And some sensible people have come to power in the U.S. and the USSR.
Excellent ending to a fantastic timeline. Astounding in many ways, but first off the top of my head are the alterations to American politics, which were very imaginative and compelling.
Cuba and Nicaragua still under the Soviet yoke in 2029? I'll have to read this from the start. Have you considered compiling into the Finished Timelines forumn?
Asami
Banned
Very much so!
South America and Britain are both uneventful. There's no Brexit, no Scottish secessionism, everything is just rolling along.
Thank you!
Sad to see it end, but it's been a fantastic read
Thank you!
Bravo, Sakura - this timeline was great!
Thank you!Not so much the Soviet yoke insofar as much as that the Soviets are still providing them with material support in 2029. And no, I haven't considered that yet. I might, but I know if I do, I'll end up rewriting parts of it.
Really a great TL to read. Though felt a bit pissed off when you had my country turn suicidal and destroy itself in a nuclear war with the f***ing Pakistanis(well everyone on the forum seems intent on destroying India, nobody really seems to think about starting an Indian focused TL(by that I mean somewhat of a wank but not entirely so) )
Anyways what's the situation in the radiation free South Indian states?
Is it a unified whole or a collection of independent states? If so what kind of government form prevails in that state (or states, depending on your answer)?
And you had Bangladeshis grab the North Eastern States?! What have they done with the sometimes dimly significant rebels in those parts?
What happened to the Naxal rebels in Central India?
And why did the Chinese just take over the remaining chunk of North India and turn it into the Socialist Republic of Hindustan? Why not the whole of remaining India?
Anyways what's the situation in the radiation free South Indian states?
Is it a unified whole or a collection of independent states? If so what kind of government form prevails in that state (or states, depending on your answer)?
And you had Bangladeshis grab the North Eastern States?! What have they done with the sometimes dimly significant rebels in those parts?
What happened to the Naxal rebels in Central India?
And why did the Chinese just take over the remaining chunk of North India and turn it into the Socialist Republic of Hindustan? Why not the whole of remaining India?
Great TL!
Earlier back then, you mention that your next TL would be about the Empire of Japan. When's it gonna come out?
Earlier back then, you mention that your next TL would be about the Empire of Japan. When's it gonna come out?
Pretty sad that national sovereignty is dismissed in favour of new imperialism in ATL. Strength makes right in this world, I guess.
Anyway, pretty good written timeline.
Anyway, pretty good written timeline.
Asami
Banned
Thanks.
Let me preface this by saying that, at the time I wrote the Kargil War chapter, I had been watching The West Wing's episode about the India-Pakistan conflict at the time, and realized how close the nations had come to going to nuclear war.
I had then realized that, with a different China on the frontier, and a different circumstances as to the rise of Islamism and fundamentalism... India and Pakistan could very well blow each other to smithereens. I wanted to do something new with India that nobody else had really done on AH.
I had originally considering having Pakistan get blown off the Earth by India (as Pakistan had little nukes in OTL 1999), whilst India swallows a couple and becomes this semi-authoritarian state that is a thorn in China's rear--but by destroying India, I created a huge door for more plot points in the future, and gave them a greater role in the canon of the timeline. I could've easily made it Indirapunk, but where's the interesting developments in that?
The South Indian States are, I'd say... better than they were in OTL? Their cultural developments have increased, as they are now independent regimes. The quality of living isn't perfect, but it is higher than OTL Southern India would be, as each state can work according to their needs, and has no need to petition New Delhi over it.
They are a number of independent regimes that are in a loose military alliance/confederation with each other to deal with humanitarian and military issues. It is a mix of monarchies and constitutional democracies, but they're all modeled after the United Kingdom in terms of government.
The Bangladeshis indeed expanded to cover all of Bengal and the Northeast. While rebellions are still common place by 2029, the People's Republic of Bengal is more than capable of dispatching them. However, Bengal is still dealing with some of the after-effects of the Kargil War, 30 years down the line. The quality of life is not great on the western borders, and the rivers are still dicey. But China helps them out and keeps them together. It should be noted that Arunachal Pradesh was annexed by China in 1999.
With Maoism discredited by even China, Naxalites did not spread very much, and are a very small group of leftists whom are often harangued and disliked by others. They are suppressed in South India, and have been absorbed into the Communist Party of Hindustan, which governs the People's Republic of Hindustan in 2029.
China did not allow for all of Northern India to join Hindustan for these reasons:
- The rump Pakistan is outside of China's influence. It is a Soviet military puppet.
- The rump Sindhi state is outside of China's influence. It is an American military puppet.
- Kashmir and Jammu was the reason for the Kargil War and the deaths of millions. China did not trust either the rump Pakistanis or the Indian rump to govern it without more loss of life. Hence, they Morgenthau'd it.
- The Bangladeshis did not want to join Hindustan.
- The South Indians did not want to join a Chinese puppet regime, and preferred independence.
"Soon"(tm). I'm going to take some time to breathe now that I've actually finished a timeline. I've got The Shield of Liberty to consider as well, it hasn't been updated in over 3 weeks, and I know my readers are anxious for that to come back. It's just difficult.
Pretty sad that national sovereignty is dismissed in favour of new imperialism in ATL. Strength makes right in this world, I guess.
Anyway, pretty good written timeline.
Quite. Might makes right in a world where war is but a few moments away.
Thank you!
(Better) World Map 2029
@Sakura_F I hope you don't mind, I felt compelled to do my own version of your map. Lifted almost entirely from your own, of course, though I made some aesthetic choices. I'm aware it won't be wholly accurate, but I haven't yet gotten around to reading the whole timeline through and through. The last part I read was the Argentina bit, and from what I could tell it wound up under Anglo-American occupation, so I depicted that as shown. Anyway, it was thrown together rather quickly.
Edit: I realise I forgot to recolour the Kerguelens...
Edit: I realise I forgot to recolour the Kerguelens...
Asami
Banned
Very good ending to a great TL; I tip my hat to you good sir.
No matter how many times you comment on here, I'm going to be star-struck every single time. You're legendary <3
No matter how many times you comment on here, I'm going to be star-struck every single time. You're legendary <3
