I've always wondered why there's no vote threshold in the Netherlands...
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I've always wondered why there's no vote threshold in the Netherlands...
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@Nanwe - your maps have made my entire week.
Christmas is also fairly positive, I suppose.
But mainly the maps.
Christmas is also fairly positive, I suppose.
But mainly the maps.
Thanks haha. And Merry Christmas to you. I'll make you happy again, then. I'm planning on two more maps for the moment, one is to apply my alternate electoral model to Portugal and another one is to map the OTL Juntas Generales' elections in the Basque Country.
The 2008 US election if it was held the day before the bankruptcy of Lehman Bros(September 14). Source, RCP average. Adjusted for the 0.3% polling error the average had.
John McCain/Sarah Palin-Republican: 280 EV 50.43%
Barack Obama/Joe Biden-Democratic: 258 EV 48.18%In total it is a 4.83% swing from Obama to McCain, so all states Obama won by 9.66% or less go to McCain. It applies a uniform national swing. This does not mean McCain would win the election on the IOTL day without Lehman Bros, he was coming off a convention bounce, the debates hadn't happened and Palin hadn't gaffed yet. And many states here are very close, Iowa and New Hampshire are decided by margins of less than 0.15%, so it is debatable whether he would have won on September 14. But this is an interesting experiment.
John McCain/Sarah Palin-Republican: 280 EV 50.43%
Barack Obama/Joe Biden-Democratic: 258 EV 48.18%
Just gonna say this now. Why is it that you guys always make the Republicans as blue and the Democrats as red. I mean Republican Party's color is red and Democratic Party is blue. Just saying since it getting to a point that it seems like people are just mixing it up.
So a lot of us use this website called USElectionAtlas where the default colors for the GOP and Dems are blue and red, and thus our maps often reflect that.
Although one thing to keep in mind is that the American political parties had no consistent colors until 2000 - with news networks during election coverage using whatever colors they wanted.
That's not true- the news networks had standardized their colors by 1992.
It's widely documented as 2000, so you need to prove it was 1992.
The chart here shows it as beginning in 1988, and the article says "But by 1992, networks seem to have mostly settled on red-for-Republican, blue-for-Democrat." On the other hand, it is, as you said, widely documented as 2000.
I wonder if there is one single answer to this - it kind of seems like the scheme displaced the alternatives over the course of the '90s and was ratified by the 2000 election.
Kind of off-topic, but some textbooks I recently looked at - both postdating 2008 - use totally different schemes.
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The terms "red state" and "blue state" I believe originated in 2000, which helped set the current color scheme in stone.
MoralisticCommunist
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Here is the ninth installment in my alternate American election series.
Previous states:
Metropotamia
Alta California
North Carolina
New Jersey
Adams
Alabama
Rhode Island
Sequoyah
Assenisipia has a relatively large name and its impact on American politics is also relatively large. Being the fifth most populous state in the Union, Assenisipia is a crucial state which has won or lost parties the White House before. Located right in the middle of the Midwest the state is called the heart of America by some.
The heart of Assenisipia however is the city of Chicago, which takes up more than a third of the state entire population. This in combination with the Midwest's powerful unions have shifted the city towards the left, leaving the whole state leaning towards Labor more often than not. Despite the dominance of Chicago however the rest of state is afforded large amounts of autonomy with each region having its own governor and mini-set of laws. As such Assenisipia is often called a state of states, just like Texas is.
Similar to Metropotamia the right wing of Assenisipia is split three ways between the Republican party, the Constitution party, and the Social Credit party. However unlike Metropotamia the left wing of the state is even more fractured, with Labor suffering splinters from the United Left, Black Panther Party, and Greens.
While Labor has been in government since 2006, the coalitions it used to stay in power had grown ever more tenuous, being forced into a fragile four party Labor-Green-HU-UL coalition in 2014. With the writing on the wall for Labor's demises 2016 served as the straw which broke the camel's back. Before the election many pundits had predicted yet another four party coalition coming into power, with the three right wing parties combined being estimated to land just 7 seats short of a majority. However with minority turnout down and white turnout up the Social Credit party made an impressive 16 seat gain, nearly doubling their seats overnight. With the Republicans also gaining a sizable 9 seats and the Constitution party gaining two the grand right of center coalition was ushered into power by a razor thin one seat majority.
Government:
Republican - The Grand Old Party of Assenisipia has always proven itself to be a worthy competitor time and time again. Even back in the days of the National Union party, the Republican party would more often than not win control of the state due to the strong support of its middle class suburban voters. However with the shifting demographics of the 50s and 60s Chicago slowly changed into a majority-minority city, resulting in Labor's dominance ever since. Nevertheless the collar counties of Chicago still go Republican more often than not and on good election years such as 2016 the Republicans are even able to win the two northern regions of the Windy City.
