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And to give a non-Isot map:

1993, the Treaty of Casablanca ends the Nigerian War. The USSA is left with a rump puppet in the South-West while most of the nation falls into Islamist hands and the oil rich south east is given a democratic government. Meanwhile the South African Civil War rages on once more after a five year ceasefire falls apart. Officially the fighting is sparked by Government troops straying across a ceasefire line, but in reality the issue centres around the loss of German support (a scandal involving arms smuggling by German officials via Switzerland tarred every major Germany political party and a naive minor leftist party stumbled into power in the next election, relations with various white colonist regimes in Africa quickly fell apart as did those with Switzerland).

Suffering from humiliation the ruling Junta in the USSA is pushed from power and Herman Godwin edges his way into power. Unfortunately for everyone Godwin is a ruthless and paranoid hardliner who launches a crackdown on civil liberties. There is also a push for a manned mission to Mars, something the Russians have not yet begun to plan (they've had bad luck with Mars rovers), and promises Americans will set foot on Mars before the Millenium is out.

Meanwhile fears over a French collapse put everyone on bated breath when Germany pulls out of her occupation sector. Luckily the French factions are able to retain unity over calling for Switzerland to return annexed lands and a push to invest in rural portions of the country. Russian forces remain in case the USSA tries anything from Brittany.

Sadly Australia's stumbling steps towards democracy and openess are reversed following outrage that they have supplied South Africa with nuclear weapons, though the South African government has been unable to find a use for such weapons when battling against primarily guerilla campaign.

Japan's still being occupied after all these years? Bloody Cold War politics.
 
Does anyone know what are the universal colours of all communist governments such as America, Austria, France, etc ?
Usually we just use red for the big commie bad. Oshron's color scheme TACOS might have some specific country communist colors though.
 

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World-7's I.S.OT.s were Haiti, Ecuador, Niger, Kenya, Mozambique, Eritrea, Greece, Cyprus, Iceland, and Turkmenistan.

Americas
*Haiti: Doing better than you'd think!
*The food shortages and ensuing authoritarian crackdown resulted in quite a few deaths, but those bad times only lasted so long, when the military, underpaid and overused, enacted a coup against the government, and gradually installed a fairly liberal democracy over the span of five years or so.
*It's nowhere as prosperous as its eastern neighbor on Hispaniola was (See World-2), but it's doing rather well nowadays. Most of the Caribbean was colonized by Haiti, or one of its statelets that fled during Haiti's bad times (or, in rarer cases, afterwards). In 2216, Haiti is settling Central America and claiming the Venezuelan oil depots (oil is still a thing in most of the world outside of Iceland and parts of the E.A.U.).
*Ecuador's doing very well. It's stayed a conservative presidential democracy settling South America, and due to being very generous when it comes to settling the land, has spawned few statelets.
*There are, of course, statelets, though. The Quechua state based around Lake Titicaca is probably the most successful.
*The United States exists, founded by a coalition of American tourists and overseas military, around New York City. It's dominated by Iceland, and in fact, it has restrictions when it comes to immigration from literally any other culture. It's almost entirely an Icelandic-American hybrid these days, as it was Iceland that largely funded its beginning, and still does so today.
*Ecuador recently squashed a narcoterrorist regime on the Panamanian isthmus, and, as Port-au-Prince has politely refused to provide the money and effort to annex it, Quito will do it instead.

Europe
*Greece is the obvious power in Europe. When the I.S.O.T. happened, two things happened. There was the obligatory government seizure of the civilian fishing fleet, for one, and for two, everyone breathed a sigh of relief. 'Glad that debt thing doesn't matter anymore!'
*With the debt worries gone, life in Greece improved exponentially, and from there, society progressed.
*Today, Greece is marching forward with a two-pronged settlement strategy. There are the core territories, in the Balkans and Anatolia, and then there are the Mediterranean trade colonies, the closest thing Greece has to a maritime empire.
*The Mediterranean colonies are Greece's attempt to keep its minorities happy, and to prevent the formation of too many statelets, as they all have a high degree of autonomy.
*Greece has also helped Ecuadorian, Haitian, and African peoples rebuild the Vatican, and has purposefully kept their influence out of it. The Vatican is primarily staffed by Ecuadorian priests, and the Pope is from Guayaquil.
*Iceland's had very slow expansion. There were only four hundred and fifty thousand people on the island pre-transit, and they didn't exactly have a full quiver after that. But they've still done good work with settling Fennoscandia and the British Isles, as well as their aforementioned sponsoring of the United States. Iceland has the highest quality of life on the planet, but also a very rigorous immigration policy. Most of their immigrants are Haitian, as the E.A.U. generally snags up the more useful ones from Eritrea or the Nigerien successors. They occasionally accept large shipments of refugees during dark times, and their politicians debating letting in more Nigeriens, but the moderate opinion seems to be that Greece and the E.A.U. have it handled.
*Cyprus was annexed by Greece in the 2030s, and the Turkish state remains under Greek influence. It may not be annexed in a decade, or a century, but it grows more and more Greek with every passing day.
*The Kura river is the spot of trade between Greece and Turkmenistan, with them both having port colonies on their side of the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea respectively.

