Chaos TL: A world without Genghis Khan's conquests (finished!)

7.6 East Asia, 1500-50
  • East Asia, 1500-50

    @Straha: We'll see.

    And here's East Asia, 1500-50:

    Retcon first:
    1453 (3150, Yin Water Chicken): Assam start paying tribute to the Hong.

    1463 (3160, Yin Water Sheep): Arakan (Assam's neighbor) also becomes part of the Chinese sphere of influence.

    1492 (3189, Yang Water Rat): Sultan of Bengal pays tribute to Hong.

    Since 1500: Overpopulation in China proper leads to the state founding new settlements on Taiwan, later on the Philippine islands too.

    The Indianized states in SE Asia, now influenced by Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese culture, develop new philosophies and religious schools. There are sects which start to pray to the legendary "Yellow Emperor" as a new god, or Confucius himself (who is popular among the SE Asian officials, as a kind of god of bureaucracy).

    1502 (3199, Yang Water Rat): The "Betrayal of Bengal": After the sultan of Bengal requested military and technical advisors from the Hong, who helped him to equip his army with cannons, he stops paying tribute. Chinese traders are ousted from Bengal.

    1509-21: Civil War in Japan after the emperor tries to take power for himself. The war is fought with the new weapons, the Chinese bamboo guns and bronze cannons the Japanese have improved - the samurai have become meaningless. Some of them flee to Ezo (Hokkaido).

    1514: Confucianism state religion in Ava (inner Burma).

    1516-18: Border war in Arakan. Bengal is defeated by Hong vassals, has to retreat.

    1525/26: The Sulu incidence: Chinese merchants are harassed by fanatical Muslims in the Sulu sultanate. After the emperor sends a Treasure fleet, the problems can be solved - but at the court, some people start to criticize Islam, seeing it as a problem for the divine order.

    1529 (3226, Yin Earth Rabbit): Russian-Orthodox monks come to China to missionarize, meet to their surprise the Nestorian communities.

    1533-36: After another incident on Aceh, Chinese troops are sent to punish the sultan. While they can control the sea, the army landed on Sumatra is defeated.

    1539/40: Melaka attacks Aceh with Chinese help, annexes it.

    1548 (3245, Yang Earth Dog): A Russian delegation is received at the court in Nanjing.

    Read [post=686770]about the Japanese Trade Empire[/post]!
     
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    8.1 Middle East 1550-1600
  • Middle East 1550-1600

    @HelloLegend: If you had read the TL carefully, you'd have found out that since the not-happened Mongol invasion of Japan in 1274 everything changed in the country. The last recognizable charcter from OTL is Hojo Sadatoki who died in 1311.
    @Admiral Matt: Yes, Scotland reigns all of Ireland now (although the reign is more loose than the English one).

    And here's Middle East 1550-1600:

    ~1550: Arab captains in the Red Sea start to equip their ships with European iron cannons, which are superior to the Chinese bronze cannons, start piracy in the Indian Ocean.

    1556-65: England-Castille-Portugal declares war on the Seljuks, enraged over the fate of Rome. Savoy and Florence join the war.

    1559: Rome reconquered by Christians; all the Muslims found there are massacred.

    1562: Sea battle of Malta; Seljuk-Barbary fleet decimated.

    1565: Peace of Ostia. Seljuks give up Latium (to Florence) and the Marches, Algiers, Tunis and Sicily (to E-C-P). The Romans displaced ~20 years ago return in triumph. The victorious Italians demand that the Pope returns to Rome, which the French king denies.

    1567-74: France, Venice and the HRE declare war on the weakened Seljuks.

    1569: French land at Port Said, conquer the city.

    1571: Seljuks conquer Port Said back.

    1572: After another uprising of the Carbonari, Florence joins the war, attacks Naples.

    1574: Peace of Krems (Austria). Seljuks have to cede Dalmatia to Venice, the county of Naples to Florence, Salzburg to Bavaria, Austria to Württemberg-Carinthia and western Hungary to France. Francois of Bourbon elected new king of Hungary.

    1577: A Seljuk-Omani fleet defeats a Chinese Treasure fleet, takes unbelievable riches with them.

    1580-82: The former tributary Georgia is made a Seljuk province. Protests and uprisings are put down, not without cruelty.

    1586: Arab pirates take the Maledives, extend their radius.

    1591: Arab pirates capture several cities on Sri Lanka.

    Read [post=689078]a little travelogue here[/post]!
     
    8.2 Western / Northern Europe, 1550-1600
  • Western / Northern Europe, 1550-1600

    @Admiral Matt: As so often - we'll see. I have to write some more about economical, social, religious, scientific and cultural changes - but not now.

    @NFR: Foo, that's a long post... but let's see.

