from someone he knows in the slums, a blatantly obvious red herring character appears before being unceremoniously killed, the bad guy of the week turns out to have connections to the Cuban government, the mafia, and/or Whitshaw, he gets 'taken out', the main trio have drinks at a fancy resort, Chico sings a song during the end credits) led to many parodies both then and now. The most infamous was Andy Warhol's HV, an experimental film where several regulars of The Factory acted out the script for the pilot episode, which was filmed in an entirely white room with actors miming their props. As an April Fool's stunt, PBS 2 aired HV in place of a promised new episode, which angered so many fans that one fan group in Detroit held protests outside their local affiliate.
That said, the series did break new ground in many ways. The cappie bad guys were given flaws and depth like the American good guys, and the series never shied away from showing the grim reality of Havana’s slums--in fact, pirated episodes are still hot commodities in Cuba to this day. Despite the dated and cheesy elements, it's still regarded as a classic of American television.
The series has undergone two revivals. The first was in the 80’s, with a short lived sequel series featuring Chico as an American policeman. The second was in a popular film adaptation by Michael Mann in 1993, which was much more warmly received by the Cuban exile community. Billed as a "re-thinking" of the series, the film starred Emilio Estevez as Chico, Dennis Hopper as O’Brien, and Cynthia Rothrock as Schwartz, as they investigate a pan-Caribbean drug trafficking ring with ties to Rhodesian terrorists. Valenzuela has a cameo as a singer at the Oriental Park Casino, who Chico dismisses as "not sounding like a real Cubano".
[1] Ritchie Valens
Here's that thing I was working on:
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Havana Vice
(1957-1964)
Set in both the glitz and glamor of Havana’s casinos (read: a Hollywood backlot), and the darkness and danger of Havana’s slums (read: the same Hollywood backlot with more dirt) the series follows Chico Ramirez (Ricardo Valenzuela[1]), a rebellious and stylish Cuban teen working as a janitor for the UASR Special Interests Section of the Spanish Embassy. One day, he strikes up a conversation with two embassy employees named Schwartz and O’Brien (Efrem Zimbalist Jr. and Chuck Connors, respectively) and after one thing leads to another, he accidentally discovers that the two men are working as spies. He ends up joining their spy ring, and together they protect Havana’s slums from gangsters, business owners, corrupt policemen, and other capitalist pig-dogs, the most infamous of which was casino owner Calvin "Tex" Whitshaw (Slim Pickens) and Sicilian mobster Giuseppe Pericolo (played by J. Carroll Naish).
The show was a major ratings success, especially among the youth demographic. Valenzuela became a major teenybopper icon, and the show’s distinctive Latin and Caribbean influenced soundtrack was a top seller. Critics, however, were mixed, considering that it was mass entertainment in an era of high quality programming from shows such as American Playhouse. Some appreciated the show for deftly handling both comedy and drama, and praised the performances from the cast. Others, however, were more critical, seeing it as a lame attempt to connect with the youth of the day and profit off the exotic locations. Whittaker Chambers of the Labor Literary Review criticized its depiction of Havana as "too clean", while others accused the writers of glorifying the mobsters and slumlords of Havana.
Nowadays, it’s just as fondly remembered for how cheesy it could be. Many Cubans and Cuban Americans have mocked Valenzuela’s performance on the show, and his hesitant Chicano-accented Spanish. Indeed, some of the ‘Cuban folk songs’ that Chico plays were often just Mexican folk songs with Afro-Cuban drums added...or in one infamous case, a contemporary rock song from Peruvian garage band Los Saicos. The formulaic nature of the plots (Schwartz and O’Brien get an assignment on a wire recording from their boss, Valenzuela gets a clue from someone he knows in the slums, a blatantly obvious red herring character appears before being unceremoniously killed, the bad guy of the week turns out to have connections to the Cuban government, the mafia, and/or Whitshaw, he gets 'taken out', the main trio have drinks at a fancy resort, Chico sings a song during the end credits) led to many parodies both then and now. The most infamous was Andy Warhol's HV, an experimental film where several regulars of The Factory acted out the script for the pilot episode, which was filmed in an entirely white room with actors miming their props. As an April Fool's stunt, PBS 2 aired HV in place of a promised new episode, which angered so many fans that one fan group in Detroit held protests outside their local affiliate.
That said, the series did break new ground in many ways. The cappie bad guys were given flaws and depth like the American good guys, and the series never shied away from showing the grim reality of Havana’s slums--in fact, pirated episodes are still hot commodities in Cuba to this day. Despite the dated and cheesy elements, it's still regarded as a classic of American television.
The series has undergone two revivals. The first was in the 80’s, with a short lived sequel series featuring Chico as an American policeman. The second was in a popular film adaptation by Michael Mann in 1993, which was much more warmly received by the Cuban exile community. Billed as a "re-thinking" of the series, the film starred Emilio Estevez as Chico, Dennis Hopper as O’Brien, and Cynthia Rothrock as Schwartz, as they investigate a pan-Caribbean drug trafficking ring with ties to Rhodesian terrorists. Valenzuela has a cameo as a singer at the Oriental Park Casino, who Chico dismisses as "not sounding like a real Cubano".
[1] Ritchie Valens
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Bookmark1995
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I wonder if ITTL there are going to be fictional villains that reflect the evils of Revolution. People who obsess about the letter of Revolution , but not the spirit, and create new kinds of terror wherever they go.
Characters ranging from General Ripper style military loons, to super-villains who were wronged in the past by communism.
Characters ranging from General Ripper style military loons, to super-villains who were wronged in the past by communism.
The Killing Crow, in a few non-Solaris publications of the character, would probably be portrayed as this a few times by the modern day. If you were to parody the character you'd basically have an immortal 'permie' who is so scarred by her PTSD-inducing experiences with two deadly civil wars (including incorporating the later canon fact of making her younger during the Civil War), her own death and rebirth, that it causes her to be unable to disengage from that sort of siege mentality.
I like to think that there is a TL on the alt-AH.com, a kind of combination of League of Extraordinary Gentlemen's incorporation of fictional elements with the real world and For All Time, where she's the Premier of the UASR and has the country engaged in a seemingly endless guerrilla war with Rhodesia in southern Africa. Massive waste of manpower and resources but it's a little hard to assassinate the big cheese if they can just forcibly possess their would-be killer.
Redshank Galloglass
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You could make the Punisher a sort of "villain' for FBU heroes considering his TTL self is a one man revolutionary war machine that has almost a seige mentality towards crime and reactionary thought.
Obviously in the UASR he would be seen as an anti-hero, but it wouldnt be hard to see FBU writers use him or a character like him as a strawman barbarous reolutionary who stands against god, country, king, republique, etc...
Does anyone have any thoughts about post-war economic reforms?
And yes, do you agree with this characteristic of cadarism and titoism?
Bookmark1995
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Which country will be the ITTL Japan: a nation that gains a reputation as an economic giant that lifts millions out of poverty, and that builds the reputation for being full of salarymen: people with an unhealthy dedication to their place of work.
I think ITTL, Reds would think of the salaryman as "the modern-day capitalist slave".
I think ITTL, Reds would think of the salaryman as "the modern-day capitalist slave".
Bookmark1995
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Africa and Brazil aren't places that I imagine would produce salarymen. Maybe India?
Redshank Galloglass
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India is explicitly described as being superpower status. I was assuming that you were referring to a country thst isnt a major milktaty power but has clout in economics.
Maybe one of the FBUs middle eastern allies?