Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread

water123 · Oct 30, 2015

Meanwhile, in Crappy Turkish Iphone Game Land...

This is what usually happens when one wins the "CONQUEST AMERICA 1945" map in the game World Conqueror 2. Well, what happens to the Italians -no typo- if they win. I'd honestly love to see a TL set in Occupied Atlanta or Montgomery, especially if it were like half Italicized.

shiftygiant · Oct 30, 2015

SuperFrog said:
What is that map? Hungarian propaganda?

It's a Hungarian Nationalist map asking 'What if your country was unfairly cut up like ours was? Cause this is what it'd look like'

Tallest Skil · Oct 30, 2015

Zaius said:
Here's a similar map. (link because of the size)

Nice of them to grant us the original American claims on Maine, though.

shiftygiant said:
It's a Hungarian Nationalist map asking 'What if your country was unfairly cut up like ours was? Cause this is what it'd look like'

Versailles really was a, excuse me, ‘shitshow’, wasn’t it?

shiftygiant · Oct 30, 2015

Tallest Skil said:
Versailles really was a, excuse me, ‘shitshow’, wasn’t it?

Road to hell is paved with good intentions, my dear Skil.

SuperFrog · Oct 30, 2015

shiftygiant said:
It's a Hungarian Nationalist map asking 'What if your country was unfairly cut up like ours was? Cause this is what it'd look like'

What I thought. I agree with the Hungarians here, they at least deserve the ethnic Hungarian areas in south Slovakia and Transylvania.

water123 · Nov 1, 2015

Here's something: the Armenian proposal for the Armenian state after WWI. It's...interesting, to say the least.

Source

Clandango · Nov 1, 2015

Who proposed it and when? And it does include the areas called Armenia in Turkey.

Tallest Skil · Nov 1, 2015

Clandango said:
Who proposed it and when? And it does include the areas called Armenia in Turkey.

Wasn’t it Wilson, et. al.? Wasn’t there a tiny movement to have Armenia become part of the US, or was that just in the thread here?

water123 · Nov 1, 2015

Tallest Skil said:
Wasn’t it Wilson, et. al.? Wasn’t there a tiny movement to have Armenia become part of the US, or was that just in the thread here?

I dont know about that movement, but if you can find a source id love to hear about it.

And heres more info on it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partitioning_of_the_Ottoman_Empire

Clandango · Nov 1, 2015

Tallest Skil said:
Wasn’t it Wilson, et. al.? Wasn’t there a tiny movement to have Armenia become part of the US, or was that just in the thread here?

No, it was not. For either portion.

Beedok · Nov 1, 2015

Aqua817 said:
Here's something: the Armenian proposal for the Armenian state after WWI. It's...interesting, to say the least.

Source

They should have tried to build Armenia-Kurdistan.

Anekcahdep · Nov 1, 2015

Tallest Skil said:
Wasn’t it Wilson, et. al.? Wasn’t there a tiny movement to have Armenia become part of the US, or was that just in the thread here?

I think you're thinking of Albania.

shiftygiant · Nov 2, 2015

German propaganda map dropped on American's in the Trenches. Obviously fear mongering that's trying to tell Americans that they'll end up a colony, didn't really pay off, but kinda funny given Man in the High Castle. Worlda patch:

Upvoteanthology · Nov 2, 2015

I'd like to see this implausible map be done one day.

empty · Nov 2, 2015

It was rather gracious of the Germans to suppose that Mongolia would have been granted supremacy over the Pacific Ocean.

Beedok · Nov 2, 2015

Upvoteanthology said:
I'd like to see this implausible map be done one day.

I like that they admit the plan involves a bit of a sham.

Tallest Skil · Nov 2, 2015

Clandango said:
No, it was not. For either portion.

Well, it was Wilson. And it was mentioned here (and HAS its own thread, somewhere; vBulletin search is worthless).

Anekcahdep said:
I think you're thinking of Albania.

Nope, but that works, too.

Clandango · Nov 3, 2015

Tallest Skil said:
Well, it was Wilson. And it was mentioned here (and HAS its own thread, somewhere; vBulletin search is worthless).

As the map on that page shows, they were different things. The map of Greater Armenia we were referring to was one with perhaps triple the land as Wilsonian Armenia, and included Cilicia and Azerbaijan. And that post you linked to mentioned it as being practically Alien Space Bats worthy.

shiftygiant said:
German propaganda map dropped on American's in the Trenches. Obviously fear mongering that's trying to tell Americans that they'll end up a colony, didn't really pay off, but kinda funny given Man in the High Castle. Worlda patch:

Tsk, tsk. Looks like Canada has been demoted to province.

mlp · Nov 3, 2015

Very, very rough sketches on how each side viewed the end game of the Japanese invasions of Korea 1592-98:
Initial Chinese goals(~spring of 1593; main point: defence of Pyongyang)

Sino-Japanese negotiations(1593~96; main point: Han River as border)

Japanese war aims(1597~98; main point: capturing 'four Southern provinces')

Clandango · Nov 3, 2015

Ahh, looks like that last war was fun. Seems in the negotiations the Chinese thought they beat the Jaoanese and we're ready to make the Shogun King of Japan as a vassal while the Japanese thought the Chinese were ready to surrender and make the Shogun their Emperor. Or at least according for Wikipedia. Would be interesting for an ISOT that had a Chinese serving Japan meeting a Japanese owned portion of the mainland. And seems the war ended partially because southern Japanese lords wanted trade to start again, with the Koreans wanting to get rid of the Chinese who were as bad as the Japanese.