No Southern Strategy: The Political Ramifications of an Alternate 1964 Election

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Who I'd have voted for:
1964: Johnson/Humphrey
1968: Humphrey/Connally
1972: Humphrey/Howell
1976: Howell/Brewer
1980: Jackson/Bayh
1984: Unruh/Carey
1988: McKeithen/Babbitt
 
  • 1964: Goldwater / Miller (R)
  • 1968: Ronald Reagan / Edward Brooke (R)
  • 1972: Jacob Javits / George Murphy (IR)
  • 1976: Roger McBride / Roy Cohn (R)
  • 1980: Roger McBride / Roy Cohn (R)
  • 1984: Roy Cohn / Shirley T. Black (R)
  • 1988: Robertson / Thompson (NC)
 
I'd vote for all the Democrats. If the parties are more big-tent than they were historically, then surely there must be some socially liberal Democrats.

I agree with the latter, but as for the former, I think I would have to see each Democrat on their merits. I think I would be a cross-party voter ITTL.
 
I agree with the latter, but as for the former, I think I would have to see each Democrat on their merits. I think I would be a cross-party voter ITTL.

If Freak Power evolved into a real national party, and not just Thompson's cult of personality, I'd vote for them. As a social libertarian and an economic moderate, I'd stick to the Republican Party.
 
Barnett's even worse!
Isn't that what we want?

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It's the cool thing so..,

1964: Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey (D)
1968: Hubert Humphrey/John Connally (D)
1972: Hubert Humphrey/Henry Howell (D)

1976: Pete McCloskey/Lowell Weicker (IR)
1980: Roger McBride/Roy Cohn (R)
1984: Roy Cohn/Shirley T. Black (R)

(I really didn't want to vote Cohn, but given the anti Semitic attacks...)
1988: Shirley T. Black/Elliot Richardson (R)

Party affiliation as of 1992: Liberal Republican (FL) who crosses over for socially liberal Democrats like Lawton Chiles.
 