    Cathay / Kitai: Yes... but IOTL this term was coined by Marco Polo, who didn't exist ITTL. For many centuries, Russia (and all of Europe) was seperated by China by many hostile states and steppe riders, and there never was a big Mongol empire which removed all inner borders. Asian-European trade only grew slowly from 12th century (pre-Genghis) level, so China is even more legendary than OTL. When Russian traders finally make it to Hong China, education and culture is on a higher level, so they adapt the real name and only russify it a bit: Zhongguo - Chunkwo.

    Trade pattern: Similar - people sell what they've got and others want.

    One correction: "1538-40: Clash with Choresmian troops and Mongol (and related) warriors. The merchants of Novorossiya ask the Grand Prince for help, which they don't get - which they won't forget."

    About Kipchakia / Polovtsia: Wait for next update about Russia... but for the moment, here's...


    Western / Northern Europe, 1550-1600:

    Since 1550: The growing trade with East Asian goods (although many are still forbidden, or at least scolded at) leads people to think about a possibility to take out the middle man (the Seljuks in the South, the Russians in the North). In France, it's suggested that a conquest of the Sinai would allow them to sail the spice routes.

    1551-56: The new king of England-Castille-Portugal is willing to scrap Caesaropapism, so the council of Ghent is started. After long discussions, the western churches are reunited. In return, some of the Occidental reforms [1] are introduced in the rest of the world too. Plus, the theologians from various countries, where printing is widespread meanwhile, decide an important change in the doctrine: Instead of good works, only the belief in God is what counts. The most important change (which was necessary for England-Castille-Portugal and many other countries), however, is that the church can't claim back its secularized property.
    Now the pope is the highest spiritual authority in all of Western Europe again. But now, people started to question him...

    1555: Alasdair / Alexander of Scotland and Ireland ends the Danish Civil War, becomes new king of Denmark.

    1560: King Henry of E-C-P reorders his kingdoms. The two halves of Portugal are reunited under him as king; the traditional division of the colonies (Portugal in Africa except Morocco, Castille in Morocco and the Caribbean, England in North Atlantis) is changed a bit: English merchants of the Atlantean Company get the islands of Jamaica and All Saints (OTL Trinidad) for sugar plantages.

    1562: Alasdair elected king of Norway, returning in triumph.

    1567: Swedish regent Sten deposed after one of his young nephews dies suddenly under unclear circumstances. Alasdair becomes king of Sweden. He now has the crowns of five kingdoms (not even counting Finland).

    1570s: "The golden years". All the great Western European states - England-Castille-Portugal, France, and Alasdair's empire have competent, popular rulers who live in peace with each other. Style of Occidentalism(o) at its height.

    1580s: Biggest uprisings in Morocco and Algeria yet.

    1586: After the sons of Charles VIII died without heirs, their second-grade cousin Francois of Berry becomes new king of France. He is anything but popular, but fortunately, he'll die one year later already.

    1588: Death of Alasdair. His vast lands are divided: Scotland and Ireland go to his elder son Alexander, Scandinavia to his younger son Christian / Kristian.

    1595: The nobles of Sweden depose king Kristian after the lost war against Vladimir, elect Albrecht / Albert of Mecklenburg new king.

    1599: The kings Henry of E-C-P and Francois agree to solve their conflict in Aragon in a way that satisfies them both: Aragon is divided - Murcia and the lands south of the Ebro go to E-C-P, the lands north of it, plus the Baleares, Navarre and Sardinia (which is sold to Florence, though) to France.

    [1] The Occidental church under king Edward V introduced many original laws. One part of them was directed against trade with Muslim countries, so some luxuries (silk, Syrian glassworks, East Asian spices, some radicals even demanded incense) were forbidden or severely taxed, while Occidental Christians were encouraged to replace them with Atlantean luxuries (furs, tobacco, cayenne peppers). Other new laws preached by the church heavily discriminated Jews and Muslims - a big stain, since it also meant that Arab and Hebrew books could only be acquired under great difficulties.

    Read about [post=691873]the meeting of the two most powerful kings[/post] (long story)!
     
    8.3 Rest of the world, 16th century
  • Rest of the world, 16th century

    @NFR: Yes, it should be rather "Chunkvo" than "Chunkwo". I was thinking in German, and in German the Cyrillian "B" is transcripted as "w" rather than "v" in English.
    I chose the name to express that the educated Russians will choose sooner or later a more correct name than China or Khitai, since they're admiring China.

    @everyone: Commenting [thread=32412]my stories[/thread] would be nice...

    Rest of the world, 16th century:

    1510s: Due to rising prices for slaves, Portuguese slave traders expand their "business" into the Congo.

    1513: Kingdom of Benin sends an ambassador to Portugal.

    1516: Muslim troops attack and overrun Ethiopia, ruling it for about two generations.

