Flag Thread III
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It's made up but it has meaning in the world it's from.
"There are 5 Values from which the Empire rises; Veritas, Virtus, Vindicta, Vita, Victoria (Truth, Virtue, Revenge, Life, Victory). All 5 are held down by the Sword of Justness and Purity of which the Emperor and Empress wield." - The History of Avalon, Volume 2: Our Glorious Rise, Chapter 3; How Do We Survive?, Written by Messor Scientia
I must take a look at it in NS, when I can (but, alas, my workplace -- at which I am typing this -- has blocked that site). I'm Bears Armed, whose national flag is posted below.Ah, well it's a direct evolution of that flag. The Innucinsari flag started off as the "flag of evil", then got a bit less evil, then got a bit more evil (NationStates called my country a "psychotic dictatorship", so I decided to roll with it), and has now just decided to just be weird, as recent changes in Innucinsar's government and society have been rather unconventional, and the Innucinsaris want to celebrate their newfound weirdness.
The acorns and pine-cones both symbolise prosperity (and thus also the peace that is smelled as being a prerequisite for that condition), pine-cones on dark green for the Northlands and acorns on medium green for the [more temperate] 'Mainland', and the Bear's paw -- in gold for sunhine, and honey -- is not only a sign of ownership but a rebus [which is a sort of visual pun, used for example in OTL heraldry] on the nation's name.
I designed it, but another player (whose name I've unfortunately lost during the intervening years
) did most of the actual drawing.
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Flag of Bears Armed's Northlands.
Upper border represents the northern seas, grey lower border represents the range of mountains that [almost] cuts it off from the human-dominated lands to the south, and the two "pawed" panels represent the Northlanders' two main origins.
Upper border represents the northern seas, grey lower border represents the range of mountains that [almost] cuts it off from the human-dominated lands to the south, and the two "pawed" panels represent the Northlanders' two main origins.
Flag of Bears Armed's diplomatic mission at the World Assembly (which was called the 'United Nations' until the RL UN threatened the game's owner with a lawsuit): This is actually based on an older flag for the country's 'Mainland' section.
(My design work; paw originally drawn for me by the player behind the former nation of Baranxtu...)
(My design work; paw originally drawn for me by the player behind the former nation of Baranxtu...)
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I like these flags, any symbolism for the colors?
One of the goofier of the designs. I do like the look
White is the white race, black is the black race, and red is communism? Or is red Amerindians?
I like the symbol too, does the chain represent the end of slavery?
It would be nice to see some call back to the old CSA flag, but often times historically communist flags had nothing to do with historic flags, so its not a big deal.
Dorozhand
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The one with the canton and red stripe is based on the "Blood Stained Banner" used briefly at the end of 1865. While any timeline with a CSA victory that uses it assumes that it wouldn't be butterlied, it is understandable given its aesthetic distinctiveness as a proper CS national flag.
The difference between it and the battle flag is like the difference between "God Save the South" and "Dixie". One is well known, but the other is much more anthemic.
The colors has two meanings each. White is both the White Race and the pure Values of the nation. Black is the Black Race and the determination of the people. Red is Communism, which binds both races, and for blood; both blood shed in revolution and as reminder that all men bleed the same.
The Wheat is for agriculture, the Hammer for industry, and the Chain for the end of Slavery of both races (Blacks from White Owners, Whites from Corporations).
"Black men, throw off your Physical Chains! White men, throw off your Mental Chains! Together we shall overthrow the Corporate Kings that enlave us all! -CPCSA Pamphlet
That is correct! I like the Banner better personally, and it is much easier to work with than the battle flag.
Sounds like the CSA is still pretty racist. An interesting and original take on the CSA, and not entirely implausible.
Very nice commie flags for the CSA. Or should it be PCA? People's Confederacy of America? What would the equivalent for "soviet" be in America? In Spain it was Syndicates, in France it could have been Communes, in Greece it could have been Boulé, etc etc. Soviet it a very Russian-only concept.
If the first Communist country had been Germany, "soviet" wouldn't mean much to us by now. Or not as much as, I don't know. "Rat" or "Tag". The Volkstag, I guess, for instance.
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Well, here's a bit of something else. Someone, long ago, posted a tricolour representing the untied most powerful countries on Earth: the US, China and the EU. Red, blue and blue, and the three stars: gold, gold and silver.
I liked the concept a lot, but I have always preferred horizontal tricolours. So I went and made my own versions:
And since solid on solid looks bad, let's add some bands, although I've never liked them on flags:
And finally, the version the Chinese use, I suppose:
EDIT: Some weird banding there. It doesn't appear on my file. I guess it must be Imageshack resizing issues.
If the first Communist country had been Germany, "soviet" wouldn't mean much to us by now. Or not as much as, I don't know. "Rat" or "Tag". The Volkstag, I guess, for instance.
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Well, here's a bit of something else. Someone, long ago, posted a tricolour representing the untied most powerful countries on Earth: the US, China and the EU. Red, blue and blue, and the three stars: gold, gold and silver.
I liked the concept a lot, but I have always preferred horizontal tricolours. So I went and made my own versions:
And since solid on solid looks bad, let's add some bands, although I've never liked them on flags:
And finally, the version the Chinese use, I suppose:
EDIT: Some weird banding there. It doesn't appear on my file. I guess it must be Imageshack resizing issues.
I was thinking the Southron Confederation of America. Southron being an old term for "people of the South". It was used archaically in England but it is an English word that's much more interesting and fitting than just "People's"
Here's some word for an english speaking country, maybe:
commons (as in the house of, or the common land), congress, guild, assembly, council, caucus (lots of potential here), parley, conclave, congregation, board, body, cabinet, conclave, ministry, synod, collective.
Inspiretion could be drawn from these, I hope.
Dorozhand
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"Union of Collective Socialist Republics" was always the obvious choice for me if the intent is parallelism.
Since Soviet hails from rural origins and is a word of long evolution, I'd say "common" or "commune" make more sense, in parallel. Union of Common Socialist Republics", or "Union of Socialist Communes".
On the other hand, we also have Commonwealth, but that could be the British version of the USSR, the Commonwealth of Labour or something like that.
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