Africa
*There are two states on Africa that were successful, and two that went full fuckhole (not counting the Greek colonies in the Mediterranean and the Nile).
*Niger, a poor, unstable landlocked state with virtually no access to food that wasn't imported, fully collapsed three years after the I.S.O.T., and hasn't improved very much since.
*The Hausa State wound up being the most successful successor by virtue of having the most of the surviving military on its side, and in the modern day, it's the great power in Niger. It aims to unify what was once Niger under its rule, and now that it has access to the black market, plans to do so by force.
*The Nigerien states didn't even know that there was an outside world until an East African flight surveying West Africa discovered some odd radio signals below (2160s).
*As of the present day, the Hausa State is waging a war against the nomad alliances to the north of former Niger, and now that it's made contact with the outside world, has access to better weapons than homemade guns, crossbows, and machetes. They expect to put down the nomads by 2120.
*The other craphole is Eritrea, which went the opposite way of Niger. Their little dictatorship suffered quite a bit after the I.S.OT., and six hundred thousand of its citizens died post-transit, a third of which was caused by the Eritrean government itself.
*It expanded, however, and lost two fifths of its population as refugees fleeing to the statelets formed in India and Arabia, almost all of which were sponsored by Kenya, and now, the East African Union.
*It never reached North Korea levels, but it came very close.
*Thankfully, the very nature of colonizing and expanding through the virgin earth means that it's very easy to lose control of your citizens. And your military. Colonel Girma Kidane, a charismatic man who was an orphan of political dissidents, found out about his origins, and was turned over the edge by Eritrean government abuse. He had seen rebels lose before, however, and using contraband methods that would have gotten him and his family killed if he were to fail, he contacted the East African government.
*Nairobi gave its approval after several months, and after orchestrating an alliance with several like minded military men, they coordinated their initial rebellion with the East African bombing raids of Asmara.
*East African support meant that the war to create a more livable Eritrea was well in the process of being won by Kidane's faction. And will undoubtedly have the new state under their influence, of course, as are quite a few Eritrean citizens at the moment.
*Kenya and Mozambique were two fairly liberal democracies (for Africa, anyway) and after the initial seafood-consumption fad passed with the development of new farms, they gradually grew closer and closer.
*The East African Union was formed between Kenya, Mozambique, and three statelets in September 2148. It's the closest thing World-7 has to a superpower.
*East Africa's a very globalist, humanitarian state. This is caused by their relations with Eritrea. The formation of an underground railroad of sorts on the Shebelle River to help Eritrean refugees escape blossomed into a full effort on Nairobi's part to create new refugee homelands in India and Arabia, all under their influence, of course.
*East African politicians are the chief proponents for the idea of a United Earth, and given that all remaining nations are democracies and friendly to each other, it's an idea that has traction in leftist circles worldwide.
*Now they just have to deal with Niger. The problem is that Hausa keeps a very limited connection to the outside world. But the development of the Fajira Republic, a Fulani-dominated state downriver from most of the Nigerien successor states, gives them hope for better influence of the wartorn region.
*Oh, and there are the various statelets that formed on the Cape of Good Hope. Most are ethnic and tribal supremacists of some sort, and only Unionist threats prevent them from killing each other. They're largely still under Nairobi's influence, and two have outright rejoined the Union.

