the best movies never made
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Cowboy Bebop - the Movie: Groovy japanese animation movie about Jhonny Cash, the famous Blues singer from Arkansas.
NapoleonXIV
Banned
Brokeback Mountain
Based on Churchill's famous quote, "....we will break the back of this invasion on a mountain of brave, English dead if necessary....". The repulsion of Operation Sealion and the Battle of Dover. Considered groundbreaking in the "terrifying and bloody reality" of its depiction of modern warfare
Based on Churchill's famous quote, "....we will break the back of this invasion on a mountain of brave, English dead if necessary....". The repulsion of Operation Sealion and the Battle of Dover. Considered groundbreaking in the "terrifying and bloody reality" of its depiction of modern warfare
Max Sinister
Banned
Elidor said:
*g* I have to admit that I didn't really think about that aspect... but it's indeed funny.
A movie or TV miniseries I would love to see made
I guess this is the right thread to post this in.
There is a series of books I have always felt would make a beautiful TV miniseries, probably better spread out in a made for TV miniseries than a movie.
In the late 1940's a lady named Elswyth Thane wrote a series of 7 books called The Williamsburg Novels, set obviously in Williamsburg, Virginia.
The series begins in 1774 when Jullian Day comes from London, England to be the new schoolmaster. He makes friends with a gentleman, St. John Sprague, and also with a young lady, Tabitha (Tibby) Mawes. The first book follows them through the Revolutionary War and the end of the book concentrates on the battle of Williamsburg then the Battle of Yorktown ending the Revolutionary War.
By the second book, Jullian Day had married Tibby Mawes and their children were now grown. Also, St. John Sprague and his sister had both married and had families who were now grown and these offspring, the two families the Day's and the Sprague's had intermarried.
The rest of the series follows their decendents down over the years, through the Civil War and the years after the war, then through the first decades of the 20th Century.
The last book is set in 1940. Jullian Day's decendent Jeff Day is a young American reporter based in London. Jeff now owns the house in Williamsburg that Julian and Tibby had owned. Years earlier a member of this family had married an Englishman and moved to London. Her teenage granddaughter Mab has always been especially close to Jeff Day. Also, Mab has always had a strange kind of obsession with Williamsburg, not restored Colonial Williamsburg of the 1940's but Williamsburg or the 1770's and 80's.
During the bombing of London the family takes shelter in the cellar, and Mab begins having flashbacks to the battles of Williamsburg and Yorktown. In her fright Mab grabs hold of Jeff but calls him Jullian.
Another relative from England has married her third cousin a Sprague from Williamsburg. They visit Wiliamsburg taking her through the Historic Area, then they visit Jeff's house which had belonged to Jullian and Tibby. Everyone had known for a long time how much Jeff looked like the portrait of their ancestor Jullian. But what this British relative also noticed was how much Mab was the image of a protrait of their ancestor Tibby.
With the bombing of London, it was decided that Mab needed to be brought to safety in America. Mab and her grandmother come to Williamsburg and stay at Jeff's house where Mab finds herself in the portrait of her Great Great Great Grandmother Tibby.
It is a hauntingly beautiful series of books which I have enjoyed over the years, and it would make a beautiful TV miniseries that also has an historical overview.
I guess this is the right thread to post this in.
There is a series of books I have always felt would make a beautiful TV miniseries, probably better spread out in a made for TV miniseries than a movie.
In the late 1940's a lady named Elswyth Thane wrote a series of 7 books called The Williamsburg Novels, set obviously in Williamsburg, Virginia.
The series begins in 1774 when Jullian Day comes from London, England to be the new schoolmaster. He makes friends with a gentleman, St. John Sprague, and also with a young lady, Tabitha (Tibby) Mawes. The first book follows them through the Revolutionary War and the end of the book concentrates on the battle of Williamsburg then the Battle of Yorktown ending the Revolutionary War.
By the second book, Jullian Day had married Tibby Mawes and their children were now grown. Also, St. John Sprague and his sister had both married and had families who were now grown and these offspring, the two families the Day's and the Sprague's had intermarried.
The rest of the series follows their decendents down over the years, through the Civil War and the years after the war, then through the first decades of the 20th Century.
The last book is set in 1940. Jullian Day's decendent Jeff Day is a young American reporter based in London. Jeff now owns the house in Williamsburg that Julian and Tibby had owned. Years earlier a member of this family had married an Englishman and moved to London. Her teenage granddaughter Mab has always been especially close to Jeff Day. Also, Mab has always had a strange kind of obsession with Williamsburg, not restored Colonial Williamsburg of the 1940's but Williamsburg or the 1770's and 80's.
During the bombing of London the family takes shelter in the cellar, and Mab begins having flashbacks to the battles of Williamsburg and Yorktown. In her fright Mab grabs hold of Jeff but calls him Jullian.
Another relative from England has married her third cousin a Sprague from Williamsburg. They visit Wiliamsburg taking her through the Historic Area, then they visit Jeff's house which had belonged to Jullian and Tibby. Everyone had known for a long time how much Jeff looked like the portrait of their ancestor Jullian. But what this British relative also noticed was how much Mab was the image of a protrait of their ancestor Tibby.
