U.S. Navy SEALs Vs. British SAS

[The Dean]

Who would be refereeing the international hardest bar fighters of all time comntest? Some kind of unholy international union of barkeeps and landlords? 'cos if not my money is on them... or pirates. 90% of pirates are weened straight off breast milk and on to rum and fighting.

Well traditionally the big hearted, and chested, madam of the local house of pleasure picks the winner of the barroom brawl as her escort for the night.

Oh and by the way why has nobody mentioned the Spetznaz yet as a contender in the sub-plot of the bar brawl thread? They were as good as the other units that have been mentioned.

 

[Caledor]

is it so that the Spetznaz are not a specific military unit but just a general reference to all kinds of Russian/Soviet special forces?

 

[Kevin in Indy]

I don't know any more than I read or watch in fiction, but I'll throw in with the SAS just because I suspect they average tougher to start with.

 

[kojak]

is it so that the Spetznaz are not a specific military unit but just a general reference to all kinds of Russian/Soviet special forces?

Correct. 'Spetznaz' is a general term for special forces, not an actual unit. Closest thing the Russians have to the SAS, etc, is Alfa group or Spetsgruppa A, IRC.

 

[Jason]

True- assuming you're referring to the huscarls of the Anglo-Saxon kings, or the Varangian Guard who performed pretty much the same function. The Anglo-Saxon huscarls also seem to have been more disciplined than most mediaeval infantry.

Indeed I was, though I would also say the Danish originals were just as impressive.

 

[werd93]

In a battle between a U.S. Navy SEAL tema (i.e. 120 men) against a comparatively-sized force of British SAS, who would emerge the victor? Both are armed and equipped in their respective fashion and the battle takes place in... well, wherever.

Baised on research I have done, there aren't even 100 SAS Soilders
so if you got an even match going X# of SEALs vs X# of SAS
here's what you would expect
Well the SAS is divided into to four Troops: (Primarily ways of insertion)
Air Troop
Boat Troop
Mobility Troop
Mountain Troop
The SEALs are broken up into SEAL Teams, but they do not differ much
Each Seal however is trained for insertion by Air Sea and Land

Off the bat the SAS would have the advantage
SAS soilders are specialy qualified in one area(but are trained in all)
SAS would have more specificly qualified men for the insertion part of the attack
The SAS could then set up their Machine guns and mortars
and the SEALs would not be far behind
but since the SAS already have their mortars set up they would be one the ones favored to win

but all things considered
any soilder in any special forces regiment is not a... super infantryman(yes they must be a good infantry soilder, but elite regiments like the SAS don't carry out infantry assignments)they carry out more sensitive ones (such as hostage rescue, snatch and goes, recon, ect.)
these guys don't go in kill 'em all and get out
they go in swift, do there job, and get out before anyone knows what happened

 

[Fellatio Nelson]

Baised on research I have done, there aren't even 100 SAS Soilders

Then your research is poor. There are far more than 100 SAS Soilders.

Well the SAS is divided into to four Troops: (Primarily ways of insertion)
Air Troop
Boat Troop
Mobility Troop
Mountain Troop

Yes, but only organisationally so you have teams available who're immediately acclimatised to and equipped for such operations. They are not limited to these roles.

but elite regiments like the SAS don't carry out infantry assignments) they carry out more sensitive ones (such as hostage rescue, snatch and goes, recon, ect.)

They do, but not conventional infantry assignments because it's a waste of their talent.

The SAS has recently worked in large scale operations.

these guys don't go in kill 'em all and get out

In conjunction with para support they did that in Sierra Leone in 2000; killed several hundred African-junky types who were holding UN hostages for the loss of one DOW.

they go in swift, do there job, and get out before anyone knows what happened

And then write a series of awful books about it.

 

[Wanderlust]

And then write a series of awful books about it.

'Britain's original SAS hero' according to my bus stop about the latest book.

No-one's heard of David Stirling, then?