Asia/Middle East
*India's the home to around a dozen statelets formed by Eritrean refugees, all of which are under Unionist guidance.
*The Maldives are also territory of the E.A.U., so that they can better supervise the Indian states.
*Turkmenistan, the only Asian state I.S.O.T.ed has moderated since its days of having a president-for-life. It's still a pretty corrupt democracy, but it's leagues beyond what it was two hundred years ago.
*The Caspian kept it fed, and so in the modern day, it has a friendly relationship with Greece, the closest thing to a neighbor it has besides its spawned statelets, it has mostly friendly spawns, and is looking into making its way down to the Karun River to better access the Persian Gulf.
*Mecca was rebuilt by Eritrean Muslims, who decided to go for broke. Literally, as building Mecca made them a Greek puppet for several decades until they broke out of it with East Africa's help. Now it looks like they're falling under Nairobi's gaze.

World
*The East African Union is looking into forming a more permanent partnership with Haiti, which has support among many Haitians, but not as many Unionists, so that particular unification is dragging its feet. If enacted, it would likely alienate quite a few Haitian successors for quite some time.
*East Africa has landed a few rovers on Luna, but nothing more concrete than that.
*Tech is roughly in the 2040s. Space travel is an idea occasionally considered, but outside of satellites for Internet, nothing's really popped up about it. Why go to space when Earth still has resources to offer?
*East Africa, Haiti, Iceland, and Ecuador have a very tight partnership, and should this wacky 'Union of Earth' idea that East Africa's liberals keep bringing up come into effect, it will start there. Greece and Turkmenistan, on the other hand, are still pretty suspicious of the whole idea.

World-8 will contain Brazil, San Marino, Italy, Croatia, Belarus, Zambia, Oman, Denmark, Dominica, and Niue. That's the most populated Europe we've had yet. Questions, comments, thoughts?
 
Japan's still being occupied after all these years? Bloody Cold War politics.
The USSA refuses to leave until Moscow leaves, and Moscow refuses to leave until the USSA leaves. China is staying in because they're a major power too (they're pretty much accepted as number three by most, though Brazil keeps trying to move into that spot).
 
And to give a non-Isot map:

1993, the Treaty of Casablanca ends the Nigerian War. The USSA is left with a rump puppet in the South-West while most of the nation falls into Islamist hands and the oil rich south east is given a democratic government. Meanwhile the South African Civil War rages on once more after a five year ceasefire falls apart. Officially the fighting is sparked by Government troops straying across a ceasefire line, but in reality the issue centres around the loss of German support (a scandal involving arms smuggling by German officials via Switzerland tarred every major Germany political party and a naive minor leftist party stumbled into power in the next election, relations with various white colonist regimes in Africa quickly fell apart as did those with Switzerland).

Suffering from humiliation the ruling Junta in the USSA is pushed from power and Herman Godwin edges his way into power. Unfortunately for everyone Godwin is a ruthless and paranoid hardliner who launches a crackdown on civil liberties. There is also a push for a manned mission to Mars, something the Russians have not yet begun to plan (they've had bad luck with Mars rovers), and promises Americans will set foot on Mars before the Millenium is out.

Meanwhile fears over a French collapse put everyone on bated breath when Germany pulls out of her occupation sector. Luckily the French factions are able to retain unity over calling for Switzerland to return annexed lands and a push to invest in rural portions of the country. Russian forces remain in case the USSA tries anything from Brittany.

Sadly Australia's stumbling steps towards democracy and openess are reversed following outrage that they have supplied South Africa with nuclear weapons, though the South African government has been unable to find a use for such weapons when battling against primarily guerilla campaign.

So how bad are things in the USSA?

How are things in the Philippines, Spain, Chile, Ireland and Mexico?

Tell us more about this naive minor leftist party in Germany.

Anything else going on with the major powers.
 
So how bad are things in the USSA?

How are things in the Philippines, Spain, Chile, Ireland and Mexico?

Tell us more about this naive minor leftist party in Germany.

Anything else going on with the major powers.

The USSA is honestly getting pretty bad on the civil liberties front right now, but there's still enough industry to keep some luxuries available to most. (Sure, the TVs aren't very good and the shows are terrible, but there's one in every house.) So compared to the late 1980s in the USSR the economy is in better shape, there's shorter wait times for goods, and so forth, but the police might be a little more paranoid.

The Philippines aren't great. With a massive amount of population growth and loads of poorly developped islands the system is a little overrun. At least the government is too overstretched to manage much authoritarianism?

Iberia is doing fine. The Basques keep rumbling about separatism, but trade with Europe is going alright. They're not super rich, and honestly maybe a little below OTL for money, but things are spread more evenly.

