Map Thread XIV

[Zek Sora]

Curious. What are relations like between the US and the UK?

Atlantic US: You stay out of our business, we stay out of yours. They don't really have anything to compete over (UK gave up on their former Caribbean possessions a loooong time ago).

Pacific US: Signed a treaty with the UK in which the annexation of West Coast Canada was recognized (Canadians still not very happy about that) and 120ºE was set as the boundary between American Canada and British Canada. In return, the US guaranteed Sarawak against Dutch/Japanese attack and recognized the annexation of Kaiser Wilhelm's Land. Basically an alliance, but one bought at a costly price for the UK.

To what capacity do the two United States' interact/cooperate?

Basically, they both run their own business, and try to cooperate on broad strokes in foreign policy (e.g. both being at war with the same people). Both US' are vaguely democratic, with significant military elements in the halls of power and mass disenfranchisement among the non-white populations.

How stable is the Commonwealth?

Pretty stable. The Kingdoms are basically left to run their own affairs, which usually extends to protecting the surrounding Crown domains, which along with strong governance of the Crown Colonies/Crown Provinces and a strong central military (generally tends to happen when you're a de facto dictatorship under the rule of the Navy), keeps the UK as a somewhat decentralized power but still definitively the greatest in the world.

Is Icelandic now the de facto language of the UK?

I'm going to quote the writeup on this one:

[*]Kingdom of Iceland: During the Collapse, the British made a deal with the Icelanders: Iceland would recognize Queen Victoria as their rightful sovereign and allow British settlement, and in return the British would crush the budding infection in Reykjavik. Most of Scotland and northern England was evacuated here, at least at first before being sent elsewhere for resettlement.

So, no, English is. There are wayyy more British in Iceland than Icelanders.

How is life developing on various small isles that generally didn't/don't get as much attention from the great powers (thinking, like, St. Helena)?

It's not really, aside from the addition of a bunch of new settlers (refugees) that generally leave for more agreeable (if more dangerous) climes in the form of resettlement zones after a few years.

 

[Uhura's Mazda]

No one can defeat the mighty, immortal nation of Manipur.

Literally, look at it on a map, it never goes away.

Presumably because it was one of the few Princely States whose governments opposed Indian Unification.

 

[Spartakusbund1]

Presumably because it was one of the few Princely States whose governments opposed Indian Unification.

To this day, Manipur is still an entity in the Republic of India.

 

[Uhura's Mazda]

To this day, Manipur is still an entity in the Republic of India.

I'm... not sure what you're getting at here. I know it's a part of India and that most of the population in the 1940s were keen on joining, despite the wishes of their government - hence the riots. But even so, it was one of the princely states which were most likely to remain independent in a certain kind of scenario.

 

[Tsar of New Zealand]

X-posting my MotF entry.

What are these zombies like? If the hordes are still present after 60 years, it's not encouraging to say the least.

 

[Zek Sora]

What are these zombies like? If the hordes are still present after 60 years, it's not encouraging to say the least.

Nope, and as I said in the MotF main thread, there's a reason it's called What Remains and not The New Dark Age or something like that. Humanity is pretty much doomed. But at least we get some entertainment out of our struggles before we totally perish!

 

[MrL567]

]Wanted to create a world with a Fascist block sans Germany. This was the result.

• The death of Ataturk during World War One is the POD, his death results in a more violent downfall of the Ottoman Empire, due to at the treaty of Sevres, no one was able to present in Turkey a united front against the imperialists.
• The Soviets as a result are able to intervene, resulting in a Western Free Turkey and a Eastern Soviet puppet states of Turkey and Kurdistan.
• World War Two never happened, but Dutch East Indies still fell due to anti-colonialist revolts. Some factions went with Japan, others banded with China against Japan.
• The Baltic Alliance is the result of the greater Soviet threat due to the various puppet states in Europe.
• Due to a stronger Soviet Union, the Republican Faction in Spain won, unfortunately the Soviets subverted it, and now Spain and Portugal are the equivalent of OTL's Warsaw Pact states.
• The current most likely cause for WW2 will be the collapse of the Indian Dominions due to Japan backing various Azad Hind revolts across the country. Britain plan of controlling India by splitting it into dominions has backfired.

 

[Gian]

Let the hype train for the next map begin. . .

 

[Clandango]

Let the hype train for the next map begin. . .

Helvetica looks fat.

 

[Clandango]

Wanted to create a world with a Fascist block sans Germany. This was the result.

I have some doubts for Iberia. Did the lack of Fascist Germans or greater weight in Anatolia mean Stalin decided to actually try and make the Republicans win? And still suceed in murdering the Socialists, Trotskyists, Catalan nationalists, Democrats, local communists, and all that without the French and British support of the Republicans outweighing the Stalinists robbing them all? Perhaps a bit rangy, but I am wondering how a democratic coalition managed to go into that shade of pink with that name, especially when Portugal was thrown in. I do adore Italy getting the Baelrics, and can Definetly see them taking all instead of just one wanted to IOTL. Wondering why the abritish took two centuries old cities in northern Morocco, instead of letting it go with the League of Nations. I do wonder how that group goes and what LoN forces have done around the world not shown on the map. Still loads of Greeks in Trebizond or is the place mostly flooded by Turks coming down form the mountains? Probably deported after the stuff in the west. What is that one LoN dot in the Greek area? Also, you need to redo number 12 for Madagascar.