Who I would have voted for in each presidential election:
  • 1964: Lyndon Johnson / Hubert Humphrey (D)
  • 1968: Ronald Reagan / Edward Brooke (R)
  • 1972: Jacob Javits / George Murphy (IR)
  • 1976: Roger McBride / Roy Cohn (R)
  • 1980: Roger McBride / Roy Cohn (R)
  • 1984: Roy Cohn / Shirley T. Black (R)
  • 1988: Shirley T. Black / Elliot Richardson (R)
All the down-ballot elections & primaries:
  • NY Mayoral, 1965: John Lindsay (R)
  • VT Senate, 1968: Roger MacBride (R)
  • VA Gubernatorial, 1969: Linwood Holton (R)
  • NY Mayoral, 1969: James Buckley (C)
  • AL Gubernatorial, 1970: Albert Brewer (D)
  • NY Senate, 1970: Charles Goodell (R)
  • MA Senate, 1970: Henry C. Lodge (R)
  • CA Gubernatorial, 1970: Ronald Reagan (R)
  • CA Senate, 1970: George Murphy (R)
  • FL Gubernatorial, 1970: Claude Kirk (D)
  • VA Senate, 1972: William Scott (R)
  • NC Senate, 1972: Not Jesse Helms (R)
  • SC Senate, 1972: John West (D)
  • ME Senate, 1972: Margaret C. Smith (R)
  • VA Gubernatorial, 1973: Linwood Holton (R)
  • NY Mayoral, 1973: Robert Kennedy (D)
  • NV Senate, 1974: Paul Laxalt (R)
  • CO Senate, 1974: Gary Hart (D)
  • KY Gubernatorial, 1975: Walter Huddleston (D)
  • GOP Primaries, 1976: Edward Brooke
  • Dem Primaries, 1976: William Proxmire
  • AZ Senate, 1976: Mo Udall (D)
  • TX Senate, 1976: George Bush (R)
  • VA Senate, 1976: John Dalton (R)
  • NY Mayoral, 1977: Barry Farber (C)
  • VA Gubernatorial, 1977: John Dalton (R)
  • TN Senate, 1978: Howard Baker (R)
  • GOP Primaries, 1980: Roger MacBride
  • Dem Primaries, 1980: Birch Bayh
  • NY Mayoral, 1981: Herbert London (C)
  • VA Gubernatorial, 1981: Chuck Robb (D)
  • OH Gubernatorial, 1982: Seth Taft (R)
  • PA Gubernatorial, 1982: R. Budd Dwyer (R)
  • CA Recall, 1983: Jesse Unruh (D)
  • WY Recall: 1983: Clifford Hansen (R)
  • LA Gubernatorial, 1983: Fox McKeithen (D)
  • MS Gubernatorial, 1983: Charles Evers (R)
  • Dem Primaries, 1984: Claude Kirk
  • GOP Primaries, 1984: Roy Cohn
  • NC Primaries, 1984: William Buckley
  • NE Senate, 1984: Ben Nelson (R)
  • GA Senate, 1984: Mack Mattingly (R)
  • UT Gubernatorial, 1984: Jon Huntsman (R)
  • MN Gubernatorial, 1986: Eugene McCarthy (R)
  • AZ Senate, 1986: Bruce Babbitt (D)
  • AZ Gubernatorial, 1986: John McCain (R)
  • TX Gubernatorial, 1986: Ron Paul (R)
  • IL Gubernatorial, 1986: John Anderson (R)
  • GA Senate, 1986: Herman Talmadge (D)
  • CO Gubernatorial, 1986: Floyd Haskell (R)
  • LA Gubernatorial, 1987: Buddy Roemer (A)
  • Dem Primaries, 1988: Bruce Babbitt
  • GOP Primaries, 1988: Shirley T. Black
  • NC Primaries, 1988: Woody Jenkins by process of elimination
  • MA Senate, 1988: Paul Tsongas (R)
  • WA Gubernatorial, 1988: Sid Morrison (R)
  • MS Gubernatorial, 1988: Charles Evers (R)
  • MS Senate, 1988: Mike Sturdivant (R)
  • NY Mayoral, 1989: Guy Molinari (R)
  • VA Gubernatorial, 1989: Jim Webb (I)
  • RI-1 Congressional, 1990: Buddy Cianci (R)
  • CA-29 Congressional, 1990: Carlos Moorhead (R)
  • DE Senate, 1990: Pete DuPont (R)
  • MT Senate, 1990: Max Baucus (D)
  • AR Senate, 1990: Bill Clinton (R)
  • SD Gubernatorial, 1990: Larry Pressler (R)
  • SC Gubernatorial, 1990: Carroll Campbell (NC)
  • AL Senate, 1990: Albert Brewer (D)
  • TX Gubernatorial, 1990: Ron Paul (R)
  • TX Gubernatorial runoff, 1990: Mickey Leland (D)
  • TX Senate, 1990: John Tower (NC)
  • AZ Gubernatorial, 1990: John McCain (R)
  • CO Senate, 1990: Ken Kramer (R)
  • CO Gubernatorial, 1990: Gale Norton (R)
 
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Well, it was either Cohn or the two worst politicians ever named Jesse.
Plus, it's not every day you get to vote for a fellow Jew as president. Even if it is Roy fucking Cohn.

And damn, the Dems go hard SoCon in this TL so I'm kind of stuck with the libertarians in the GOP. I'd be a strong supporter of Temple in her run.
 
If we're on the subject of elections, here are my choices for Canada:

1979: Liberal (led by Pierre Trudeau)
1983: NDP (led by Ed Broadbent)
1987: NDP (led by Ed Broadbent)
1991: NDP (led by James Laxer)
1994: NDP (led by James Laxer)


I'd pretty much be a solid NDP supporter ITTL.
 
If we're on the subject of elections, here are my choices for Canada:

1979: Liberal (led by Pierre Trudeau)
1983: NDP (led by Ed Broadbent)
1987: NDP (led by Ed Broadbent)
1991: NDP (led by James Laxer)
1994: NDP (led by James Laxer)


I'd pretty much be a solid NDP supporter ITTL.
You wouldn't support Colin Thatcher? ;) :p
 
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