Ireland continues to get serious USSA investment as a 'model socialist state'. The secret police are everywhere though, to keep it clean and 'proper'.

Mexico is kind of rocky. Long bread lines and similar issues that plagued OTL's late USSR are fully present. Honestly it's pretty close to how Russia was near the fall of the Soviet Union.

The Socialist German League of Liberal Democrats was at about 4th place in previous polls. The Christian Democrats and Centrist Alliance had previously dominated the somewhat conservative German state, while the Southern Progressive Democrats sat in third as a Austro-Bavarian (and Slovenian) focused regional party trying to get Berlin to pay attention to the less industrialised southern regions. The CD and CA both collapsed as they had both been involved in the weapons smuggling (it survived through multiple governments), and collapsed in the polls with outraged German centrists. The SPD were too regional to form government, and so as the only other party with more than one seat in the Reichstag they were seen as the least extreme alternative, but still most of their candidates who stumbled into power had been write ins (the Kaiser and Bundesrat had been pressured by public outrage to force an election less than a week after the scandal broke). Now there's a governing party significantly to the left of the average German struggling to maintain their promises while keeping the populace (and back benchers) happy (meanwhile the CD and CA are undergoing massive overhauls while new centrist parties have emerged out of the various minor parties to gain seats and consolidate). . . . Yes, it is quite inspired by the NDP in Alberta.

As for the other great powers, India is slowly agreeing to work with the rest of the world more closely, and making some efforts to increase their levels of democracy (though they're steadfast on remaining communist). China is continuing to modernise and see living standards improve. The Ottomans are developing Anatolia more. Brazil is struggling between modernisation and environmentalism. The Eurasians are beginning to think the whole 'homelands' idea was a bit of bunk as several ethnic groups now mostly live in 'Russian' cities while several homelands are now majority Russian (though the big ones are still mostly how they were meant to be there's still grumblings about corrupt officials and bribery... think about the most corrupt US state governments). Otherwise though the non-communist world is mostly coming to agree with the so called 'Moscow Consensus' on how an economy should be run: something between want centrist Liberals want and what Social Democrats want.
 
Usually we just use red for the big commie bad. Oshron's color scheme TACOS might have some specific country communist colors though.

I thought it just meant the dominant communist power, not necessarily a totalitarian dictatorship. The PRC colour is a secondary commie power that rivals the dominant one ideologically and one colour scheme has a colour for a tertiary faction.
 
Here's another Isot map, because we clearly don't have enough of them already. For this one, the premise is that all the countries whose names have the feminine gender in Greek and are singular are isoted to a virgin Earth. However, because about 80% of countries are feminine singular in greek, it looks like a few countries were isoted away.

But here's the map, which is 24 years in the future.

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I guess yet another historically persecuted minority now lives in the Crimean Peninsula (first the Crimean Tatars, and now Jewish soviets.)

Crimea was actually proposed as a potential location for the Jewish ethnic republic before Stalin decided on way the fuck out there on the Amur. There was even a small amount of re-immigration from Zionists in Palestine!

The Tatars would presumably have been ignored and quickly outnumbered by Jewish immigrants, or possibly expelled as OTL
 
I thought it just meant the dominant communist power, not necessarily a totalitarian dictatorship. The PRC colour is a secondary commie power that rivals the dominant one ideologically and one colour scheme has a colour for a tertiary faction.
I've seen the bright red used for just generally "the bad guys" before, especially on older maps around here. Then again, I haven't been around here for a while, so maybe the standards have shifted (or maybe I'm just plain wrong! :p) but in any case I think it's pretty clear to see a red country and associate it immediately with "bad guys". There definitely is a strong implication of a red country being a dominant communist power, and to be fair often the "big bad" is the dominant communist power, but like I said, I could be completely mistaken.

The PRC color is a good point that I'd forgotten to mention. (It's hard not to see bright red-focused colors on maps now and not think COMMUNISM! :p)
 
A map based off of a "grab bag" of late 18th century PODs, set in the 1940s. It basically has the UK, Bavarian Empire, Netherlands, Russian Monarchy, Brazil, and the US facing off against the French Republic and Russian Republics. I just don't think I will finish it, but wanted to post it here. Any comments or questions?
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A New Enemy and A New Rival

The 2150's or commonly called in the Western Hemisphere as the "Decade of Fearlessness", showed a lot has indeed changed over the years when it comes to combating terrorism of any kind.

