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HE KEPT US OUT OF WAR

(D) Woodrow Wilson / Thomas R. Marshall
(1913 - 1916)
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / vacant (1916 - 1917)
def.
(D) Woodrow Wilson / Thomas R. Marshall
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / Charles W. Fairbanks (1917 - 1918)
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / vacant (1918 - 1920)
(D) Thomas W. Marshall / Gilbert Hitchcock (1920 - 1922)
def.
1920: (R) Charles Evans Hughes / Leonard Wood; (P) Robert M. LaFollette, Sr. / Asle J. Gronna
(D) Gilbert Hitchcock / vacant (1922 - 1924)
(D) Henry Ford / Hugh S. Johnson (1924 - 1932)
def.
1924: (“Lincolnian" Republican) Harry M. Daugherty / Calvin Coolidge; (“LaFollettian” Republican) Smith W. Brookhart / William Borah
1928: (R) Frederick Steiwer / Theodore E. Burton; (F-L) Parley Christensen / Henrik Shipstead
(DFL) Hugh S. Johnson / Parley Christensen (1932 - 1936)
def.
1932: (R) Hamilton Fish III / Owen Roberts
(R) Quentin Roosevelt / Gerald P. Nye (1936 - 1944)
def.
1936: (DFL) Hugh S. Johnson / Parley Christensen; (Southerners') John Rankin / Paul Cyr
1940: (DFL) Parley Christensen / Oswald West; (S) Ellison D. Smith / James T. Heflin
1940: (DFL) Bennett Champ Clark / Prentiss M. Brown
(DFL) Will Rogers, Jr. / Konrad K. Solberg (1944 - 1952)
def.
1944: (R) Gerald P. Nye / Robert A. Taft
1948: (R) Gerald P. Nye / C. R. Smith
(R) Goodwin Knight / James P. Mitchell (1952 - 1960)
def.
1952: (DFL) Rexford Tugwell / W. Stetson Kennedy
1956: (DFL) Mark O. Hatfield / Coya Knutson
(DFL) Coya Knutson / Henry Johns (1960 - 1965)
def.
1960: (R) James P. Mitchell / Carl Curtis
1964: (R) Robert P. Griffin / Fred A. Seaton
(DFL) Henry Johns / vacant (1965 - present)

Footnotes tomorrow.
 
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HE KEPT US OUT OF WAR

(D) Woodrow Wilson / Thomas R. Marshall
(1913 - 1916)
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / vacant (1916 - 1917)
def.
(D) Woodrow Wilson / Thomas R. Marshall
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / Charles W. Fairbanks (1917 - 1918)
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / vacant (1918 - 1920)
(D) Thomas W. Marshall / Gilbert Hitchcock (1920 - 1922)
def.
1920: (R) Charles Evans Hughes / Leonard Wood; (P) Robert M. LaFollette, Sr. / Asle J. Gronna
(D) Gilbert Hitchcock / vacant (1922 - 1924)
(D) Henry Ford / Hugh S. Johnson (1924 - 1932)
def.
1924: (“Lincolnian" Republican) Harry M. Daugherty / Calvin Coolidge; (“LaFollettian” Republican) Smith W. Brookhart / William Borah
1928: (R) Frederick Steiwer / Theodore E. Burton; (F-L) Parley Christensen / Henrik Shipstead
(DFL) Hugh S. Johnson / Parley Christensen (1932 - 1936)
def.
1932: (R) Hamilton Fish III / Owen Roberts
(R) Quentin Roosevelt / Gerald P. Nye (1936 - 1944)
def.
1936: (DFL) Hugh S. Johnson / Parley Christensen; (Southerners') John Rankin / Paul Cyr
1940: (DFL) Parley Christensen / Oswald West; (S) Ellison D. Smith / James T. Heflin
1940: (DFL) Bennett Champ Clark / Prentiss M. Brown
(DFL) Will Rogers, Jr. / Konrad K. Solberg (1944 - 1952)
def.
1944: (R) Gerald P. Nye / Robert A. Taft
1948: (R) Gerald P. Nye / C. R. Smith
(R) Goodwin Knight / James P. Mitchell (1952 - 1960)
def.
1952: (DFL) Rexford Tugwell / W. Stetson Kennedy
1956: (DFL) Mark O. Hatfield / Coya Knutson
(DFL) Coya Knutson / Henry Johns (1960 - 1965)
def.
1960: (R) James P. Mitchell / Carl Curtis
1964: (R) Robert P. Griffin / Fred A. Seaton
(DFL) Henry Johns / vacant (1965 - present)

Footnotes tomorrow.

