Again, Second Great Depression will make abolishing that stuff look nuts.
Would definitely give more incentive to reverse these neo conservative policies than the OTL 2008 Crash
Again, Second Great Depression will make abolishing that stuff look nuts.
Again, Second Great Depression will make abolishing that stuff look nuts.
I'm not convinced. It may take a few decades, but progressive policies don't tend to have staying power.
Authoritarian Left Wing Nationalism?
Doubtful- after Stalin the authoritarian left is literally nazi commies. However TTL has a libertarian ideology which promotes co-operation, direct democracy and mutual aid in the form of syndicalism. In fact I would say that syndicalism could probably be very popular in America, as it has its own national brand (De Leonism) while Europe will probably shift towards social democracy.
It would be very easy to seell De Leonism to Americans TTL based on nationalism and small government values, no doubt exposing the neocons* hypocrisy from right to work laws to taxes and economic freedom.
Doubtful- after Stalin the authoritarian left is literally nazi commies. However TTL has a libertarian ideology which promotes co-operation, direct democracy and mutual aid in the form of syndicalism. In fact I would say that syndicalism could probably be very popular in America, as it has its own national brand (De Leonism) while Europe will probably shift towards social democracy.
It would be very easy to seell De Leonism to Americans TTL based on nationalism and small government values, no doubt exposing the neocons* hypocrisy from right to work laws to taxes and economic freedom.
So it could be a small scale, bottom up, political revolution? Would small towns experiment with DeLeon principals?
after Stalin the authoritarian left is literally nazi commies
ITTL, the Baby Boomers, born in an era of economic confidence and anti-communist hatred, have embraced an ideology that gives yuppie capitalism a moral justification. The Baby Boomers pray to profit and personal advancement. The Gordon Gekko is a man who has a poster of Rand his Manhattan duplex apartment. They're personal carriage is the BMW, they're elixir is wine and weed.
But I think their children, who will come age in the 1980s and 1990s, will inevitably revolt against such shallow values. OTL hippies rejected the "progress" of their parents as vapid and meaningless. ITTL, the vapidity will be more obvious, and thus the urge to resist it will be stronger. If a brutal recession or depression occurs during this time period, this social rebellion will be stronger than ever.
If there is a global recession brought on by McBride and his followers, this social rebellion will only be more pronounced, since young people will blame Rand and her books for destroying their futures.
Depends on how much the resident aristocracy would allow a political revolution.
They could just go to Europe, after all.
So it could be a small scale, bottom up, political revolution? Would small towns experiment with DeLeon principals?
For a political revolution (unlike a social revolution, which goes through the bullet and not the ballot) to succeed you need everyone to respect the democratic will and considering that capitalists sought to overthrow FDR, I don't think the capitalists reaction to an authentically anti-capitalist movement will be friendlier. An attempt at American Pinochet would probably happen in the scenario- people in power are not just going to give up their power unless forced to.
Maybe I'm being too idealistic, but even if syndicalism became a political movement ITTL, I don't think the US Government would try and clamp down on democracy.
Maybe I'm being too idealistic, but even if syndicalism became a political movement ITTL, I don't think the US Government would try and clamp down on democracy.
I don't think you understand how close fucking FDR came to being overthrown in a coup. The only reason it didn't happen is because our guy Smedley Butler outed the perpetrators. Remember, FDR didn't even want to get rid of capitalism.
How do you think the U.S government would react to a movement that directly challenges the old order as we know it?
They don't need to ban elections- the US government crushed syndicalism once through state repression, mass arrests and deportations after WWI. They certainly could do that twice.
First of all, that Plot was never proven beyond his testimony. But I'm not going to get into a debate about that.
A congressional investigation into the matter suggested Butler wasn't wrong but there was no further inquiry into it and many have suspected it never amounted to more than just talk among some rich guys or he overreacted to what he was told. So yeah, borderline conspiracy theory.First of all, that Plot was never proven beyond his testimony. But I'm not going to get into a debate about that.
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A congressional investigation into suggested Butler wasn't wrong but there was no further inquiry into it and many have suspected it never amounted to more than just talk among some rich guys or he overreacted to what he was told. So yeah, borderline conspiracy theory.