Alternate Electoral Maps II

[killertahu22]

1864:

1868:

Sumner/Conkling: 195/55.1%
Hendricks/Lee: 93/44.8%

PODs:

Due to harsher policies, not as many states are readmitted into the union

Sumner's policies have begun to wear on his Northern base, allowing for Indiana, New York, and Connecticut to vote Democrat

Sumner's second term is largely uneventful and is just a continuation of his previous policies, as well as implementing measures to ensure Southern states cannot negate the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments (voting rights forever!!)

The moderate Republicans have clashed with Sumner's radicalism, which leads to what is basically an inter-party civil war come convention time

 

[Tex Arkana]

Joe Manchin vs. Susan Collins from their positions and assuming every state votes for the closest candidate. View attachment 340004
Manchin: 173, 48%
Collins: 365, 50%
KY, WV, VT, and ME are the biggest wins.

Even though this map is absolutely absurd and never going to happen in real life, even if Susan Collins and Joe Manchin are the candidates, I decided to make a county map for it...

 

[Iustinus Tempus]

Ran a 1872 PI game as a simulator and I got this result
SNIP

I unfortunately dont know a whole lot about the reconstruction era, and i have no clue who Greeley is, or why the "Liberal Republicans" won most of the south, but i was wondering if this was

1) Plausible
2) What effect this would have on electoral politics in the future

Could you tell me what that simulator is called?

 

[killertahu22]

Could you tell me what that simulator is called?

President Infinity

 

[Thomas Johnson]

Even though this map is absolutely absurd and never going to happen in real life, even if Susan Collins and Joe Manchin are the candidates, I decided to make a county map for it...

I think Manchin wins the most counties since Bill Clinton here.

 

[Keeganc2020]

2076 election.

 

[Keeganc2020]

Also at this point there's a better chance of Senator Collins switching to the Democrats or going Independent and Caucausing with then I'm the same manner as Senator King, she's up for reelection in 2020 which as an election year and with the new Ranked Choice voting that's really her only hope of winning another term ...if she just dosent retire, which I hope she dosent she's a wonderful woman.

 

[TheSaint250]

Also at this point there's a better chance of Senator Collins switching to the Democrats or going Independent and Caucausing with then I'm the same manner as Senator King, she's up for reelection in 2020 which as an election year and with the new Ranked Choice voting that's really her only hope of winning another term ...if she just dosent retire, which I hope she dosent she's a wonderful woman.

Ranked voting got struck down, and it probably won't come back. it could, though.

 

[Thomas Johnson]

This would be the tipping point map. http://www.270towin.com/maps/9A7Zk. (Manchin would need to win by .5 for this) And here's a Manchin win by 2 (http://www.270towin.com/maps/GJor0)

 

[Keeganc2020]

Ranked voting got struck down, and it probably won't come back. it could, though.

When did it get struck down , can I get a citation ?

 

[Turquoise Blue]

Joe Manchin vs. Susan Collins from their positions and assuming every state votes for the closest candidate. View attachment 340004
Manchin: 173, 48%
Collins: 365, 50%
KY, WV, VT, and ME are the biggest wins.

Tell me, why would Hawai'i vote for a Republican?

This would be the tipping point map. http://www.270towin.com/maps/9A7Zk. (Manchin would need to win by .5 for this) And here's a Manchin win by 2 (http://www.270towin.com/maps/GJor0)

Still doesn't make much sense.

 

[TimTurner]

When did it get struck down , can I get a citation ?

http://www.courts.maine.gov/opinions_orders/supreme/lawcourt/2017/17me100.pdf

 

[Thomas Johnson]

Tell me, why would Hawai'i vote for a Republican?

Still doesn't make much sense.

Susan Collins is somewhat more liberal than Manchin. Hawaii I'm unsure about, I didn't have very good data for it.

 

[kodak]

Susan Collins is somewhat more liberal than Manchin. Hawaii I'm unsure about, I didn't have very good data for it.

not anymore she isn't.

 

[Thomas Johnson]

Socially liberal

 

[ElectricSheepNo54]

This would be the tipping point map. http://www.270towin.com/maps/9A7Zk. (Manchin would need to win by .5 for this) And here's a Manchin win by 2 (http://www.270towin.com/maps/GJor0)

I think you're overestimating how much partisan re-alignment would take place. In conservative Democrat vs. liberal Republican contest such as Manchin vs. Collins or Baker, most Democrats, even staunch liberals, are going to stay Democratic and most Republicans, even staunch conservatives, are going to stay Republican. A lot of voters have partisan loyalties, and they're not going to suddenly switch like that. The only change I think would occur is the Manchin doing better in the Appalachians (maybe enough to sway West Virginia or Kentucky) and Collins or Baker doing better in New England (maybe enough to sway New Hampshire or Rhode Island).

 

[Thomas Johnson]

I think you're overestimating how much partisan re-alignment would take place. In conservative Democrat vs. liberal Republican contest such as Manchin vs. Collins or Baker, most Democrats, even staunch liberals, are going to stay Democratic and most Republicans, even staunch conservatives, are going to stay Republican. A lot of voters have partisan loyalties, and they're not going to suddenly switch like that. The only change I think would occur is the Manchin doing better in the Appalachians (maybe enough to sway West Virginia or Kentucky) and Collins or Baker doing better in New England (maybe enough to sway New Hampshire or Rhode Island).

This would be assuming no partisan loyalties. What I think would actually happen I posted upthread.

 

[Keeganc2020]

The Great American Eclipse as an EC Map

 

[Turquoise Blue]

If pushed to give a prediction between Manchin and Collins, this is it. Running mates are Steve Bullock and John Kasich.

Notice that most states go for the same parties, there's very few drastic flippings, only Appalachia and Louisiana for Manchin [high number of registered Democrats] and Connecticut for Collins [Historically a Republican state?].

 

[Tex Arkana]

A random county map I made when I was slightly drunk.