DBWI: Happy Dies Natalis Sol Invicti!

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Emperor Julian, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. Emperor Julian Apostata

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Location:
    Atlanta, Georgia
    Happy Dies Natalis Sol Invicti everyone! Even though this holiday began as a day to worship the Unconquered Sun, it still has secular meaning as a day to celebrate family and generosity. If the Solar Cult had never risen to dominate Europe and the Near East, would be be celebrating some other god upon this day?
     
  2. Willmatron World Wanderer

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2012
    Location:
    Nexus of some realities.
    Most likely Isis.
     
  3. Malta Kirked

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2007
    Location:
    Baltimare
    Praise the Unconquered Sun
     
  4. NCW8 Just Chilling

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    Location:
    Baselland
    A Merry Yuletide to everyone !
     
  5. Beedok I exist.

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2008
    Location:
    Centauri Commonwealth
    Crazy sun worshippers. :p
     
  6. Superaquaspiderbatman Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2012
    Exactly :p But Happy Chanukkah everyone!
     
  7. RomanNumeralII Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2010
    Location:
    Virginia
    I doubt it. With Saturnalia ending only two days ago, I've never seen the need for another holiday so soon after. I mean I'm still too full from the Saturnalia dinners to even think of anything else.
     
  8. ArKhan ಠ_ಠ dance monkey. dance. ಠ_ಠ

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2007
    Location:
    Land of the weirdos
    You people are so superstitous. The sun is powered by the same atomic processes that fire the Solaris Electric Plants. Not some magicaly nonsense. I swear, it's just like is Socrates time, reason is declining and ignorance and superstition rule the day.
     
  9. Hobbesian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2008
    Location:
    byzantion
    ugh not this again. look sol invictus is not just about sun itself. it's about how the energias of the sun come to feed the plants, critters and men of terra. he is eternal and all-powerful; the physical sol is his manifestation AND gift to men, showing us every day of his benevolence, and the example of nurturing love for us emulate while reminding us to be humble as all live under His gaze. so please don't take the literalists' word for it and do some reading of your own.

    if i had a denarius every time a boy-loving hellen bitched about Him wihout even reading his Sc. Augustine or the Mandata..
     
  10. Elfwine Byzantophilic Brony

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2010
    Location:
    West of Constantinople
    OOC: Was Sol Invictus even considered to be "born" in the sense of Jesus or mortal men?
     
  11. GeorgeUK Nemo me impune lacessit

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2012
    Who knows? There's a minor but significant branch of Judaism that a couple of 4th-Century emperors practised, maybe that would be the dominant religion. :p
     
  12. Joyeux Well-Known Member (Apparently)

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2011
    OOC: No, I don't think so. The thread title should probably be "Happy Dies Sol Invicti!" or "Happy Sunday" :)p).
     
  13. carlton_bach Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2004
    Location:
    Altona, Occupied Denmark
    OOC: Yes and no. Our Lord Mithra was considered to have been born on a specific known day, and his birth was conflated with that of Sol Invictus (who owes more to the various baalim/Iupiter avatars of the East than the original Roman deity Sol). But this was not considered a historical event in the way the birth of Jesus was. It happened "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away", as it were.
     
  14. carlton_bach Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2004
    Location:
    Altona, Occupied Denmark
    OOC: No, there is a clear distinction between Dies Solis (every seven days) and Dies Solis Natalis (every year).
     
  15. MN.Gruber06 Resident Theologian

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Location:
    Upper Mississippi River Valley
    Is there not a minor sect of this currently being practiced in Visconsina and Ninnesotinus? I thought that there was some ethnic tension there recently. Putrid radicals by all accounts regardless.
     
  16. Joyeux Well-Known Member (Apparently)

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2011
    OOC: Ah, I thought Natalis meant something to do with birth.:eek:
     
  17. Sevarics Just Another Gay Guy

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    OOC: It does but the birth of the sun is celebrated in the sense that after this day the days start to get longer again whereas before they were shortening
     
  18. CaliBoy1990 Iconoclastic Liberal.

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Location:
    El Pueblo, East Texas
    Yes indeed. Thankfully, we here in the Victorian[OOC: OTL's North America] nation of Confederation of Kanata pay no heed to such bothersome horse manure. Why, even the natives of Hispania are more rational.....

    But even the most ignorant rural Roman cannot be compared to the people of Neues Saxonrike[OOC: It's in OTL's Rhodesia + Botswana. Think of a nasty mix of Anglo-Saxon England, Nazi Germany, and TL-191's C.S.A., and you'd be about right. :(]. They are living in perpetual ignorance, even if it's of the Ramborgian Rationalist kind, and not magical superstition as in Italy.
     
  19. Sevarics Just Another Gay Guy

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2011
    You weird rationalists up in Kanata... Down here in the Kingdom of Texia we still hold on to the religious traditions passed down to us by our Roman ancestors. Hell, we just had a beautiful weeklong Saturnalia season dedicated to thanking Saturn for all that he has given us in the past year.
     
  20. Petike Sky Pirate Extraordinaire

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2008
    Location:
    Clockpunk Zemplín Kingdom / Franz Josef's Land
    As an Overseas Faithful of the Holy Dhaklada Commonwealth, I worship the Lady and the Lord and the Seal and the Stag. While many of my countrymen would deem this talk about the Sun itself as a god figure to be fairly heretical, I don't mind such words and will refrain from chastising you and your unwise ways, fellow men and women.

    I wish you all well and a succesful new year, may the Lady and Lord, Moon and Sun, Seal and Stag, Beach and Plain bless ye all !

    I, for one, am more than happy that the Windmaster and Wavemaster have not brought too many ill fortunes to the Holy Homeland and to us, the humble Faithful of New Nuthekrofívotracu.

    The likes of you are the reason why the nature of Nuthekrofívotracu and much of the world is failing. And why we, the Faithful, prefer to isolate us and our Holy Commonwealth from people such as you. Do not make fun of the Lord, for he is the reason we are not banished to eternal darkness and hunger !


    (OOC: Read the stuff behind the link for a more in-depth explanation. New Nuthekrofívotracu is the Falklands archipelago and "faithful" is a more theocratically grounded term for "citizen".)