Ah, but what happens when that thread reaches 500 pages?I think we should make a thread solely dedicated to make a succession plan for the Map Thread? I think this is an interesting idea .
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Let's not think about that right now
To get this thread back on track before its passing, an older map. (Open to suggestions on improvements)
Very nice map
What's up with united middle east and broken austria?
Thanks!
Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans were on the opposite side of Germany, Russia, Greece, and Italy. Hungary was created out of what bits of A-H would have been too tricky for either Germany or Russia to annex. Greece was rewarded for its loyalty against the Ottomans; the Russians took a bit more; and an Arab revolt was allowed to keep its unified-ish government since Berlin and Petersburg were too distracted elsewhere.
Yes, after being defeated by the US Mexico can definitely defeat the British Empire, sure. /s
Do any humans still live in the occupied areas? (Sorry, not familiar with this map TL)Here is the 1944 map of Dystopic Return of Magic.
Here is a map where Karesi Beglik defeats Ottomans when they are in the cradle. As a result Shiism becomes the dominant form of Islam in the Middle East. Sunnis split into three factions; Morrocan Axis, Indian Ocean Axis and Central Asia/India Axis. Shattered nature of the Islamic world forces them to be much more innovative and as a result a Muslim dominated world comes to be.
The Fae do keep human slaves and the Summer Court does allow the existence of some undeveloped human vassal states (can be seen in Eastern and Southern Africa, Central and South America)
It is actually a whole story timeline, a really good one as well, but I unfortunately do not have the link right now.
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Eyy! I was just reading that timeline again yesterday!A reedition of a map of Soviet Sovereign States that I had made, but this time filtered and inspired by the AltHistory TL "A New Union":
Poland Can Into Africa - The Voivodeship of Argonia
map of Argonia in 2021
The modern Republic of Argonia (Polish: Rzeczpospolita Argonia) was first born as a joint venture of the Polish-Brandenburgian crown in 1782. At the time, wealthy industrialist Max Zebber funded a group of mercenaries to illegally oust English colonists in the area. After having successfully taken the fort at Arguin, he presented his work as a fait accompli to the king. The crown reluctantly took over the colony, which failed to expand significantly due to the harsh climate.
Much later, during the Scramble for Africa and the Przelyn Conference, the Polonian Empire took the chance to stake its claim to the area around Arguin (now called "Argonia") and formalized it into the Voivodeship of Argonia (Polish: Województwo Argońskie). This was quite different from other strategies of colonialism at the time, as Argonia was immediately and from then on considered an integral part of the nation.
Colonial flag of the Voivodeship of Argonia
Subsequently, missionaries and businessmen departed for the new venture. While lacking in most resources, the colony became highly Christianized since many saw it as a chance to avoid the "evils of modernity" and new evangelical movements were able to pursue their faith in complete privacy. Polish was taught widely throughout as a means of proselytizing and aiding in the administration of the colony. Some Germans from Bamboria (German: Brandenburg) also migrated to the colony, as it afforded them linguistic and cultural breathing room away from the Polonization efforts of the crown.
During the First Great War, Argonia sent several volunteer legions to fight in Europe, since it did not border the hostile empires of Germany or Russia. In the Second Great War, it was the home of the Polish Government-in-Exile. Many government members and their families fled there, allowing for the old government to continue. After the Postąp Conference, Polonia was considered to be in the Soviet sphere and thus Argonia was put in an awkward place. The Allies initially planned to support local uprisings to undermine the uncooperative Polish GiE, but after relations between East and West soured, the US fully backed the Poles.
Rabid anti-communism combined with anti-Arab and anti-Moor racism to keep minority Polonian (Polish/German) rule in place until about 1971, when a compromise was made with more moderate autonomist parties, and Argonia was declared independent. This was opposed by pro-liberation (aka "free Polonia in Europe") groups as well as the US, since Argonia was a pressure-piece against communist Polonia in Europe. As a compromise, Argonia was declared to be an "autonomous republic in free association with Polonia, with the right, recognized by both nations, to leave at any time".
1971 independence compromise flag
When the Steel Curtain fell in 1993, the new Polonian government formally recognized the 1971 independence compromise and recognized Argonian independence (technically for the second time) in Warsaw. While independent, Argonia refused to withdraw from the "association status" it had declared before. Though the claimed association has no legal meaning, it has continued to be a sign of cooperation between the two nations to this day.