Social Credit - A right-of-center party with major national conservative streaks they have capitalized on Labor's inability to end the Second Great Depression, blaming the stagnation on Labor's support of globalism and immigration. Combined with key endorsements from major right leaning labor unions such as Steelworker Solidarity and Polizia di Chicago the party was able to gain large numbers of seats in previously solid Labor areas. Even though the Social Creds despise the Republican party for their "elitist attitude" the Social Credit party leaders are practical enough to realize that getting into government at all is far better than being stuck in opposition for eternity.
Constitution - The largest far-right party of America their all-American mantra has gained them a good deal of support in the "heart of America." Their stronghold in Assenisipia however lies in the East Shore, a region known for its large Dutch population, as well as high numbers of evangelical Christians. Even though they disagree with Social Credit on economics they can still find common ground socially which is satisfactory enough.
Opposition:
Labor - The party of unions they have always held a slight advantage in a state which such a manufacturing base as Assenisipia. While the state has never been anywhere close to as red as Maryland, let alone Metropotamia the fact that Assenisipia has had Labor governments more than three-fifths of the time since 1972 is a testament to their hold over the state. However just like in most of the country, the Labor party of Assenisipia has been in decline and after a decade in government the party leaders expected a loss and already began planning their next move.
Greens - The other social democratic party of Assenisipia, the Greens have found a large amount of support among the younger segments in the state. Being an explicitly socially liberal party, as opposed to the socially centrist Labor party, the Greens have found themselves right at home in Madison and other such socially liberal cities in the Northwest region.
Hispanos Unidos - Gaining the favor of the Hispanic centrist caucus in 2014 wasn't easy for Labor, having won it only after promising large amounts of tax deductions to "ethnic entrepreneurs." With the polls forecasting the creation of yet another four party government Chairman Joaquin Hodge was looking forward greatly to working with the Republicans, provided that they respected "entrepreneurial diversity." This plan fell through the roof when the right-wing coalition took power with a simple one seat majority, leading to the resignation of Senor Hodge who was last seen boarding an outbound plane to Mexico.
United Left - Assenisipia was the birthplace of the United Left, being formed by the Berger faction after the vicious Berger-Debs split of 1912 left the socialist party in shambles. Besides being the founding branch of the United Left it is also the most successful branch, a result of having the support of the Milwaukee Federation of Labor. While the United Left has "disunited" over 200 times as a result of anarchist, communist, and racial splinter groups the party still stands strong to this day to ensure the passage of socialist policies and the expansion of labor unions wherever possible.
Black Panther Party - Prominent in crime ridden Chicago, its continual growth has started to become monolithic among the black youth demographic, converting more and more Labor voters to their cause everyday.
Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
Previous states:
Metropotamia
Alta California
North Carolina
New Jersey
Adams
Alabama
Rhode Island
Sequoyah
Assenisipia has a relatively large name and its impact on American politics is also relatively large. Being the fifth most populous state in the Union, Assenisipia is a crucial state which has won or lost parties the White House before. Located right in the middle of the Midwest the state is called the heart of America by some.
The heart of Assenisipia however is the city of Chicago, which takes up more than a third of the state entire population. This in combination with the Midwest's powerful unions have shifted the city towards the left, leaving the whole state leaning towards Labor more often than not. Despite the dominance of Chicago however the rest of state is afforded large amounts of autonomy with each region having its own governor and mini-set of laws. As such Assenisipia is often called a state of states, just like Texas is.
Similar to Metropotamia the right wing of Assenisipia is split three ways between the Republican party, the Constitution party, and the Social Credit party. However unlike Metropotamia the left wing of the state is even more fractured, with Labor suffering splinters from the United Left, Black Panther Party, and Greens.
While Labor has been in government since 2006, the coalitions it used to stay in power had grown ever more tenuous, being forced into a fragile four party Labor-Green-HU-UL coalition in 2014. With the writing on the wall for Labor's demises 2016 served as the straw which broke the camel's back. Before the election many pundits had predicted yet another four party coalition coming into power, with the three right wing parties combined being estimated to land just 7 seats short of a majority. However with minority turnout down and white turnout up the Social Credit party made an impressive 16 seat gain, nearly doubling their seats overnight. With the Republicans also gaining a sizable 9 seats and the Constitution party gaining two the grand right of center coalition was ushered into power by a razor thin one seat majority.
