Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by Enigmajones, Oct 18, 2011.
Mine would be Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip from It Cant Happen Here.
I must say. . . favorite despot is a toss up between: Norman Arminger, Lord Protector of the Portland Protective Association or Adenoid Hynkel, the Great Dictator. First of all...part of me just loves the idea of a history professor transforming into an evil bastard willing to name himself Lord Protector. Secondly, well...who doesn't love Charlie Chaplin?
Keith Laumer's Brion Bayard of Bl-2.
Vetinari from Discworld, of course.
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Mustafa Mond, as he is a largely unwilling one only doing it for the good of the masses.
Arminger or Hynkel? Definitely Hynkel.
I wouldn't call Mond a despot. Its pretty hard to call anyone in Brave New World a despot. Considering who they are ruling over and his arguments about Cyprus for example. Its a horrible world for a normal man, or an independent thinking Alpha, but otherwise I can't imagine anyone thinking of Mond as a tyrant.
He has pretty massive power and no election. Sure, he wasn't ruthless, but he wasn't democratic either.
Yes but it was impossible to have a democratic system in BNW. If they even had elections, he would be reelected every single time.
True, but he still fits the definition of a despot, not a tyrant, but a despot. He's my favourite because he's trying to do the right thing. Though BNW seriously needs automation.
Yeah he's one of my favorite leaders of all fiction. I just never thought of him as a tyrant. Which is off because Buzz Windrip was democratically elected and he becomes a Tyrant.
But the point of Brave New World is that society produces more than people need. If you introduce more automation, you have more idle time and thus more ennui.
Exactly, when they gave the Delta's in Ireland free time, the use of Soma increased by around 40%.
Ming the Merciless.
I was thinking get rid of the lower castes and replace them with automatons. I mean it really would seem like a dystopia if the world were all Alphas and Betas with machines doing Gamma and Epsilon work.
William Walker from Island in the Sea of Time
I kinda like Baron Klaus Wolfenbach from Girl Genius, and General Tarquin from The Order of the Stick is delightfully genre-savvy.
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