Thrace-Macedonia - Ethnic Melting pot of the Balkans

Beatriz

Gone Fishin'
Inspired by Tony Jones’ no-ARW Monarchy World, with its Rumelia, a Russian-aligned state in OTL Southern Bulgaria and GURPS Cornwallis’ Thrace roughly in the same location and its ethnic diversity, is an ethnically mixed Balkan state plausible?


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Maybe a Romania that extends farther south ?

@Southpaw95
 
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Inspired by Tony Jones’ no-ARW Monarchy World, with its Rumelia, a Russian-aligned state in OTL Southern Bulgaria and GURPS Cornwallis’ Thrace roughly in the same location and its ethnic diversity, is an ethnically mixed Balkan state plausible?


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Maybe a Romania that extends farther south ?

@Southpaw95
It's called the Ottomans and it went very badly precisely because of ethnical diversity.
Any multi-ethnic state has to be formed trough force which inevitably leads to conflict between conqueror and conquered, as the strength of the conqueror declines the conquered will inevitably rebel which either leads to another empire and the cycle continues or to independent states.
 

PhilipKho90

Banned
Inspired by Tony Jones’ no-ARW Monarchy World, with its Rumelia, a Russian-aligned state in OTL Southern Bulgaria and GURPS Cornwallis’ Thrace roughly in the same location and its ethnic diversity, is an ethnically mixed Balkan state plausible?
Its very difficult. Lebanon show how small multi-ethnic state could collapse. I think a "core" culture that gain control of state is probably inevitable on such small states (like Alawis on Syria or Sunnis on Iraq). retaining multi-ethnic nature of state would be difficult, especially with link between minority and neighbours. Also moder educational system is rather good on pushing "national culture".
 
Its very difficult. Lebanon show how small multi-ethnic state could collapse. I think a "core" culture that gain control of state is probably inevitable on such small states (like Alawis on Syria or Sunnis on Iraq). retaining multi-ethnic nature of state would be difficult, especially with link between minority and neighbours. Also moder educational system is rather good on pushing "national culture".
Lebanon is an interesting case because it was created by the French to give the Maronites outsized power and influence in the region and resulted in inflammation of ethnic tensions and conflict within the state but then over time through shared struggle the Lebanese actually gained a coherent and unified national identity.

Even in the past decade or so where Lebanon is going through an especially rough patch and in many ways can be considered a bunch of statelets pretending to be a state, there’s still the idea of Lebanon that all the ethnic cliques hold to. I wouldn’t call Lebanon a win by any means but honestly I kinda admire the progress Lebanon has made towards coexistence even with its myriad of issues.

I don’t think any Middle Eastern state is a good example of a neutral ethnically diverse state being created since it was created with inherently non-equitable ambitions. Though saying that, any “Rumelia” that exists as an independent state will almost certainly be created with similar ethnic imbalances to serve a geopolitical purpose. So perhaps lebanon would share some resemblance after all.

Minor thing, Lebanon is multi religious not multi ethnic .
The distinction is semi-arbitrary. This is like saying Yugoslavia was multi-religious and not multi-ethnic. The ethnogenesis of these groups is influenced by religion. Both directly as religious/communitarian identity serve as the basis for the national identity and indirectly as religion meant these communities had divergences in how they were treated historically.
 

Beatriz

Gone Fishin'
A mix of Bulgarians, Turks, Greeks, Armenians, Albanians, Jews and Romani and Aromanians
There was a shortlived Banat Republic in a similarly mixed region of East Europe, so a Thracian republic who doesn’t want partition could emerge under local post-Ottoman notables to neutralize Austrian and Russian influence

Thrace-Macedonia?
 
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