Government:
Republican - The Grand Old Party of Assenisipia has always proven itself to be a worthy competitor time and time again. Even back in the days of the National Union party, the Republican party would more often than not win control of the state due to the strong support of its middle class suburban voters. However with the shifting demographics of the 50s and 60s Chicago slowly changed into a majority-minority city, resulting in Labor's dominance ever since. Nevertheless the collar counties of Chicago still go Republican more often than not and on good election years such as 2016 the Republicans are even able to win the two northern regions of the Windy City.
Social Credit - A right-of-center party with major national conservative streaks they have capitalized on Labor's inability to end the Second Great Depression, blaming the stagnation on Labor's support of globalism and immigration. Combined with key endorsements from major right leaning labor unions such as Steelworker Solidarity and Polizia di Chicago the party was able to gain large numbers of seats in previously solid Labor areas. Even though the Social Creds despise the Republican party for their "elitist attitude" the Social Credit party leaders are practical enough to realize that getting into government at all is far better than being stuck in opposition for eternity.
Constitution - The largest far-right party of America their all-American mantra has gained them a good deal of support in the "heart of America." Their stronghold in Assenisipia however lies in the East Shore, a region known for its large Dutch population, as well as high numbers of evangelical Christians. Even though they disagree with Social Credit on economics they can still find common ground socially which is satisfactory enough.
Opposition:
Labor - The party of unions they have always held a slight advantage in a state which such a manufacturing base as Assenisipia. While the state has never been anywhere close to as red as Maryland, let alone Metropotamia the fact that Assenisipia has had Labor governments more than three-fifths of the time since 1972 is a testament to their hold over the state. However just like in most of the country, the Labor party of Assenisipia has been in decline and after a decade in government the party leaders expected a loss and already began planning their next move.
Greens - The other social democratic party of Assenisipia, the Greens have found a large amount of support among the younger segments in the state. Being an explicitly socially liberal party, as opposed to the socially centrist Labor party, the Greens have found themselves right at home in Madison and other such socially liberal cities in the Northwest region.
Hispanos Unidos - Gaining the favor of the Hispanic centrist caucus in 2014 wasn't easy for Labor, having won it only after promising large amounts of tax deductions to "ethnic entrepreneurs." With the polls forecasting the creation of yet another four party government Chairman Joaquin Hodge was looking forward greatly to working with the Republicans, provided that they respected "entrepreneurial diversity." This plan fell through the roof when the right-wing coalition took power with a simple one seat majority, leading to the resignation of Senor Hodge who was last seen boarding an outbound plane to Mexico.
United Left - Assenisipia was the birthplace of the United Left, being formed by the Berger faction after the vicious Berger-Debs split of 1912 left the socialist party in shambles. Besides being the founding branch of the United Left it is also the most successful branch, a result of having the support of the Milwaukee Federation of Labor. While the United Left has "disunited" over 200 times as a result of anarchist, communist, and racial splinter groups the party still stands strong to this day to ensure the passage of socialist policies and the expansion of labor unions wherever possible.
Black Panther Party - Prominent in crime ridden Chicago, its continual growth has started to become monolithic among the black youth demographic, converting more and more Labor voters to their cause everyday.
Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
Wallet
Banned
Can you please do Tennessee?Here is the ninth installment in my alternate American election series.
Previous states:
Metropotamia
Alta California
North Carolina
New Jersey
Adams
Alabama
Rhode Island
Sequoyah
Assenisipia has a relatively large name and its impact on American politics is also relatively large. Being the fifth most populous state in the Union, Assenisipia is a crucial state which has won or lost parties the White House before. Located right in the middle of the Midwest the state is called the heart of America by some.
The heart of Assenisipia however is the city of Chicago, which takes up more than a third of the state entire population. This in combination with the Midwest's powerful unions have shifted the city towards the left, leaving the whole state leaning towards Labor more often than not. Despite the dominance of Chicago however the rest of state is afforded large amounts of autonomy with each region having its own governor and mini-set of laws. As such Assenisipia is often called a state of states, just like Texas is.
Similar to Metropotamia the right wing of Assenisipia is split three ways between the Republican party, the Constitution party, and the Social Credit party. However unlike Metropotamia the left wing of the state is even more fractured, with Labor suffering splinters from the United Left, Black Panther Party, and Greens.
While Labor has been in government since 2006, the coalitions it used to stay in power had grown ever more tenuous, being forced into a fragile four party Labor-Green-HU-UL coalition in 2014. With the writing on the wall for Labor's demises 2016 served as the straw which broke the camel's back. Before the election many pundits had predicted yet another four party coalition coming into power, with the three right wing parties combined being estimated to land just 7 seats short of a majority. However with minority turnout down and white turnout up the Social Credit party made an impressive 16 seat gain, nearly doubling their seats overnight. With the Republicans also gaining a sizable 9 seats and the Constitution party gaining two the grand right of center coalition was ushered into power by a razor thin one seat majority.
