Land of cotton, old times there are not forgotten : Redux
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"A major race riot broke out today blamed on the opening of various jobs to competition to our negro citizens. The leader of the Confederate Iron Workers Union said 'Them boys are getting mighty uppity. Today they want to be steel workers, next they will want to be foreman or supervisors. When will this all end? We need to keep them where they belong, mopping floors and heavy lifting. That is all their animal minds are capable of anyways."
ZHEI Radio Broadcast Birmingham , Ala Jan 5th 1977
The Mexican Army tried to cross the Rio Grande in the face of the 5th CSA Army and was driven back in the 1st Battle of the Rio Grande. The Confederates then pursued the fleeing Mexican Army into the desert. The Confederates thought the war turned in their favor, but it was not to be. The war was starting a new phase where the two armies pushed each other across the desert without being able to land a fatal blow.
The Mexican Army wound up all the way back to Copper Canyon before it could be bolstered by two more corps then counterattacked in the Battle of Copper Canyon. The battle went back and forth all day until Major General Antonio Ramirez was able to flank the confederates with the 3rd Mexican Cavalry. The outflanked confederates went reeling back towards home again. They came back short food and water and many dropped dead from disease on the way back. It took months for those units to fully recover. The next time they faced the Mexican Army it would be in Texas.
The Mexican Navy did better. After the Battle of Galveston it landed troops to conduct raids along the Texas coastline, freeing slaves, looting plantations and wrecking railroads. Mexican gunboats shelled Confederate Army positions and a number of harbors. A couple of CSA divisions were sent to the coastline and Tredegar Steel Mill moved some of their production from field guns to coastal guns....
The Mexican-CSA War Albert Smyth University of Phoenix Press 1942
ZHEI Radio Broadcast Birmingham , Ala Jan 5th 1977
The Mexican Army tried to cross the Rio Grande in the face of the 5th CSA Army and was driven back in the 1st Battle of the Rio Grande. The Confederates then pursued the fleeing Mexican Army into the desert. The Confederates thought the war turned in their favor, but it was not to be. The war was starting a new phase where the two armies pushed each other across the desert without being able to land a fatal blow.
The Mexican Army wound up all the way back to Copper Canyon before it could be bolstered by two more corps then counterattacked in the Battle of Copper Canyon. The battle went back and forth all day until Major General Antonio Ramirez was able to flank the confederates with the 3rd Mexican Cavalry. The outflanked confederates went reeling back towards home again. They came back short food and water and many dropped dead from disease on the way back. It took months for those units to fully recover. The next time they faced the Mexican Army it would be in Texas.
The Mexican Navy did better. After the Battle of Galveston it landed troops to conduct raids along the Texas coastline, freeing slaves, looting plantations and wrecking railroads. Mexican gunboats shelled Confederate Army positions and a number of harbors. A couple of CSA divisions were sent to the coastline and Tredegar Steel Mill moved some of their production from field guns to coastal guns....
The Mexican-CSA War Albert Smyth University of Phoenix Press 1942
Nice, the land war is a stalemate but the sea belongs to Mexico. I wonder how the Mexicans living in Texas will react to the troops there.
Yeah, at sea the Mexicans have more ships, a military genius and a handful of ships more modern than anything the CSA had . The Mexicans in Texas are no more than quietly hopeful at the moment. There has been noting but some raids so far.
I have an idea that I might use in the next post. I had the US government move its Black population to Arizona near the CSA borders with an armed militia. The CSA would certainly have forts and cavalry patrols to try and prevent large scale liberation of slaves by armed Blacks. With the war going on some of those troops and cavalry will be pulled in to the fighting. So what about some gun smuggling in Texas that help in the uprising? I was earlier going to have Native American raids but I forgot this at the time and it won't work as their would be US troops in the way
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Particularly since this is taking place during the second Robert Todd Lincoln Administration and he wouldn't be upset at hurting the South . I was planning to make it "secret" with plausible deniability. Officially it is being done by Blacks who want their families freed , which is true as far as it goes but it does get unadmited backing from the administration. The "book entry" would mention it as a suspicion but never proven.