I am very impressed.

I do find the dates a bit confusing
 
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Uachtarán ar Ard-Chomhairle Shaorstát Éireann

1922-1926: Michael Collins (Cumann na nGaedheal)
1926-1928
: Éamon de Valera (Páirtí Poblachtach)
1928-1935
: Michael Collins (Cumann na nGaedheal)
1935-1937
: Éamon de Valera (Páirtí Poblachtach)

Ceannaire an Éire Aontaithe

1937-1940: Éamon de Valera (Páirtí Poblachtach) ✞
1940-1940: Seán Thomas O'Kelly (Páirtí Poblachtach) (acting)

British Military Governors of Occupied Ireland

1940-1946: James Albert Edward Hamilton (Ulster Unionist)
1946-1949: John Maitland Salmond (Independent)


Prime Ministers of the Dominion of Southern Ireland

1949-1951: Myles Keogh (Irish Democratic League)

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Something I've been meaning to do for a while, this exploration of the concept is...probably not the most well thought out, but meh.

I would have thought they'd just call it the Irish Free State still, it was a Dominion.
 
HE KEPT US OUT OF WAR

(D) Woodrow Wilson / Thomas R. Marshall
(1913 - 1916)
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / vacant (1916 - 1917)
def.
(D) Woodrow Wilson / Thomas R. Marshall
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / Charles W. Fairbanks (1917 - 1918)
(R) Charles Evans Hughes / vacant (1918 - 1920)
(D) Thomas W. Marshall / Gilbert Hitchcock (1920 - 1922)
def.
1920: (R) Charles Evans Hughes / Leonard Wood; (P) Robert M. LaFollette, Sr. / Asle J. Gronna
(D) Gilbert Hitchcock / vacant (1922 - 1924)
(D) Henry Ford / Hugh S. Johnson (1924 - 1932)
def.
1924: (“Lincolnian" Republican) Harry M. Daugherty / Calvin Coolidge; (“LaFollettian” Republican) Smith W. Brookhart / William Borah
1928: (R) Frederick Steiwer / Theodore E. Burton; (F-L) Parley Christensen / Henrik Shipstead
(DFL) Hugh S. Johnson / Parley Christensen (1932 - 1936)
def.
1932: (R) Hamilton Fish III / Owen Roberts
(R) Quentin Roosevelt / Gerald P. Nye (1936 - 1944)
def.
1936: (DFL) Hugh S. Johnson / Parley Christensen; (Southerners') John Rankin / Paul Cyr
1940: (DFL) Parley Christensen / Oswald West; (S) Ellison D. Smith / James T. Heflin
1940: (DFL) Bennett Champ Clark / Prentiss M. Brown
(DFL) Will Rogers, Jr. / Konrad K. Solberg (1944 - 1952)
def.
1944: (R) Gerald P. Nye / Robert A. Taft
1948: (R) Gerald P. Nye / C. R. Smith
(R) Goodwin Knight / James P. Mitchell (1952 - 1960)
def.
1952: (DFL) Rexford Tugwell / W. Stetson Kennedy
1956: (DFL) Mark O. Hatfield / Coya Knutson
(DFL) Coya Knutson / Henry Johns (1960 - 1965)
def.
1960: (R) James P. Mitchell / Carl Curtis
1964: (R) Robert P. Griffin / Fred A. Seaton
(DFL) Henry Johns / vacant (1965 - present)

Footnotes tomorrow.

I like it - I'm a big CEH fan and any TL where he wins is great to me! But, the way you've formatted it makes it a bit difficult to read.

Do Wilson and Marshall's resignations in 1916 lead to a reform to end the lame duck period, thereby letting the succeeding POTUS into office in the election year?
 
I like it - I'm a big CEH fan and any TL where he wins is great to me! But, the way you've formatted it makes it a bit difficult to read.

Do Wilson and Marshall's resignations in 1916 lead to a reform to end the lame duck period, thereby letting the succeeding POTUS into office in the election year?
Yeah, that was the idea. How is the formatting confusing?
 
The dates of office are after the names but the election dates are in their more orthodox place. Also, the elections are the same size font as the presidents, so that can lead to some confusion when reading.
Ah. Sorry about that. I'll revise it when I add the footnotes.
 