With the bombing of London, it was decided that Mab needed to be brought to safety in America. Mab and her grandmother come to Williamsburg and stay at Jeff's house where Mab finds herself in the portrait of her Great Great Great Grandmother Tibby.
It is a hauntingly beautiful series of books which I have enjoyed over the years, and it would make a beautiful TV miniseries that also has an historical overview.
Max Sinister
Banned
Sorry, Mists of Time... we're not talking here about films which you could make of existing books, but movies from ATLs (which mostly, but not always, bear the same title as some completely different movie from OTL).
Fog of War: Typical but grandiose Hollywood action movie, starring up and coming Cajun actor John Legendre, based on the invasion of North Vietnam by American troops. Refered by some critics as a 'chauvinist wankfest'.
((An ATL where US troops successfully invaded North Vietnam, 'winnig' the war (at an heavy price). ))
((An ATL where US troops successfully invaded North Vietnam, 'winnig' the war (at an heavy price). ))
Chris Oakley
Banned
Dark Water--a sci-fi drama about the harrowing global consequences of water pollution
Max Sinister
Banned
The best movies never made... Anime-inspired:
3x3 eyes (1962):
Rififi movie from the 60s about a bunch of burglars trying to steal the famous 9 jewels from a museum.
Sailor Moon (1977):
Gay cult movie (forbidden in seven US states), made of the same-named book about the sailor named, well, Moon.
Bubblegum Crisis (1954):
Kiddie movie about some elementary school pupils who find an innovative way to deal with the bubblegum shortage in their little city.
Oh! My Goddess (1979):
Fantasy movie by Ralph Bakshi about a warrior fighting for the cause of his goddess.
One Piece (1942):
Innovative detective movie about a detective who keeps looking for the one piece of missing information... until he discovers that it's been there all the time, right before his eyes. (But I won't tell you how that's possible!)
3x3 eyes (1962):
Rififi movie from the 60s about a bunch of burglars trying to steal the famous 9 jewels from a museum.
Sailor Moon (1977):
Gay cult movie (forbidden in seven US states), made of the same-named book about the sailor named, well, Moon.
Bubblegum Crisis (1954):
Kiddie movie about some elementary school pupils who find an innovative way to deal with the bubblegum shortage in their little city.
Oh! My Goddess (1979):
Fantasy movie by Ralph Bakshi about a warrior fighting for the cause of his goddess.
One Piece (1942):
Innovative detective movie about a detective who keeps looking for the one piece of missing information... until he discovers that it's been there all the time, right before his eyes. (But I won't tell you how that's possible!)
Munich (1995, Dreamworks SKG) -- The lighthearted story of the 1972 Olympics, where Germans finally embraced their Jewish minority after German Jews run a remarkable string of victories, most famously Marcus Spitz's sweep of the swimming medals and a Jew-dominated basketball team that scored a shocking upset over the Soviet Union. Subplots include a romance between a German-Jew olympian and the first woman to compete for the Republic of Palestine and Bavarian Minister Heinrich Himmler's embarassment over revelations that he was involved in a failed political party with antisemitic leanings in his youth.
Serenity (2005): A drama set in San Francisco's Chinatown in 1906, before, during, and after the Great Earthquake.
(Hopefully from the XX Century Timeline Project)
Esplanadi (1936): A romanticized version of the socialist revolution which took place in Finland in 1905 and the ruthless crackdown by the Russian Army which ended with bloody street-fighting in the streets of Helsinki. The name of the movie commemorates the street where the Reds made their last stand. This movely quickly became a classic to left-leaning intelligensia around the world; ironically its producer was arrested in his home country of Italy for producing "seditious" material.
Esplanadi (1936): A romanticized version of the socialist revolution which took place in Finland in 1905 and the ruthless crackdown by the Russian Army which ended with bloody street-fighting in the streets of Helsinki. The name of the movie commemorates the street where the Reds made their last stand. This movely quickly became a classic to left-leaning intelligensia around the world; ironically its producer was arrested in his home country of Italy for producing "seditious" material.
Max Sinister
Banned
Garden State (1975):
About the corrupt Queen Solange of France who let the country run down, only caring for her gardens at Versailles, eventually leading to the French Revolution and her death on the Guillotine.
The Untouchables (1988):
Controversial Indian film about the caste-less people, or Pariah. Although not forbidden, few cinemas in India dared to show it, fearing protests of high-caste Indians. Won 7 Oscars, and deserved it.
The Stepford Wives (1990):
Documentary about the city in New England where US politicians spend their holidays, and how their wives pull some strings behind the curtain. Highly regarded but too seldom watched.
Matrix (1998):
By Darren Aronofsky. Mathematician / physician Maximilian Cohen looking for some special matrix that describes the Grand Unified Theory. Not exactly a movie for everybody to understand.
Dark City (1939):
Yet another film noir playing in Chicago during prohibition. Hard-boiled detective, Mafia controlling everyone and everything, gunfights, yada yada yada.
About the corrupt Queen Solange of France who let the country run down, only caring for her gardens at Versailles, eventually leading to the French Revolution and her death on the Guillotine.