Might even use it as an excuse to test out new ideas in war, if you can find some deniable officers to send down for observation.
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City of Corpus Christie Ad 1977
Major General Antonio Ramirez met Major General Albert Hall 20 miles south of San Antonio to start the San Antonio Campaign. The campaign came within 5 miles of San Antonio before General Ramirez had to withdraw due to increasing CSA reinforcements and lack of supplies. He was harassed the entire retreat by CSA cavalry and light infantry. Mexican stragglers, ammunition and much needed food was captured. The Confederates were also able to eat the horses that dropped dead on the way back. All it was a big defeat for Mexico they learned one thing they never forgot, don't go that far north. Something that took the Confederates three years to figure out in the War of Confederate Independence.
In the meanwhile there were a number of uprisings in Southeastern Texas. The biggest one was 40 miles SE of Laredo which consisted of a combination of Negroes and Mexicans. They were massacred by the Texas 4th cavalry on Aug 5th. There was even a minor one as far north as Crystal City. There are rumors that the rifles were secretly supplied by the Lincoln Administration as they were relatively new for rebelling slaves. The Lincoln Administration denied it and it was never proved.
The guerrilla problem was a major nuisance to the Confederacy. It tied significant numbers of CSA infantry and cavalry holding down at least 1 infantry corps and 1 cavalry division. They could well have proved useful in later battles. Large numbers of slaves were escaping south into Mexico being freed by the Mexican Army and many were escaping into the Arizona Territory as well since slave patrols became much lessened during the fighting. Sadly many slaves died when their masters started moving them east away from the threatening Mexican Army with most buying land in Arkansas and Mississippi .
The Mexican-CSA War Albert Smyth University of Phoenix Press 1942
City of Corpus Christie Ad 1977
Major General Antonio Ramirez met Major General Albert Hall 20 miles south of San Antonio to start the San Antonio Campaign. The campaign came within 5 miles of San Antonio before General Ramirez had to withdraw due to increasing CSA reinforcements and lack of supplies. He was harassed the entire retreat by CSA cavalry and light infantry. Mexican stragglers, ammunition and much needed food was captured. The Confederates were also able to eat the horses that dropped dead on the way back. All it was a big defeat for Mexico they learned one thing they never forgot, don't go that far north. Something that took the Confederates three years to figure out in the War of Confederate Independence.
In the meanwhile there were a number of uprisings in Southeastern Texas. The biggest one was 40 miles SE of Laredo which consisted of a combination of Negroes and Mexicans. They were massacred by the Texas 4th cavalry on Aug 5th. There was even a minor one as far north as Crystal City. There are rumors that the rifles were secretly supplied by the Lincoln Administration as they were relatively new for rebelling slaves. The Lincoln Administration denied it and it was never proved.
The guerrilla problem was a major nuisance to the Confederacy. It tied significant numbers of CSA infantry and cavalry holding down at least 1 infantry corps and 1 cavalry division. They could well have proved useful in later battles. Large numbers of slaves were escaping south into Mexico being freed by the Mexican Army and many were escaping into the Arizona Territory as well since slave patrols became much lessened during the fighting. Sadly many slaves died when their masters started moving them east away from the threatening Mexican Army with most buying land in Arkansas and Mississippi .
The Mexican-CSA War Albert Smyth University of Phoenix Press 1942
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Plus, this probably tied down more troops needed to move them AND keep them in line....
And spread around all sorts of fun stories for the slaves to tell, because if they were winning the war, why get moved around?
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And the CSA is not a nice place. Hell you have it paralleling the horribleness of other places in the hemisphere.
"A riot broke out today in Mexico City. The riot started when a protest over the numbers of Confederate citizens being allowed in the country during a time of recession. Jose Valentín the leader of the protest said ' We need to keep these lowly Confederates out of Mexico. They are mostly uneducated Blacks who do nothing but drive down wages of hard working Mexicans and run up government expenses by using our hospitals, schools and emergency services. They should get back to the Confederacy where they belong.' There has been a protest at the Academy of San Carlos over the 'Overtly racist remarks of Mr. Valentín. ' More on this story at 10 PM" said the sultry voice of Alexandria Martinez.