US elections since 1960 if the US still consisted of the original thirteen colonies (for Virginia, I've only included Virginia and not West Virginia even though it was part of the state until the 19th century. For Massachusetts Bay, I've used the state of Massachusetts). It doesn't take into account how different results might change future results, but simply just uses what the states voted for historically. It seems that the thirteen states I've used don't have much of a difference between their results and the actual results although there's now a Democrat president between 1992 and the present day rather than a Bush double term (and all three changes are for Democrats). Looking at the map on 270towin, if the states stay the same then Clinton will win, continuing the Democrat run that started with her husband.

1960 - John F. Kennedy
1964 - Lyndon B. Johnson
1968 - Hubert Humphrey
1972 - Richard Nixon
1976 - Jimmy Carter
1980 - Ronald Reagan
1984 - Ronald Reagan
1988 - George H.W Bush
1992 - Bill Clinton
1996 - Bill Clinton
2000 - Al Gore
2004 - John Kerry
2008 - Barack Obama
2012 - Barack Obama




 
Progress (Part 1)-1913-1933

28. Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive), 1913-1918 (died)[1]
1912: Champ Clark (Democratic), William J. Bryan (Populist) [2], Eugene Debs (Socialist) [3], William H. Taft (Republican), [4]
1916:
Charles Fairbanks (Republican), [5] Thomas R. Marshall (Democratic), [6] Eugene Debs (Socialist) [7]

29. Hiram Johnson (Progressive), 1918-1921[8]
30. John J. Pershing (Republican), 1921-1929 [9]
1920: Hiram Johnson (Progressive), Robert L. Owen (Democratic), Robert M. La Follette (Farmer-Labor) [10]
1924: Gifford Pinchot (Progressive), James M. Cox (Democratic), Robert M. La Follette (Farmer-Labor) [11]

31. Andrew Mellon (Republican), 1929-XXXX[15]
1928: Cordell Hull (Progressive), Burton K. Wheeler (Farmer-Labor), [12] Sidney J. Catts (Protestant League), [13] Al Smith (Democratic), [14]

1932 CANDIDATES: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Progressive), Burton K. Wheeler (Farmer-Labor), John N. Garner (Democratic), William D. Pelley (Protestant League), Andrew Mellon (Republican) [16]

[1]=Got us into the war earlier than OTL. Died earlier than OTL as well. 16th and 17th amendment passed

[2]=Wilson dropped out before Bryan can endorse him. After Clark is endorsed by Tammany, Bryanites storm out and revive the Populist party. They only manage to win Nebraska and Nevada

[3]=Nabbed Oklahoma due to massive vote splitting

[4]=Stopped campaigning after Sherman died, only won Utah

[5]=Gave the Republicans the much-needed morale boost they deserved

[6]=Thomas Marshall was seen as a safe choice, as he was a popular governor from Indiana, a swing state at the time. But, alas, he failed to deliver

[7]=Got Oklahoma and Nevada somehow. Maybe his anti-war message resonated with some people. That, or vote splitting

[8]=Seen as caretaker president. Tried to return to normalcy, failed. Prohibition passed

[9]=War hero John J. Pershing easily nabbed the GOP nomination, and defeated Johnson with a comfortable margin. Presidency was one of prosperity.

[10]=After failing to win nomination, La Follette's men stormed off and created the Farmer-Labor party, nominating La Follette

[11]=Why not a 2nd time?

[12]=Many thought that after La Follette died, the Farmer-Labor party will do the same. But after Wheeler was nominated, it was pretty clear that the Farmer-Labor party was here to stay

[13]=Many Democrats were angry at the nomination of the Catholic Smith, so much so that they bolted from the party and formed the Protestant League, with Sidney J. Catts as it's nominee

[14]=Only won Rhode Island. Sad!

[15]=Mellon was groomed as the successor to Pershing. After all, the US economy was doing great, and Mellon, being treasury secretary, was seen as responsible. Easily won presidency, but then the Great Depression hit. Mellon's undying fiscal conservatism made it worse, but when 1932 came, the electoral college was deadlocked, and the College has never been hated as much as it is now....

[16]=Mellon's campaign had a Taft moment in which they only won Vermont by 344 votes!
 