On March 5th, 2151 a prototype of a bomb that is able to destroy an entire city, goes off in the city of Monterrey in Mexico. Killing almost all of the residents, and destroying the major city entirely. This was the first time anyone could even see a small bomb able to be stored in a suitcase, able to destroy a whole single city. It shocked the world greatly, especially decades after mankind have gotten rid of nuclear power and nuclear weapons. But it was seen that many hidden terrorist organizations were still handling them.

The Mexican government responds saying it is an act of war, a war to stomp out terrorism. Many Mexicans were in fear of what was worse to come, and to make it worse the man fled the destruction of Monterrey. However what made it more interesting was that the nation of Antilla was absolutely not afraid of what was going on. As if everything was normal when it came to situations like terrorism. But apparently it was the opposite, Antillan society has evolved to a point of understanding behind terrorism and extremism. And they simply state that the full purpose of terrorism and extremism is basically to make other people fear them. Without fear then they have nothing to fight for.

A month later the Mexican government was finally able to track the man behind the Destruction of Monterrey by satellite and every record and nicknames the guy went by, as well as to monitoring every extremist group in the nation, including groups that are openly racist and homophobic. What came by surprise was the man wasn't even Mexican, he was in fact a Floridian national, who a year ago in 2150 left his nation to Mexico for apparently to recruit more hatemongers. His real name was Percy Y.J. Kinship, and he was discovered to be connected to hate crimes back in his own country that were against non-whites and LGBT people.

Once arrested he was placed on trial in Floridian court, on live-stream by Internet and also television. After the judge who spoken fluent English to him said, "Mr. Kinship, do you realize you killed many innocent people in a city? A whole city you destroyed as well? Do you even realize what your doing is an act against humanity itself?"

"There is no humanity, there is no human race, there is only one race and that is the Aryan race. This world is going to be destroyed like that in the Book of Revelation. The Lord is angered by how everyone abandoned him and his ways toward Satan!"

"Long live our Lord, and shall the Kingdom of Heaven be created!"

"Mr. Kinship, please shut the fuck up, nobody gives a fuck about what you think. Because we all think your an insane man and that is a fact."

After that Mr. Kinship would be days later executed by firing squad by the Mexican government with permission by the Voice of the World (VOW). But even after his execution the issues regarding terrorism was now spreading among people everywhere.

Mexico saw that terrorism 'can' be almost prevented if they begin to no longer allow any refugees from anywhere in the world. Since anyone can basically be a terrorist without anyone else knowing. Taking it far enough to shutdown immigration from the rest of North America and the Caribbean. Mexican government by the month of November would adopt a new and stricter policy regarding immigration, refugee status and even foreign workers.

The Antillan government would then respond to Mexico's recent policy by stating, "Mexico is basically doing what the former nation of Australia did for a while, strict immigration policies and refugee policies. Which we know and understand from our history is that we teach children was that former Liberal Party of Australia was for in support. The Liberal Party of Australia wasn't the definition of liberalism, but ironic just a form of conservatism."

"If it wasn't for our founder of Antilla, Louis Richard Morrell. Australia or even the ANZC itself wouldn't lasted for long into the 21st century. And a cold war between the former SAC would of went hot. Louis Morrell written a book before running for governor-general of the ANZC, Pax Americana, in which he stated that "Republican Party of the US is what led to the Cold War becoming more hotter from the end of the 1970s and into the early 1980s. Reagan and his own foreign and immigration policies is what led to the destruction of America's future as a world power. And Republicans were the ones who expressed hatred towards communism and Russians in general. Due to bigotry from both the USSR and USA, is what truly led to World War III. Which is blamed all because of American far-rightness and Soviet far-leftness."

And it is noted that the Liberal Party and Labor Party of Australia were like a counterpart of the USA's Republican and Democrat parties. Originally the Democratic Party was more conservative, especially in the South US. While Republicans were more liberal by Lincoln's legacy that didn't live long. Over time they would switch places, with the Republicans becoming conservative, and Democrats becoming liberal during the 20th century. In summary to this Antillan children and educators are taught that reason as to why Louis Morrell choose himself to be a candidate for the Liberal Party of Australia, was perhaps because he wanted to make the party become actually liberal. With that thanks to his influence and power, he was able to completely get rid of all strict immigration, refugee and asylum policies. Even going far enough to make visa requirements less strict. As a result this led to the Labor Party of Australia becoming conservative.

