This makes no sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvJ36Rbgc6U&list=UUFzCNS0YAFJ1swdE6RZXdzw&index=10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvJ36Rbgc6U&list=UUFzCNS0YAFJ1swdE6RZXdzw&index=10
I wouldn't call it pure hogwash in the case of TL-191. For all its faults, Turtledove's series at least gets it right that an independent CSA would be a monstrous state, outclassed by its northern neighbor and trending towards despotism, whether it manumitted slaves into a position of non-citizen quasi-slaves or not.I wouldn't go so far as to condemn all AH works where the CSA wins its independence. Southern victory was most unlikely, but not outright impossible. The truth is that the South could afford very few mistakes, and it made too many too early in the war to recover from. Ergo, the realism of the South winning independence depends on where the POD is...
But I would agree that a lot of these books and stories are just exercises in neo-Confederate mutual masturbation. Just for starters, any scenario that envisions the South winning the war and then abolishing slavery within at least two generations of the war is a fantasy trying to confirm the lie that the war wasn't fought over slavery.
The notion that the people who fought, suffered, and died in such huge numbers to secure the Southern slave culture would simply give it away of their own volition at some future date incinerates any willful suspension of disbelief, nevermind basic historic plausibility. That makes Harry Turtledove's "Southern Victory" series pure hogwash too, by the way, and it is pure hogwash. "Master of Alternate History" my ass...
I wouldn't call it pure hogwash in the case of TL-191. For all its faults, Turtledove's series at least gets it right that an independent CSA would be a monstrous state, outclassed by its northern neighbor and trending towards despotism, whether it manumitted slaves into a position of non-citizen quasi-slaves or not.
Greetings,
I thought I share what I think are just sloppy and lazily constructed alternate timelines made for various medias. Two come to mind...
Rex Mundi - this is a shame, because I heard good things about this supernatural/Da Vinci Code-ish comic book series. But the divergence point for this world is that Martin Luther was assassinated by the Church before the Reformation could really take hold; however, Europe looks too much like OTL 1900s Europe and there is even a Confederate States of America and Federal Republic of America in this timeline. How can 19th century United States exist in a world where protestantism didn't take hold in England?
Code Geass - This is everywhere on the map. There are three distinct divergences; first when the Britons repelled the Roman Empire, second when Elizabeth I had a son to call an heir, and third when the American Revolution was crushed by the British. Then there's Napoleon chasing the absolutist British royal family from the British Isles to the Americas, or "Britannia". This seems rather implausible. But not as much as Ben Franklin being bribed with an earldom; it doesn't matter what he's like in real life, he would never be that big of a douche.
What you you call sloppy AUs?
Nothing from him does, honestly.
That is true. If something is cool and fleshed-out and implausible, it is better than just having Thr Socialist World Republic every time.
But as I said, someone should make high-quality AH power points.
I've wanted to do something like that, but I wouldn't know where to start or what to say, and I don't have a lot of time for that anyway, given how behind I am on my TLs.
Anything by alternatehistorypt. Socialist wanks almost EVERY video, proof that he runs a handwavium mine, blatant lack of research, and lack of familiarity with the English language.
It makes me cringe.
There was actually a thread about this video some years back. I saw it once and looking back, its kinda hard to believe people got so upset about it, since its not even supposed to be taken seriously as AH and all.
Oh, aside from the goofy history, one of the funniest parts is how it's the same actor playing each of the news guys in every single shot.
I would of thought that the 'Slightly more seriously...' line of the very next sentence would kind of suggested that I wasn't being all that serious, but I guess not for everyone. Eh.I'm hoping that is you trying to be humorous because it's one of the best TLs on the board and is in no way shape or form an ameriscrew...
Also, for those who have some time to kill, you can watch it all on YouTube, if you'd like. Here:
CSA: The Movie
I don't think it counts if the implausibility is deliberate.
I think it's because that, despite the fact it isn't really meant to be alternate history, it does attempt to use counter-factuals to prove that the world would be a worse place without America, and does so terribly.
A World Without America: Butterfly Extinction, Soviet Domination, and Eternal Youth.