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Gone Fishin'
Everyday is Like Sunday

1964-1968: Harold Wilson (Labour) † [1]
def. 1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
def. 1966: Edward Heath (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)

1968-1971: Roy Jenkins (Labour) [2]
1971-1973: Edward Heath (Conservative) [3]

def. 1971: Roy Jenkins (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
1973-1974: Aiery Neave (Conservative) [4]
1974-1974: Airey Neave (Conservative minority)

def. 1974: Peter Shore (Labour), Tony Crosland (Democratic Labour), Trevor Jones (Liberal), John O'Brien (National Front), Tony Whittaker (Ecological)
1974-1979: Harold Macmillan, Earl of Stockton (Peer led Government of National Unity including Conservative, Democratic Labour, Liberal, Ulster Unionist) [5]

1-
On the Second of June, 1968, Harold Wilson was gunned down in the street. His assassin had shot him because of what he read in the Daily Mirror- that Wilson had to be stopped as he was slowly shuffling the Country to and over the brink into disaster. Whilst Cecil King, the author, advocated a vague notion Parliamentary impeachment of the Prime Minister, the assassin had other plans when it became evident that Wilson would not be removed, and thus made Wilson one of only two First Lord of the Treasuries to be killed in office. Wilson survived in the initial shooting, despite being fired upon seven times at near close range- just long enough that he could say goodbye to Mary and the Children. Mourned by the country and granted a rare State Funeral, not an eye in Britain was dry, but as the black suits were put away and damp handkerchiefs stuffed back into pockets, the future kept its murky funeral shroud as Wilson's successor moved into No. 10.
2-Jenkins entered office on a flurry of goodwill. Formerly and controversial Home Secretary, a tough Chancellor, a europhilic Oxfordite, and from the right of the Labour Party, he would, in a sense, preside over Labour's last Government. Quickly the issues emerged- the economy was struggling, Trade Unions were revolting, the Party was divided, and worst of all, Ted Heath had found his voice. The unassuming Jenkins would be at the centre of this storm, fighting with his old friend and new Chancellor Tony Crosland over the issue of the Unions, and unexpectedly finding common ground with Barbra Castle on the same matter. The economy fared little better, with the surplus becoming deficit in '69, though decimalisation went with some ease, not that the British Public took comfort in this. James Callaghan would resign from the Home Office in 1970 following the passing of the Commonwealth Immigration Act, citing the emotional stress and the enduring depression he developed thanks to the job. His successor, Denis Healy, would be responsible for the implementation of the new Local Governments. On his part, they were something of a success, but they were nothing more that popping the bubbly on a sinking ship. Jenkins would stumble into a March election on the heels of fresh strikes, and despite a surprisingly energetic campaign, lost quiet badly, Labour sinking down to some 270 seats.
3-When Heath entered Downing Street, it was common knowledge his Premiership was that of a dead man walking. Inheriting an economy that was- as Heath would later remark candidly to his old friend Denis Healy- "fucked", and a situation with the Trade Unions that threatened to tear the country apart, Heath would throw himself into his work. But as pressure mounted, he retreated behind closed doors, interacting from behind close colleagues and television screens. Some joked that Heath had died and a secret council had taken control. Others took this more seriously, with the Conservative Parliamentary Party sighing relief when the Prime Minister appeared in Parliament. He became known as the 'Hermit Minister'. With the Trade Unions, he entered a duel; taking a hard line on strikers in an effort to 'break them' and the grip the Unions had, the Government enacted emergency measures, such as the long-weekends, at the height of the strikes. Heath, nor the Union bosses, blinked, at least until Bloody Sunday. A soldier, guarding non-union workers, shot and killed four strikers at a coal mine in Kent whilst trying to protect a convoy they had blocked. The nation seemed to imploded over night, with riots on a scale unseen in generations, martial law enacted in certain regions, with some even saying that the Trouble ridden Ulster was preferably to Hackney. In an attempt to placate the rioters, Heath stepped down as Prime Minister, although violence would continue as it took a nasty ethnic bent, though this was limited and easily dealt with as the majority dissipated.
4-Airey Neave's motivation for becoming Prime Minister is one that was for him personal. Personally dismissed by Heath following his heart attack in 1959 and feeling that his career had been clipped, the former spy found himself thrust into the perfect opportunity to prove his predecessor wrong, and it was an opertunity that he took on with vigour. Despite having only held minor roles in Government and on various select committees, Neave found the cloth of Leadership to be one that he fit comfortably within. With workers on strike and the social and economic fibers of Britain unraveling, Marital law was the name of the game, and it was a game that Neave intended to play until he won. But he would need a larger majority, he felt. Following some short legislation, Neave unexpectedly thrust the nation into a General election, taking advantage of the recent Labour split and resurgence of the Liberals in hopes he could divide and conquer. The opposite happened- a hung parliament, part in thanks to surge of the Ecological Party and National Front. As a result Neave opted to run a minority Government until he could negotiate a Coalition. Unfortunately, the stress of it all was to much for him, and he suffered a catastrophic heart attack a few days later; he would die at his desk, slumped over a letter from Tony Crosland reluctantly agreeing to form a Government.
5-On the heels of Neave's death, the nation needed a strong (and healthy) Leadership. The decision by the Queen to ask Harold Macmillan to form Government was thus something of a surprise, though, at least to her, not without some logic. Having met with her Cousin, Lord Mountbatten, a day after the election, though before Neave's sudden death, Mountbatten related to her the story of Cecil King's offer, and how he had turned him down when it was apparent treason. Whilst laughing off the idea, the notion of appointing a peer to lead the Government rooted itself, and after the sudden death of Neave, Her Majesty seriously considered the matter. Assembling the Privy Council, she sought advice on the matter. The Council was rightly split- the appointment of a Peer was drastic, and in many respects undemocratic. Others however, some with a vested interest in the idea, and others who believed that as the nation sunk further into a chaos a firmer hand was needed, were more responsive to the idea. Eventually the decision to appoint a Peer to Leadership of a Government of National Unity was agreed upon, though not before both Peter Shore stormed out of the meeting, declaring he would have no part in a 'Dictatorship'. The question of who would lead was quickly bought up- Mountbatten declined the invitation, Baron Hailsham- then Conservative Leader in the House- was to become Lord Speaker, and even Baron Shackleton, the Labour Leader in the Lords, was unresponsive to the idea. Instead, a face emerged from the crowd to volunteer for the role, the familiar whiskered face of Harold Macmillan, who would form this Unity Government a scant month after the election, and to unprecedented Controversy...
 