The Untouchables (1988):
Controversial Indian film about the caste-less people, or Pariah. Although not forbidden, few cinemas in India dared to show it, fearing protests of high-caste Indians. Won 7 Oscars, and deserved it.
The Stepford Wives (1990):
Documentary about the city in New England where US politicians spend their holidays, and how their wives pull some strings behind the curtain. Highly regarded but too seldom watched.
Matrix (1998):
By Darren Aronofsky. Mathematician / physician Maximilian Cohen looking for some special matrix that describes the Grand Unified Theory. Not exactly a movie for everybody to understand.
Dark City (1939):
Yet another film noir playing in Chicago during prohibition. Hard-boiled detective, Mafia controlling everyone and everything, gunfights, yada yada yada.
Max Sinister
Banned
The best movies never made... Anime-inspired (part 2):
Elfen Lied (that's German for elf song):
Elfs, rainbows, unicorns, cute animals... so sweet you could get diabetes from it.
Perfect Blue (1980):
Documentary about Thor Heyerdahl's journeys on the oceans of Earth.
Marmalade Boy (1948):
Poor immigrant boy Herszel Grynszpan from Bohemia manages to become eventually a millionaire, starting by selling marmelade made by his mother. It's not written by Ayn Rand, but it could be... yes, the message is so thick.
Cinderella Boy (2007):
The sequel to Cinderella Man. Don't ask me why they decided to make up this stupid story about James Braddock's son starting a boxing career like his father. Don't they know that James Braddock is a historical character?!
Cleopatra DC (1970):
Another Pam Grier blaxploitation movie. This time, she has the clean up in Washington DC.
Elfen Lied (that's German for elf song):
Elfs, rainbows, unicorns, cute animals... so sweet you could get diabetes from it.
Perfect Blue (1980):
Documentary about Thor Heyerdahl's journeys on the oceans of Earth.
Marmalade Boy (1948):
Poor immigrant boy Herszel Grynszpan from Bohemia manages to become eventually a millionaire, starting by selling marmelade made by his mother. It's not written by Ayn Rand, but it could be... yes, the message is so thick.
Cinderella Boy (2007):
The sequel to Cinderella Man. Don't ask me why they decided to make up this stupid story about James Braddock's son starting a boxing career like his father. Don't they know that James Braddock is a historical character?!
Cleopatra DC (1970):
Another Pam Grier blaxploitation movie. This time, she has the clean up in Washington DC.
Bonzo Goes Ballistic- Widely viewed by many critics as the movie that should never have been released. The most famous scene of the movie was entirely accidental. The chimp star was accidentally fed cocaine (being used by a set extra) and went berserk ultimately killing his unfortunate human star, Ronald Reagan. Some crazed alternative history buffs have suggested that Reagan might have gone into politics later in life, but most regard this as foolish. After all there's a big difference between smoking communists out of SAG and running the country. 
V for Vendetta (2005): A modern day retelling of the classic The Corsican Brothers, just before the US government falls due to bankruptcy, and the American Bund comes to power.
Casablanca with the actors first considered
I understand that originally, instead of Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bregman they wanted Ronald Reagan and Ann Southern for those roles in Casablanca.
Ronald Reagan and Ann Southern were both excellent actors in my estimation. But they just weren't right for those roles. Would have been interesting to see how they'd have done. Would Casablanca still be the classic it is today had they been in it instead of Bogart and Bergman?
I understand that originally, instead of Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid Bregman they wanted Ronald Reagan and Ann Southern for those roles in Casablanca.
Ronald Reagan and Ann Southern were both excellent actors in my estimation. But they just weren't right for those roles. Would have been interesting to see how they'd have done. Would Casablanca still be the classic it is today had they been in it instead of Bogart and Bergman?
Max Sinister
Banned
The best movies never made... Anime-inspired (part 3):
Dirty Pair (1989):
Kind of buddy movie about two pretty tough cops in LA. Big Minus: There are less girls in it than in a gay porn.
Fooly Cooly (1986):
Ah yes... that's one of those comedies where some bumbling guy saves the day, just like "The Man with One Red Shoe".
Gilgamesh (1983):
BBC movie about the famous epos and the theories how it inspired the story of Noah's arc.
Green Green (2005):
Biography about the famous Greenpeace activist Tom Green and the pranks he played against the big industry.
Gun X Sword (1994):
The story of some ACW soldiers (from the CSA) and their fights. An amateur movie, actually, since Hollywood wouldn't dare to make such a pro-South biased flick.
Dirty Pair (1989):
Kind of buddy movie about two pretty tough cops in LA. Big Minus: There are less girls in it than in a gay porn.
Fooly Cooly (1986):
Ah yes... that's one of those comedies where some bumbling guy saves the day, just like "The Man with One Red Shoe".
Gilgamesh (1983):
BBC movie about the famous epos and the theories how it inspired the story of Noah's arc.
Green Green (2005):
Biography about the famous Greenpeace activist Tom Green and the pranks he played against the big industry.
Gun X Sword (1994):
The story of some ACW soldiers (from the CSA) and their fights. An amateur movie, actually, since Hollywood wouldn't dare to make such a pro-South biased flick.