worst Presidential Succession possible

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by black angel, Jul 8, 2009.

  1. black angel Gay-Jew

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    covering all of US Presidential history from April 30th 1789 to today what is the worst possible Presidential Succession? (Ie the President is dead and what happens after that)
     
  2. farwalker I can see your house from here

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    That's fairly easy, just follow present history until 2005, then have W. die in "mysterious circumstances and have Cheney take over....

    The very thoguht of it sends shivers down my spine...
     
  3. Troyer IV Instant Pirate - Just Add Rum

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    Well, let's say Obama LOST to McCain. Then have the old fart die from a heart attack or something... then you'll be saying "President Palin."

    Beat that!
     
  4. black angel Gay-Jew

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    i'd think the Lincoln assassination going off as planed leading to the death of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, William H. Seward, and U.S. Grant would be worse than have Dick Cheney as president, or President Palin
     
  5. Alberto Knox Incurable Intellectual

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    As two great Tls have shown:

    • The death of FDR in Dec 1941 and the accession of Henry Wallace
    • The death of Jefferson in 1809 leading to DOD
     
  6. Wolf Free Kilny!

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    How about this one. In 2003 Bush chokes on a pretzel and dies. Cheney goes into cardiac arrest the next day. Dennis Hastert suffer from a clot that leaders to an aneurysm and we get President Ted Stevens.


    Or Nixon dies, Agnew resigns, Albert dies, and we get President Eastland and we all know what happens then.
     
  7. Lugal Well-Known Member

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    No mention of GHW Bush dying and we get President Quayle?
     
  8. black angel Gay-Jew

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    ya the word ends, speaking of the end of the world, WI Cuban Missile Crisis, becomes the Cuban Missile War, DC is hit, President John F. Kennedy, Vice President Lyndon Baines Johnson, Speaker of the House John William McCormack, and Presidents pro tempore of the Senate Carl Hayden a long with most of the government are killed :eek:
     
  9. Japhy Second Best Poster on the Site

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    Just think about what happens if Washington dies in his first term, and we have John Adams as president earlier. Some might not think that a problem, but consider what kind of Precedents that would set on early American Democracy.
     
  10. black angel Gay-Jew

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    funny you should bring that up.........
     
  11. Wolf Free Kilny!

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    Balkanize me!
     
  12. Magniac I believe that we can username

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    James Buchanan dies shortly after the general election of 1860, leading new President John C. Breckinridge to decide that steps must be taken to prevent the horrid Mr Lincoln taking power next March with the powers of a dictator.
     
  13. Mark E. Well-Known Member

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    Spiro Agnew's tax fraud is not revealed until after he assumes the presidency upon Nixon's resignation. In terms of real historical potential, I would say Spiro Agnew.

    I do not think George Eastland is likely, because if he becomes next in line for the presidency, the senate can quickly name a different president pro-tempore. It is tradition, not a requirement, that the position goes to the most senior senator of the majority party.
     
  14. Wolf Free Kilny!

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    Well this was a TL and it all happened in a space of a week or so.
     
  15. black angel Gay-Jew

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    http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=76630

    read it!
     
  16. bobbis14 Liberal backslider

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    Bloody hell did Bush prevent a plane crash the day before because this sounds like Final destination
     
  17. Mark E. Well-Known Member

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    I did read that thread. It describes how George Eastland might assume the presidency in a time of intense turmoil and disaster. The thread is a great example of Murphy's Law, but in a more conventinal setting, I think the senate would have acted differently and put somebody else in line.
     
  18. black angel Gay-Jew

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    IDK if they can, is there a way to remove the President Pro-tempore? has one ever stepped down? and wouldn't switching it up be something of a problem? I mean you'd accused of making a president in waiting, messing with the system?
     
  19. Mark E. Well-Known Member

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    The VP is a "president in waiting," so to speak. It is entirely within the constitution for the house and senate to manipulate the leadership as they see fit.

    The senate elects the PPT from within. There is no system of tenure. Had Strom Thurmond become next in line during the Bush administration, I am sure the republicans would have moved John McCain into the PPT spot. They can always switch back when a new VP and house speaker is named.

    I think it might be possible for a PPT to step down from that position and still remain in the senate. The PPT spot would be vacant. Instead of Thurmond, Secretery of State Colin Powell would be next in line.
     
  20. KingMississippi Monarch of the Royalist South

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    Dont yall mean James Eastland (D - MS)?