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Progress (Part 1)-1913-1933

Progress (Part 2)-1933-1953

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Progressive), 1933-1941 [18]
1932: Burton K. Wheeler (Farmer-Labor) [17], John N. Garner (Democratic), William D. Pelley (Protestant League), Andrew Mellon (Republican)
1936: Burton K. Wheeler (Farmer-Labor), John N. Garner (Democratic), Alf Landon (Republican)

33. Sam Rayburn (Progressive-Farmer-Labor), 1941-1953 [20]
1940: Wendell Willkie (Republican), Paul V. McNutt (Democratic) [19]
1944: Thomas E. Dewey (Republican), Harry F. Byrd (Democratic)
1948: Rob Taft (Republican), Dan Moody (Democratic), Henry A. Wallace (True Progressive) [21]


[17]=Wheeler decided to be the bigger man and asked Farmer-Laborites to support Roosevelt

[18]=Roosevelt pushed a more Liberal agenda than he did OTL. That, and with a coalition of Progressives and Farmer-Laborites, the Electoral college was abolished. Roosevelt thought about running for a 3rd term due to the mess in Europe, but he decided not to

[19]=Paul McNutt went on random ramblings during his campaign speeches ("Congratulations Eleanor Roosevelt for graduating college" "This is sickening, Willkie has disgusting affairs" "Due to popular demand. 'Paul, where is your speech on the war?'") which is why the Democrats suffered a huge loss

[20]=The Progressives and Farmer Laborites decided to merge into the Progressive-Farmer-Labor party, choosing Speaker Sam Rayburn as their nominee. Rayburn's presidency went OK until the bombing of Pearl Harbor. This dragged the US into World War 2. World War 2 goes as OTL. When World War 2 ended, the economy was doing bad, and it appears that a Republican might win this. And Rayburn's decision to run for a 3rd term ("Go with a man you've trust before") But after Taft won the GOP nomination, Rayburn's campaign decided to go on the offensive, attacking the GOP-dominated congress, and Taft's unyielding Conservatism and Isolationism Rayburn won in 1948, becoming the first president to win a 3rd term

[21]=Henry Wallace was disappointed in Rayburn's percieved Moderate image. So much so that he ran on the "True Progressive" ticket. He only won Iowa
 
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