Argonia's two biggest cities are Atarz (capital city) and Nładzibu (main port). It also has oil deposits and the historic Arguin/Argon fort, as well as interesting cuisine (a mix of Polish and North African).
Note: this is part of a timeline I've been working on, of a Poland-Brandenburg union which evolves into "Polonia"
map of Argonia in 2021
The modern Republic of Argonia (Polish: Rzeczpospolita Argonia) was first born as a joint venture of the Polish-Brandenburgian crown in 1782. At the time, wealthy industrialist Max Zebber funded a group of mercenaries to illegally oust English colonists in the area. After having successfully taken the fort at Arguin, he presented his work as a fait accompli to the king. The crown reluctantly took over the colony, which failed to expand significantly due to the harsh climate.
Much later, during the Scramble for Africa and the Przelyn Conference, the Polonian Empire took the chance to stake its claim to the area around Arguin (now called "Argonia") and formalized it into the Voivodeship of Argonia (Polish: Województwo Argońskie). This was quite different from other strategies of colonialism at the time, as Argonia was immediately and from then on considered an integral part of the nation.
Colonial flag of the Voivodeship of Argonia
Subsequently, missionaries and businessmen departed for the new venture. While lacking in most resources, the colony became highly Christianized since many saw it as a chance to avoid the "evils of modernity" and new evangelical movements were able to pursue their faith in complete privacy. Polish was taught widely throughout as a means of proselytizing and aiding in the administration of the colony. Some Germans from Bamboria (German: Brandenburg) also migrated to the colony, as it afforded them linguistic and cultural breathing room away from the Polonization efforts of the crown.
During the First Great War, Argonia sent several volunteer legions to fight in Europe, since it did not border the hostile empires of Germany or Russia. In the Second Great War, it was the home of the Polish Government-in-Exile. Many government members and their families fled there, allowing for the old government to continue. After the Postąp Conference, Polonia was considered to be in the Soviet sphere and thus Argonia was put in an awkward place. The Allies initially planned to support local uprisings to undermine the uncooperative Polish GiE, but after relations between East and West soured, the US fully backed the Poles.
Rabid anti-communism combined with anti-Arab and anti-Moor racism to keep minority Polonian (Polish/German) rule in place until about 1971, when a compromise was made with more moderate autonomist parties, and Argonia was declared independent. This was opposed by pro-liberation (aka "free Polonia in Europe") groups as well as the US, since Argonia was a pressure-piece against communist Polonia in Europe. As a compromise, Argonia was declared to be an "autonomous republic in free association with Polonia, with the right, recognized by both nations, to leave at any time".
1971 independence compromise flag
When the Steel Curtain fell in 1993, the new Polonian government formally recognized the 1971 independence compromise and recognized Argonian independence (technically for the second time) in Warsaw. While independent, Argonia refused to withdraw from the "association status" it had declared before. Though the claimed association has no legal meaning, it has continued to be a sign of cooperation between the two nations to this day.
Argonia's two biggest cities are Atarz (capital city) and Nładzibu (main port). It also has oil deposits and the historic Arguin/Argon fort, as well as interesting cuisine (a mix of Polish and North African).
Note: this is part of a timeline I've been working on, of a Poland-Brandenburg union which evolves into "Polonia"
How did Hungary lose transylvania but keep Croatia and Bosnia?
Interesting, and nice map, but I don't understand what you mean by "factions", and I don't see how the Islamic world is more "shattered" than OTL.
Transylvania has a great history of Independence from central Hungary and the Habsburgs
How can you see how many likes a post has other thanks the ones you make yourselves?
This is really still going?
I disagree. Annexing a sparsely inhabited and underdeveloped colony is going to cause fewer problems than annexing a sovereign state with by this point a separate history that had left Mexican rule previously.
There could be a purchase or a World War I analogue in which Britain is on the losing side.
That it was a colony suggests inherently that another, larger power is interested in it, which there is, and that's the UK. Mexico cannot win a war against the UK and would know this. There would be no reason for any Mexican leader to risk war with Britain for Belize, a small territory that had never been settled by Spain and for which Britain previously fought off Spain, a much more powerful player at the time. Just because something would be aesthetically pleasing doesn't mean it makes political sense.
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