Greatest 19th Century US President - DSA Timeline

Greatest 19th Century US President in the DSA timeline?

  • John Adams - Federalist - 1797-1805

    Votes: 8 26.7%

  • Thomas Jefferson - Democratic-Republican - 1805-1813

    Votes: 5 16.7%

  • James Madison - Federalist - 1813-1821

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • John Quincey Adams - Federalist - 1821-1829

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • John Andrew Schulze - Democratic-Republican - 1829-1837

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • Peter Buell Porter - Federalist - 1837-1841

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • Pierre Nicolas de Condorcet - Democrat - 1841-1849

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • Benjamin Hull Kays - Federalist - 1849-1857

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • Nicholas Samuel Roosevelt - Federalist - 1857-1865

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • Anthony Wayne Tullis - Democrat - 1865-1868

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • Barabas Lynch - Democrat - 1868-1869

    Votes: 2 6.7%

  • Horace Napoleon Miller - Democrat - 1869-1873

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • John Bertrand - Federalist - 1873-1881

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • James Blunt - Federalist - 1881-1885

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Erastus R. Bingham - Democrat - 1885-1889

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Alexander Poe - Federalist - 1889-1897

    Votes: 14 46.7%

  • Steven Ladd - Democrat - 1897-1901

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    30
Glen

Glen

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This is a poll and discussion for which is the greatest 19th century President of the United States of American of the world of the Dominion of Southern America. If you are torn, you may vote for more than one.

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PS - I have declared by fiat that George Washington was the greatest president of the 18th century.
 
Glen

Glen

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Well, it's slow going this start - Poe is off to an early lead with 2 votes, and surprisingly the only other vote getter thus far is Adams with 1 vote.
 
Glen

Glen

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Glen said:
Well, it's slow going this start - Poe is off to an early lead with 2 votes, and surprisingly the only other vote getter thus far is Adams with 1 vote.
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I wonder if Adams gets the vote in part for bringing the Missouri Territory to the Union by allying with the British in the War of 1804.
 

Cylon_Number_14

I choose John Andrew Schulze for a few reasons.

He set the precedent for acquiring territory through peaceful opportunistic diplomacy without threat of violence. This precedent was then effectively used to get Alaska on the cheap and influenced Morrocco in asking to be a protectorate.

Domestically he was a major champion of good education for all Americans before and during his Administration.

Finally he was the first President not of Anglo descent. This was a major if under appreciated milestone that likely inspired tens of thousands of Germanic, Scandinavian, and even Francophone Americans as it showed that with hard work and talent any career was possible in the USA.

I do accept that Poe might have a stronger claim on being the Greatest. He dragged the USA out of the Depression while keeping the USA out of the war but defying all Eastern threats. And then he somehow managed to shove a massive Humanitarian economic recovery package through Congress that included aide for a couple of the Eastern powers.

In sum: Poe probably deserves the Title but Schulze deserves a second look at his accomplishments.
 
Glen

Glen

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Cylon_Number_14 said:
I choose John Andrew Schulze for a few reasons.

He set the precedent for acquiring territory through peaceful opportunistic diplomacy without threat of violence. This precedent was then effectively used to get Alaska on the cheap and influenced Morrocco in asking to be a protectorate.

Domestically he was a major champion of good education for all Americans before and during his Administration.

Finally he was the first President not of Anglo descent. This was a major if under appreciated milestone that likely inspired tens of thousands of Germanic, Scandinavian, and even Francophone Americans as it showed that with hard work and talent any career was possible in the USA.

I do accept that Poe might have a stronger claim on being the Greatest. He dragged the USA out of the Depression while keeping the USA out of the war but defying all Eastern threats. And then he somehow managed to shove a massive Humanitarian economic recovery package through Congress that included aide for a couple of the Eastern powers.

In sum: Poe probably deserves the Title but Schulze deserves a second look at his accomplishments.
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I think that was very well said, Cylon_Number_14!
 
Umbric Man

Umbric Man

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I almost imagine Poe saying 'never more' in response to the horrors of the Global War as he sends humanitarian aid, and that becoming a famous quote attributed to him as an amusing Allohistorical Allusion....

Also, needless to say, you can see whom I voted for then, heh.
 
Glen

Glen

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Umbric Man said:
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I almost imagine Poe saying 'never more' in response to the horrors of the Global War as he sends humanitarian aid, and that becoming a famous quote attributed to him as an amusing Allohistorical Allusion....
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Oh ho, that's a good one!

Also, needless to say, you can see whom I voted for then, heh.
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Noted, noted....
 
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