Alternate Electoral Maps II
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The map still makes no sense! Party loyalty is a thing! Just because the Dems nominate a rural candidate and the GOP one from the city doesn't mean literally both party's bases fully flip.
Rhad-1972 and 1976 if the popular vote was tied
Rhad
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. These are 1972 and 1976 if they were tied. Mcgovern would have won 17 states. Carter would have won 6 of them. Meanwhile, he carried four of the five most republican states, and nearly won Oklahoma. Party loyalty isn't neccesarily the be-all and end-all of elections.Come on, you can't compare the radical political shifts in bases happening in the 70s to right now when bases have been entrenched and more politicized.
Peebs-Correcting GBehm
Actually, it's just removing 5% from the victor of a state. You don't add 5% to the loser as well. So this would be 2016:
I'm saying that they're not the same. You've flipped them. Even if a rural candidate gets nominated by the DEMs that doesn't mean all of a sudden the plains and South go DEM. It just wouldn't work that way.
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So you just delete 5% entirely?Actually, it's just removing 5% from the victor of a state. You don't add 5% to the loser as well. So this would be 2016:
Anyone else think it might be a good idea to standardize the political party colors for the site? This would create less confusing situations like this and can prevent a possible civil war over colors of choice.
GOLD AND SILVER
GOLD AND SILVER
GOLD AND SILVER
GOLD AND SILVER
No, seriously, yeah, normal America colours (blue Dems) are the best idea IMO. The party logos are in those colours anyways.
alternatively, ive seen Orange and Light Blue and it was really appealing surprisingly
shiftygiant
Gone Fishin'
No, you really don't need to standardise the colour scheme, you just need people to be clearer on what their maps are representing. Given how this is the alternate electoral map thread, trying to set and enforce a standardised scheme is overkill for what is really a big non-issue over how atlas colours, and is overlooking the real issue for one that is barely even worth mentioning.
If people really have an issue, then the complaints should be that the people making the maps aren't actually bothering to put the effort into giving some kind of further information to their maps, because a lot of what has been posted has just decided to forgo even listing the candidates and EC's out of what I can only assume is laziness. On page 2, @Pericles avoided any potential confusion by actually bothering to indicate who was who, something very few posting after them have even bothered attempting.
In my "The Power of Two" third-parties-take-over-main-parties thing, the official colour of the Democrats is red, and Republicans blue.
A standardised colour scheme is not a good idea. People should just indicate what the colours mean.
Gog-Clocthoth-Can't Keep Cool in 1928
Can't Keep Cool in 1928, Wedith a Twilsont
Governor Alfred E. Smith (D-NY) / Fmr. First Lady Edith Wilson (D-DC): 274 EV
President Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) / Judge William S. Kenyon (R-IA): 257 EV
266 to win
Pulled from an old Boston Globe article; here's an extended prediction from Hugh Campbell Wallace Ambassador to France in the final years of the Wilson administration. Dated Oct. 27, 1927.
Supposedly the addition of Edith Wilson would "keep the South solid and insure the Democrats several western states (which Wallace goes on to list and I've highlighted)". Al Smith would "contribute his part in the victory by carrying the East". I tacked Smith's home state of New York on in light of this, since it gives the ticket a narrow win and Amb. Wallace couldn't know how Smith would perform.
If someone has a good source on women voters by state and party at the time; another possible map could be based on Wallace's assertion that "The Democratic party gave women suffrage to the country and [the only female Govs. and Sens. have been Democrats]... women resent being ignored by the Republicans and I am sure at least 10 percent of Republican women voters would be glad [to elect a female VP]...especially one as well versed in statecraft as Mrs. Wilson."
Governor Alfred E. Smith (D-NY) / Fmr. First Lady Edith Wilson (D-DC): 274 EV
President Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) / Judge William S. Kenyon (R-IA): 257 EV
266 to win
Pulled from an old Boston Globe article; here's an extended prediction from Hugh Campbell Wallace Ambassador to France in the final years of the Wilson administration. Dated Oct. 27, 1927.
Supposedly the addition of Edith Wilson would "keep the South solid and insure the Democrats several western states (which Wallace goes on to list and I've highlighted)". Al Smith would "contribute his part in the victory by carrying the East". I tacked Smith's home state of New York on in light of this, since it gives the ticket a narrow win and Amb. Wallace couldn't know how Smith would perform.
If someone has a good source on women voters by state and party at the time; another possible map could be based on Wallace's assertion that "The Democratic party gave women suffrage to the country and [the only female Govs. and Sens. have been Democrats]... women resent being ignored by the Republicans and I am sure at least 10 percent of Republican women voters would be glad [to elect a female VP]...especially one as well versed in statecraft as Mrs. Wilson."
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