Alternate Weapons of War thread...

eltf177

During the siege of Petersburg (1864-65) Union forces would take tree stumps, drill a hole in them and use them as improvised mortars since they didn't have any metal ones.

Yes, they eventually burst but were cheap and readily available...
 

weapons guy

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finally giving the people what they want an improved version of the TAC STK

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weapons guy

The tactical stick, also more commonly known by its abreviation the TAC STK. The weapon was designed and first fielded in the mid 1960s by famous Cuban revolutionary Che Guevara. The main idea behind the design was to be able to mass produce a simple automatic weapon that could be produced using simple labor and factories retooled to produce them. The design was also made simple to allow the smg to function flawlessly in any environment with little or no drop in performance. The durability and reliability of the smg led to it being called the AK-47 of smgs. Noteable features of the gun include the usage of 9mm Markarov pistol ammuntiom to keep the recoil manageable, a simple skeleton extendable stock for longer ranges, and an optional forgrip that was included as a standard for Cuban manufactured guns but not every guerrilla group was able to obtain their own. The STK was capable of sustained fire of up to 700-800 rpm and did not have a burst fire mode. (Later more advanced predecessors would include this feature) The gun could also be cheaply and easily made from scrap metal and spare parts from anywhere around the world. (Manufacture by hand and spare parts commonly resulted in guns with lesser quality but the design was simple enough to easily repair and modify) the gun was a great way of putting devestating firepower in the hands of inexperienced combatants and was best suited for a close quarters role.
 

cortz#9

Fenwick said:
The Planet of the Apes prop was surprisingly detailed.
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It's actually an M1 carbine. the first ones were made of metal and painted to look like wood, for the second film, they were made of wood and painted black which made them loo like they were made of metal.

I've thought of buying an airsoft M1 and try to make a replica of the P.o.t.A gun but I doubt I have the skills to do it right.
 
Fenwick

Fenwick

cortz#9 said:
It's actually an M1 carbine. the first ones were made of metal and painted to look like wood, for the second film, they were made of wood and painted black which made them loo like they were made of metal.

I've thought of buying an airsoft M1 and try to make a replica of the P.o.t.A gun but I doubt I have the skills to do it right.
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Well yeah that is how props work. But notice the detail and somewhat interesting design that went into the bayonet? Something we never actually saw beyond one scene.
 

cortz#9

Fenwick said:
Well yeah that is how props work. But notice the detail and somewhat interesting design that went into the bayonet? Something we never actually saw beyond one scene.
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Oh I didn't mean to imply its not an awesome prop gun, it is and its one of my favorites, which is why I'd like an airsoft version.
I just thought the painting process for the first two films was interesting.
 
willyvereb

willyvereb

I invented a railgun technology based assault rifle for my Hungarian troops in a post-WW3 game set in 2050.

Name: FÉG-K42
Type: Portable Railgun, Bullpup Design Electronic Carbine
Manufacturer: FÉG-ARMY
Length: 764mm
Rail Length: 550mm
Weight: 2.95 kg
Standard Caliber: 4x16mm
Power Pack: Detachable Compact Lithium-based CNT Supercapacitor (4.2 kWh)
Max Muzzle Velocity: 1698 m/s for continuous use, 2016 m/s for single shots
Rate of Fire: Adjustable between 60 to 16000 RPM
Feed System: 120 round detachable box magazine

Think of your typical or a bit futuristic looking bullpup assault rifle combined with railgun technologies, commercially available CNT and better energy storage methods.
These are all a reasonable plausibility, the technical background kind of exist even now. As a consequence though compared to the typical "cool" railguns this only offers marginal increase in performance.
Marginal by the views of Hollywood movies, at least.
Because otherwise the capabilities of this gun are nothing less than phenomenal:

  • Fraction of the recoil thanks to the lightness of the projectile and lack of propellant.
  • Yet its speed and other potential effects can make it as lethal if not more lethal than modern 5.56mm NATO loads.
  • Similarly the higher density, lower cross-section area and higher speed allows it to penetrate armors considerably better
  • Ammo weighs roughly a quarter of the original and far more compact = more ammo to use
  • Cheaper and often simpler ammo
  • Almost freely adjustable rate of fire, projectile velocity and other capabilities. It can be personalized to each soldier.
  • The power source's high capacity usually eliminates the need for recharge (and there are several ways soldiers can charge their capacitor if needed-- or just carry a spare or two)

Long story short you won't get a crazy tank-slayer super gun but a reasonable futuristic design which has numerous clear advantages over present day firearms.
It's overall perhaps a plausible design for what we would use in the future.
 
