Japan loses in 1895
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Grey Wolf
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1894 Sino-Japanese War
China had a slim possibility of winning; in the end it came down to control of the seas and on paper China had something of a formidable fleet. Unfortunately in reality it was not as useful as it should have been - for example not all shells were filled with explosive, some were filled with sawdust or paint to save money, or more likely because the money wasn't there at all as the Empress had taken it to build a giant marble boat with ! Even so, the first battle at the Yalu could have been won, but the Chinese deployment on line ABEAM and the fact that the first Chinese shot in the battle blew their own admiral up was not a good position to begin in !
Grey Wolf
China had a slim possibility of winning; in the end it came down to control of the seas and on paper China had something of a formidable fleet. Unfortunately in reality it was not as useful as it should have been - for example not all shells were filled with explosive, some were filled with sawdust or paint to save money, or more likely because the money wasn't there at all as the Empress had taken it to build a giant marble boat with ! Even so, the first battle at the Yalu could have been won, but the Chinese deployment on line ABEAM and the fact that the first Chinese shot in the battle blew their own admiral up was not a good position to begin in !
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Chris
Banned
Assuming a chinese victory:
-Japan gets kicked out of Keora. Japan's postion is weakened and she has no basis for being considered equal.
-China gets burst of nationalism. This may avert part of the boxer rebellion, or it may strenthen it. Expect the chinese to become tougher sooner.
-If there is a Boxer Rebellion, I'd expect Japan to attemt to become involved sooner and esscentally grab back Keroa. The other powers might not allow that to happen, though.
-Western powers might be concerned at the new signs that china has showed of strenth and will press their own demands. China may have to fight at some point, which will be a harder war than the Boxer one as the chinese will know that they CAN win.
Chris
-Japan gets kicked out of Keora. Japan's postion is weakened and she has no basis for being considered equal.
-China gets burst of nationalism. This may avert part of the boxer rebellion, or it may strenthen it. Expect the chinese to become tougher sooner.
-If there is a Boxer Rebellion, I'd expect Japan to attemt to become involved sooner and esscentally grab back Keroa. The other powers might not allow that to happen, though.
-Western powers might be concerned at the new signs that china has showed of strenth and will press their own demands. China may have to fight at some point, which will be a harder war than the Boxer one as the chinese will know that they CAN win.
Chris
If the Russians were to win the Russo-Japanese war, then perhaps the Russians wouldn't allow the Japanese to invade Manchuria in the 30s.
If my memory serves me right, I think it was the Japanese that ask the US to help mediate and end the war, since they were running low on resources to continue a large scale war with Russia. So yeah, I think the Russians could of probably beat them if the war was to keep going.
If my memory serves me right, I think it was the Japanese that ask the US to help mediate and end the war, since they were running low on resources to continue a large scale war with Russia. So yeah, I think the Russians could of probably beat them if the war was to keep going.