ATRZ Mexico City TV broadcast Apr3,1971
Confederate control south of the Nuances crumbled as the presence of the Mexican Army, rebelling Mexican inhabitants of Texas and slaves took its toll. The CSA Army spent almost as much time fighting rebellions as fighting the Mexican Army. The Mexican Army took advantage of this by hammering the Confederates again and again such as the 2nd Battle of Laredo where the Mexican Army helped avenge the massacre that took place there. There was a major Mexican victory at Beeville (Which voted to retain its English name after the war due to the fame the small town gained due to the battle) which virtually destroyed 2 Confederate Cavalry Divisions and badly mauled 4 infantry.
After this the Confederate government threw in the towel. It ceded the territory south of the Nuances , a number of islands off the Texas coast and an indemnity of $10 billion CS (Approximately $10,000,000 US) payable over 20 years at 7% interest. The Mexican-Confederate War was the only aggressive war in Confederate history. Finally resigned to the fact that it was surrounded by more powerful neighbors it never again attempted wars of conquest. The Confederate Army reformed after the war as Major General Jason Mallow who had the winningest record in the Confederate Army introduced tactics he developed during the war to the whole Confederate Army. Cavalry was reduced to being entirely a scouting force. They were taught to report back as soon as they had good information on the enemy and not to conduct any offensive operations. The Confederate Navy further shrank and the Confederacy relied almost entirely on coastal guns, torpedo boats and eventually submarines.
The Lee Administration was entirely wrecked . Instead of a short , glorious war he led the country into a disaster which led to the loss of territory in Southern Texas. Mocked for losing against "Lowly, brown Mexican barbarians" he was considered a mere shadow compared to his illustrious father. The Confederate Government virtually ignored Lee for the remainder of his term outside of confirming the Treaty of Mexico City. The very humbled Lee died two years later of pneumonia.
The Mexican-CSA War Albert Smyth University of Phoenix Press 1942
ATRZ Mexico City TV broadcast Apr3,1971
Confederate control south of the Nuances crumbled as the presence of the Mexican Army, rebelling Mexican inhabitants of Texas and slaves took its toll. The CSA Army spent almost as much time fighting rebellions as fighting the Mexican Army. The Mexican Army took advantage of this by hammering the Confederates again and again such as the 2nd Battle of Laredo where the Mexican Army helped avenge the massacre that took place there. There was a major Mexican victory at Beeville (Which voted to retain its English name after the war due to the fame the small town gained due to the battle) which virtually destroyed 2 Confederate Cavalry Divisions and badly mauled 4 infantry.
After this the Confederate government threw in the towel. It ceded the territory south of the Nuances , a number of islands off the Texas coast and an indemnity of $10 billion CS (Approximately $10,000,000 US) payable over 20 years at 7% interest. The Mexican-Confederate War was the only aggressive war in Confederate history. Finally resigned to the fact that it was surrounded by more powerful neighbors it never again attempted wars of conquest. The Confederate Army reformed after the war as Major General Jason Mallow who had the winningest record in the Confederate Army introduced tactics he developed during the war to the whole Confederate Army. Cavalry was reduced to being entirely a scouting force. They were taught to report back as soon as they had good information on the enemy and not to conduct any offensive operations. The Confederate Navy further shrank and the Confederacy relied almost entirely on coastal guns, torpedo boats and eventually submarines.
The Lee Administration was entirely wrecked . Instead of a short , glorious war he led the country into a disaster which led to the loss of territory in Southern Texas. Mocked for losing against "Lowly, brown Mexican barbarians" he was considered a mere shadow compared to his illustrious father. The Confederate Government virtually ignored Lee for the remainder of his term outside of confirming the Treaty of Mexico City. The very humbled Lee died two years later of pneumonia.
The Mexican-CSA War Albert Smyth University of Phoenix Press 1942
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