Government:
Republican - The Grand Old Party of Assenisipia has always proven itself to be a worthy competitor time and time again. Even back in the days of the National Union party, the Republican party would more often than not win control of the state due to the strong support of its middle class suburban voters. However with the shifting demographics of the 50s and 60s Chicago slowly changed into a majority-minority city, resulting in Labor's dominance ever since. Nevertheless the collar counties of Chicago still go Republican more often than not and on good election years such as 2016 the Republicans are even able to win the two northern regions of the Windy City.
Social Credit - A right-of-center party with major national conservative streaks they have capitalized on Labor's inability to end the Second Great Depression, blaming the stagnation on Labor's support of globalism and immigration. Combined with key endorsements from major right leaning labor unions such as Steelworker Solidarity and Polizia di Chicago the party was able to gain large numbers of seats in previously solid Labor areas. Even though the Social Creds despise the Republican party for their "elitist attitude" the Social Credit party leaders are practical enough to realize that getting into government at all is far better than being stuck in opposition for eternity.
Constitution - The largest far-right party of America their all-American mantra has gained them a good deal of support in the "heart of America." Their stronghold in Assenisipia however lies in the East Shore, a region known for its large Dutch population, as well as high numbers of evangelical Christians. Even though they disagree with Social Credit on economics they can still find common ground socially which is satisfactory enough.
Opposition:
Labor - The party of unions they have always held a slight advantage in a state which such a manufacturing base as Assenisipia. While the state has never been anywhere close to as red as Maryland, let alone Metropotamia the fact that Assenisipia has had Labor governments more than three-fifths of the time since 1972 is a testament to their hold over the state. However just like in most of the country, the Labor party of Assenisipia has been in decline and after a decade in government the party leaders expected a loss and already began planning their next move.
Greens - The other social democratic party of Assenisipia, the Greens have found a large amount of support among the younger segments in the state. Being an explicitly socially liberal party, as opposed to the socially centrist Labor party, the Greens have found themselves right at home in Madison and other such socially liberal cities in the Northwest region.
Hispanos Unidos - Gaining the favor of the Hispanic centrist caucus in 2014 wasn't easy for Labor, having won it only after promising large amounts of tax deductions to "ethnic entrepreneurs." With the polls forecasting the creation of yet another four party government Chairman Joaquin Hodge was looking forward greatly to working with the Republicans, provided that they respected "entrepreneurial diversity." This plan fell through the roof when the right-wing coalition took power with a simple one seat majority, leading to the resignation of Senor Hodge who was last seen boarding an outbound plane to Mexico.
United Left - Assenisipia was the birthplace of the United Left, being formed by the Berger faction after the vicious Berger-Debs split of 1912 left the socialist party in shambles. Besides being the founding branch of the United Left it is also the most successful branch, a result of having the support of the Milwaukee Federation of Labor. While the United Left has "disunited" over 200 times as a result of anarchist, communist, and racial splinter groups the party still stands strong to this day to ensure the passage of socialist policies and the expansion of labor unions wherever possible.
Black Panther Party - Prominent in crime ridden Chicago, its continual growth has started to become monolithic among the black youth demographic, converting more and more Labor voters to their cause everyday.
Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
Wallet
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What if you combined the Reoubkican and Progressuve parties? Does it matter if Roosevelt was the nomineeWilson+Debs=
Woodrow Wilson/Thomas Marshall (Democratic)-507 Electoral votes, 47.8%
Theodore Roosevelt/Hiram Johnson (Progressive)-20 Electoral votes, 27.4%
William Taft/Nicholas Butler (Republican)-4 Electoral votes, 23.2%
@Wallet
Taft+Roosevelt= (note that Roosevelt+Taft is just this map but green v blue)
William H. Taft/Nicholas Butler (Republican), 379 Electoral votes, 50.6%
Woodrow Wilson/Thomas Marshall (Democratic), 152 Electoral votes, 41.8%
Eugene Debs/Emil Seidel (Socialist), 0 Electoral votes, 6.0%
Taft+Roosevelt= (note that Roosevelt+Taft is just this map but green v blue)
William H. Taft/Nicholas Butler (Republican), 379 Electoral votes, 50.6%
Woodrow Wilson/Thomas Marshall (Democratic), 152 Electoral votes, 41.8%
Eugene Debs/Emil Seidel (Socialist), 0 Electoral votes, 6.0%
I can see the value in it somewhat when considering how many Western left parties tend to be red, and most right parties tend to be blue, so it remains relatively consistent in terms of ideology. But otherwise, I agree that it's confusing.
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