U.S. Navy SEALs Vs. British SAS

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by Anaxagoras, Jun 9, 2008.

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SEALs Vs. SAS! Who wins?

  1. U.S. Navy SEALs

    14 vote(s)
    13.9%
  2. British SAS

    74 vote(s)
    73.3%
  3. Draw

    9 vote(s)
    8.9%
  4. Both sides wiped out

    4 vote(s)
    4.0%
  1. Anaxagoras 21st Century Jeffersonian

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    In a battle between a U.S. Navy SEAL tema (i.e. 120 men) against a comparatively-sized force of British SAS, who would emerge the victor? Both are armed and equipped in their respective fashion and the battle takes place in... well, wherever.
     
  2. Captain America Well-Known Member

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    US Seals would win
     
  3. Puget Sound Stewart Brand Is Right!

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    This sounds like a Clive Cussler novel I read that had this same situation (I can't remember the title, through).
     
  4. Anaxagoras 21st Century Jeffersonian

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    Night Probe. One of his best works, in my opinion.
     
  5. Hannibal.Caesar Well-Known Member

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    Wrong forum for something like this ... put it in chat, I suppose.

    In any case, I think it's extremely difficult to compare special operations groups in an objective way. Every team has its own way of doing things, not to mention the distinct reasons that each exist. The SEALs, the SAS, Sayeret Matkal, GIS, Marine Recon, GIGN, USAF Pararescue, the USCG AST teams, etc. all have a particular reason why they were created and often have organization-specific ways of ingress, operations, and egress. IMHO you can't make blanket assumptions like, "the SEALs are better than the SAS!" unless you have insider knowledge of how they do things. If that was the case, chances are you wouldn't be posting here.
     
  6. The Dean No Pain No Pain

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    The SAS would correctly identify the SEAL team and avoiding discovery avert the conflict. ;)
     
  7. EmptyOne Re-Booted

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    Personally, I think they'd correctly identify each other and proceed to cooperatively take over a small, under-militarized nation ... like Canada.
     
  8. Krall Hello, euio.

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    Agreed, they're meant for different sorts of missions. A better 'fight' would be between Delta Force and the SAS, since Delta Force is based off the SAS and is meant for the same type of missions.
     
  9. Chris Banned

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    Natually, I voted for Britain;)

    More seriously, as others have pointed out, what reason do they have to fight? I don't mean a war - that's assumed by the OP - but the situation; they're not matched.

    Chris
     
  10. The Dean No Pain No Pain

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    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
     
  11. Anaxagoras 21st Century Jeffersonian

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    Quit ruining my fun!
     
  12. Shimbo The Whisper of Death

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    As noted, that was Night Probe. It was Royal Marines (and a character who is supposed to be James Bond) vs US Marines (and Dirk Pitt) IIRC.

    It is one of Clive Cussler's better works IMO.

    It's also rubbish IMO. As it says on Wikipedia "Criticism (of the book) revolves around the primary plot point, the sale of Canada to the United States by Great Britain. The book fails to reconcile the fact that at the time of the (supposed) Treaty, Canada was a British Dominion with its own government, and as a result would not have been in a position where it could have been sold to the USA by Great Britain."

    Which is all a bit OT.:p

    IMO the SAS and SEALs would never have some kind of large scale stand up fight (even given the obvious problem of why) because large scale stand up fights are not their role.

    Also the SBS is the British equivalent to the SEALs anyway. Delta Force is the SAS equivalent IIRC.

    Something like US Marines vs Royal Marines or US paratroopers vs British paratroopers would be a better comparison (if you like that sort of thing).

    BTW this is an interesting article on the differences between US and British SF as demonstrated in Iraq: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2461368.ece
     
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  13. Hawkeye jimmie status: rustled

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    The SEALs will kick ass.
     
  14. Hannibal.Caesar Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but that's something that you're going to have to live with on this forum. People are going to relentlessly overanalyze your post until it dies. It's just the way it is.
     
  15. The Dean No Pain No Pain

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    Yea, each others, while the SAS piss themselves laughing. :p
     
  16. Fellatio Nelson Tal, tywyll a gyda pants ar

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    These statements convince me far more than documentary evidence ever could.
     
  17. Doctor What Charismatic Cult Leader

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    Night Probe. Best Work.

    :eek::eek::eek::eek:

    ~looks suspiciously at Anaxagoras~

    Glue is NOT for sniffing....

    Shush Fell--you're ruining the Americans' wank-fun again...
     
  18. Berra Friendly Pitchfork Operator

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    Thande will kill both with accidental toxic spill. :p
     
  19. kojak Well-Known Member

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    It goes against my very British essence to say: the SEALs would win, I guess. As far as I know, the SAS isn't geared towards or trained for large scale engagements such as this, whilst the SEALs are.
     
  20. Hannibal.Caesar Well-Known Member

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    AFAIK the SEALs aren't either. As far as I'm concerned part of the entire mission of special operations is to avoid large-scale engagements.