 

[Alex Richards]

Hmm. Sondrio, Ossala, Vorarlberg, Gex and the Chablais.

Not a proper Swiss-wank without Mulhouse

 

[MrL567]

I have some doubts for Iberia. Did the lack of Fascist Germans or greater weight in Anatolia mean Stalin decided to actually try and make the Republicans win? And still suceed in murdering the Socialists, Trotskyists, Catalan nationalists, Democrats, local communists, and all that without the French and British support of the Republicans outweighing the Stalinists robbing them all? Perhaps a bit rangy, but I am wondering how a democratic coalition managed to go into that shade of pink with that name, especially when Portugal was thrown in. I do adore Italy getting the Baelrics, and can Definetly see them taking all instead of just one wanted to IOTL. Wondering why the abritish took two centuries old cities in northern Morocco, instead of letting it go with the League of Nations. I do wonder how that group goes and what LoN forces have done around the world not shown on the map. Still loads of Greeks in Trebizond or is the place mostly flooded by Turks coming down form the mountains? Probably deported after the stuff in the west. What is that one LoN dot in the Greek area? Also, you need to redo number 12 for Madagascar.

Combination of the two. Weaker National side and stronger Republican side resulted in some changes. The main reason for the Socialist Spain is due to the Republicans seen as "stronger" there was less non-soviet international support. So the republicans were less balance, leading to more socialist influence.

The reason that England got the cities is combination of controlling them to have complete control the straits, and that on other partsof the map, most of the Spanish and Portuguese colonies got made into LoN territory or handed to England.

Trebizond is less Turkish then OTL, even with refuges, the Greeks are still holding a majority, albeit a small one.

That blue LoN area is the international city of Symrna.

 

[Gian]

Helvetica looks fat.

Well, it is a map from the world of the last map, so. . .

 

[Baconheimer]

My cover. Not completely happy, hopefully will redo it at some time.

Reverse Sealion: By EmmettMcFly55

"The next European War will come from some thing in the Baltic."- Frederic Thesiger.

The year is 1914, and the world is on the eve of a war, though it does not know it. The most powerful states in the world are in Europe, where two opposing alliances look at each other, knowing war is inevitable, but hoping it does not come.

The Triple Entente, led by the German Empire, the oldest nation in the world, with a long history of empire and colonies around the world, is considered the more democratic of the two blocs. Its allies are the French Republic, a revanchist state, eager to regain Normandy-Brittanny, and also an avid colonial power, and, far to the west, the American Empire, a backwards state originally created by the Scots that has now reconquered its former colonial master.

Their enemy comes in the form of the Triple Alliance. Leading the Triple Alliance is the English Empire, united less than half a century ago by the Kingdom of Kent. England is a militaristic and nationalistic land, its armies prepared for war against France and America. Its premier ally is Wales-Poland, forged by English-speaking Welsh Kings, with extensive territories in Eastern Europe. It is slowly collapsing amidst ethnic tensions. Finally, in the Balkans, the relatively new nation of Greece is one of their allies. Greece hopes to gain land from the Germans in Africa.

There are many unaligned nations, the greatest of those being Russia, formed by German settlers after a revolution in 1776. The capitol of Waischenfeld, District of Schlitbergia is the home of their government, and from there, a series of states stretches from Poland to the Bering. It is democratic and isolationist, wanting little to do with outside wars.

 

[Used-to-be Song Chinese]

There are many unaligned nations, the greatest of those being Russia, formed by German settlers after a revolution in 1776. The capitol of Waischenfeld, District of Schlitbergia is the home of their government, and from there, a series of states stretches from Poland to the Bering. It is democratic and isolationist, wanting little to do with outside wars.

I don't think I understand this one, is there a typo mistake, or the scenario has a ancient PoD?

 

[Clandango]

Well, it is a map from the world of the last map, so. . .

Ooh, we going to see the fun internal borders and culture groups?

 

[Gian]

Ooh, we going to see the fun internal borders and culture groups?

Well, the previous map had the Burgundians develop their own Oïl language so that replaces the French-speakers (that and Arpitan continues to be spoken). Meanwhile, the Chur fire doesn't happen so while the Three Leagues are still part of the Confederation, it's still largely Romansh-speaking.

As for internal boders, whoo boy, where will we begin.

 

[Beedok]

Helvetica looks fat.

It's not fat. it's bold.

 

[Baconheimer]

I don't think I understand this one, is there a typo mistake, or the scenario has a ancient PoD?

No mistake. It is an ASB scenario, and Russia=America. The Germans=Britain, so it was settled by Germans. The PoD is effectively indeterminate.

 

[Neoteros]

It's not fat. it's bold.

I love (plausible) Swiss wanks so, bring it on.