The Mexican president would then later respond to the Antillan government by stating "Conservatism is not what led to America's decline or World War III for that matter either. It was all started by false alarm." However the Antillan people ignored the Mexicans' opinions. This would later result in Mexico and Antilla to become rivals in global status for power.

Meanwhile by the mid-2150s in Africa, specifically New Britain. New Britain had become more and more "neutrally jealous" (according to Parliament of Antilla), mostly due to the fact that Australia, New Zealand and Papua New Guinea as well as many other former Commonwealth of Nation members, being able to surpass the British Empire in general when it came to economy and influence. As a result at one point the New British royal family stated that "Australia and New Zealand are still soveirgn countries, this is because they didn't do anything similar to that of the Canada Act of 1981, which made Canada become completely independent from Britain when it came to issues."

"Therefore Australia and New Zealand are still ours, due to the fact you didn't do anything similar to what Canada did. And should we remind you that Argentina and eventually Antilla 'stolen' the Falklands from us. And yet you seem to have accepted that it is rightfully your's. That being said Australia and New Zealand are the ones who betrayed the British Empire."

This would result in the Parliament of Antilla, even the ones who were Argentines, Chileans, and Brazilians (not just Australians and New Zealanders) laughing from this. "And so if you think we betrayed you then so be it. We no longer accept the British monarch ever since 1983, and we became a world power replacing US and UK itself by creating the ANZC. And now we already are united with the SAC in a new vast nation. And now you saying that we the largest nation and world power still belong to you is a bunch of utter shit."

This would later show small but minor rivalry also with New Britain and the Commonwealth of Nations, including Canada, Mozambique, Tanzania, Nigeria, Ghana, and even India to become more negative toward Antilla. But what Antilla stated is right, the British Empire no longer exists, and that idea of having a thing called the "Commonwealth of Nations" is just a successor to imperialism and the definition of neocolonialism.

The 2150's would later be known for Antilla increasing its friendship with the new small nation on the former US East Coast. In fact on July 8th, 2158, the Supreme of Antilla, Jorge de Igo went to visit the Republic of New Jersey (a recent created nation created after radiation in the former areas of the former state dropped, however New Jersey is very poor and developing though). There he would later be known for visiting the small town of Moorestown in the nation, since it is the town that Louis R. Morrell's mother Rebecca Howery grew up in and was raised. And along the trip the Supreme of Antilla discovered that Louis Morrell had many people from his father's side of his family the Morrells' who survived the doomsday in 1983. Apparently even though the Antillan founder never knew or even met his father or knew about his side of that family, he marked that his other side of his family were able to survive generations after WWIII by apparently becoming suppliers of food and medicine to as far south of South Carolina.

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whats the culture of the future for this world.
Depends really. In Antilla is a mix of many cultures mostly Australian, New Zealander, and Latin American. Not to mention most of Antilla's population is multiracial and interracially mixed. But culturally Antilla has a lot of American culture since 1983 due to massive numbers of American refugees.

Religion still exists but it is now progressively changed to be considered reformed "liberal". Homosexuality is considered normal in many nations, in fact it is common for gay and lesbian couples to procreate with the advanced technology that we have now. Most discrimination at this point in society is very rare, but it still exists nonetheless.
 
But here's the map, which is 24 years in the future.
Slow? Mismanaged? Why in two decades have those vast lands not been settled or sliced up? The coasts are excellent for human settlement and the interior for farming and mining. And why didn't the Guatemalns just invade former Chiapas?
 
Slow? Mismanaged? Why in two decades have those vast lands not been settled or sliced up? The coasts are excellent for human settlement and the interior for farming and mining. And why didn't the Guatemalns just invade former Chiapas?

Because for many countries there are closer lands that can be settled. However, once settlement gets going it will happen very quickly. Chiapas was placed at a lower priority than invading Belize and settling the Yucatan.
 
Because for many countries there are closer lands that can be settled. However, once settlement gets going it will happen very quickly. Chiapas was placed at a lower priority than invading Belize and settling the Yucatan.
what about China, then? I don't see why there would be a war between India and China, especially without nukes being used. If not though, why shouldn't the Chinese ignore those areas and simply flood the West Coast?
 
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