Zor

Zor



In the years after the fall of Daagsgrad the Drow states of Galthirith, Valnothron and Hansoliath had organized small raids against the newly unified state of Infrastructure. Pressed by one of the fairly regular small scale wars with the High Elves and not seeing the state as being particularly important at the time the forces that they sent was small and, after a probing raid on Borogskov by a squadron of frigates which was repelled by shore guns, were limited with raiding merchant shipping and fishermen. To the newborn Infrastructural Navy these raids were their trial by fire in which they proved themselves against foreign aggression and began to develop the skills they needed to fight at sea. To the Drow it was the first demonstration of how Infrastructural Technology would change naval warfare. There were many, including a fair number of senior admirals who were dismissive of the significance of these changes, but never the less there were a fair share of those who were not. There were those who wondered about the possibility of replicating these ships and in particular their use against the High Elves.

As such with various degrees of enthusiasm between 25 and 34 IA six Drow states began experimenting with steam engine technology. The state which made the most headway in this field was Valnothron thanks to the efforts of House Valcas who was willing to invest a considerable amount of their fortune into improving their facilities and in extracting Information from Infrastructure. Even before the first engagement between House Valcas had begun experimenting with steam engine designs based off reports of Infrastructural Paddlesteamers and Railways, starting in 21 IA with small scale prototypes and in 25 IA and government funding moving onto scaling these up. Through their first prototypes were failures by the winter of 28 IA they had managed to put together a working A-Frame engine which they put to work in their ropewalks and similar units being used to other industrial purposes. With the assistance of enslaved Infrastructural Engineers they were able to improve their designs considerably and more importantly the power to weight ratios and began experimenting with maritime steam propulsion in 30 IA. In autumn of 32 IA Valnothron's shipyards launched their first oceangoing steam ship, a freighter which made a transoceanic voyage under steam power in the spring of the next year. Their funding got a boost with the onset of the escort War. House Valcas completed the first Drow built steam powered warship in 34 IA, a small steam powered Brig that the Valnothron navy used for testing and training. In 35 IA they launched their first steam powered frigate and begun work on five more shortly afterward. In 36 IA they made the next step and launched the first non-Infrastructural Ironclad, the Raelthis.

The Raethis was a fairly small ship, being narrow hulled and about 40 meters long not including her frontal ram. Her hull was compose of Cast Iron plating, with with 77.9mm of belt armor above the waterline and 25.97mm of deck plating on her forcastle. Internally her structure is made of a combination of cast iron and wood. Steel was considered as a hull material but doing so was beyond the capacity of House Valcas's arsenal. In total she massed 1,300 tonnes. For propulsion she was outfitted with a double expansion steam engine with a maximum output of 900 kw driving a single prop and could attain a speed of up to 24km/h, though she is equipped with sails and has a runic circle for weather mages. Her armament included Four 20-Vaul Forward guns that had been reinforced and fifteen 10-Vaul cannons (seven per broadside and one aft chase) and a traditional ramming prow. There had been plans to outfit her with new 5-Vaul Breechloading cannons but delays in their development prevented this from materializing. She had a crew of forty Drow sailors, sixty slave sailors and a complement of twenty marines. The crew of Raelthis and the increasing number of steam ships has resulted in an increasing amount of specialization amongst the crews. As such House Valcas has turned to support the position advanced by Admiral Saljias ti'Kalvonin regarding reformation of policy relating to naval slave sailors.

Her name was indicative of her intended function: a sleek hardened arrowhead intended to pierce the Armor of the Infrastructural Navy. After a month of shakedown the Raelthis was committed to the attack on Daagsgrad. While she preformed well ultimately she was sunk under a hail of Infrastructural cannon fire. Even so before she set sail to join the growing fleet a fair amount of information was taken about how this ship worked and was taken into consideration. As soon as she was completed House Valcas received orders for three more ships similar to her as well as an enlarged craft of a similar nature. Her launch has also convinced three other Drow states to either peruse or accelerate their efforts at building their own ironclad warships.
 
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Ironstark

Hey guys :D sorry if this is the wrong place to post it but I was wondering if anyone would be willing to attempt an Air Ministry Specification (design an aircraft) for me? :)
 
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