    1540s: After the Quadruple Monarchy defeats the uprisings in Morocco, many Moroccan warriors flee to Songhay, introducing gunpowder weapons to the country.

    1569: An expedition with a mixed Scandinavian crew under a captain Ingolfsson goes to Africa, sails down the coast along the Portuguese colonies, reaches Cape of Good Hope. They like the climate and tell king Alexander on their return about it.

    Since ~1570: Ashanti confederacy starts to become important, also thanks to its gold riches.

    1574: Scandinavians found the colony of Australafrica (Australia for short) with the capital Alexandersborg (Cape Town).

    1577: Dutch start to make trade with Africa (always threatened, since this is Portuguese turf), also reach Australia. For this time, they have to accept that the Scandinavians came first.

    1582: Scandinavian explorers discover Madagascar, coast of Mozambique.

    1588: Scandinavian explorers reach Zanzibar. When news about this spread to Europe, the attention of the rulers moves away from Atlantis and the promising new ways to India.

    1594: With Scandinavia in trouble, the Dutch use the opportunity and occupy Australia.

    1600: Revolt of the "Söderlinger" (Scandinavians in Australia) against Dutch starts.

    End of 16th century: Kanem-Bornu Empire reaches height of its power.
     
    8.4 Atlantis, 1550-1600
  • Atlantis, 1550-1600

    Since ~1550: Despite France expanding in the Mississippi area, the importance of North Atlantis falls (although the trade with fur and tobacco continues), while the Caribbean (with its sugar riches) becomes more important. The parts of the sugar mills (of which thousands are built) are an important step towards an industrial revolution.
    Cuitláuac starts reconquering lost lands in Northern Mexico, extending to the Atlantic and Pacific again.

    1551-56: At the council of Ghent, the delegates from the various nations also have to decide who should own which Caribbean island, since there are now seven nations represented (counting E-C-P as only one). There's a lot of confusion who discovered which island first, which contrasts with who officially took claim and who settled where first. At the end, all the smaller powers get a few islands, but most hope to change the situation.

    1552: Castillians go up the Rio Grande, found settlements along it, to put a wedge between the French in the Mississippi valley and the Mexica. Later, those colonies become Texas.

    1553: French send an expedition to North Atlantis, discover the Hudson and James Bays, found colonies here, which are called Quebec.

    1554: Braunschweig-Lüneburg forms its second province in Atlantis, called Waldstätten (OTL Pennsylvanian Appalachians). Experienced woodcutters and sawmill builders are invited there from as far as Switzerland.

    1557: English claim the Brazilian coast down to OTL Recife. The area is called Braseal, after the Brazilwood.

    1559-61: French send an expedition up the Mississippi and Arkansas, found St. Louis. The Mississippi area is named Louisiana after the newborn son of the king (who'll die two years old, but that's another story), since there's already a Caroline and a New France around.

    1560s: Inca empire conquers the southern Andes, now rules them from the Caribbean to Terra del Fuego.

    1562: King Henry of E-C-P appoints a viceroy residing at Santiago (at OTL Havana's site) who coordinates governmental activities in the five capitanates / captainships: Caribbea (the islands, except Jamaica, which is under the English crown), Florida, Texas, Mayaland (collective term for all of Central America between the lands of the Tenochca and the French in Panama) and South Atlantis (OTL North Columbia, Venezuela).

    1564: French build some ships in the Pacific, sail down the coast of South Atlantis, cartographing it.

    1565: English expedition reaches Cape Hoorn from the east. The area south of the equator stays barely settled, though.

    1570: French trading with the Inca bring the potato from the Inca empire to Europe. At first, it's treated as a curiosity, or as medicine.

    1572/73: An English expedition explores the area of the river Amazon, reaches the Inca Empire from the East.

    1581: A Castillian expedition crosses the Arizona desert, until they reach the Pacific.

    1586: Another Castillian expedition goes up the Pacific coast of Atlantis, coming to the San Francisco Bay.

    1589: French explore the source of the Tennessee river, find the way to Italia Nuova.

    1590: E-C-P founds the sixth capitanate, of California.

    1595: French start building a small fleet at the Great Lakes.

    Read [post=697222]a Story about the fate of the Muslim slaves in Atlantis[/post]!
     
    8.5 Central Europe, 1550-1600
  • Central Europe, 1550-1600

    Since 1550: The trade of the Netherlands is painfully reduced; while they did most of the Atlantean trade, even that of other nations, England-Castille-Portugal doesn't need them anymore after the war. Economical crisis.

    1560-66: Netherlands make war against the Gottesfreistaat Münster, but are defeated.

    1560s: In the Netherlands, the so-called Puritan movements starts. They are radically against any kind of luxury, especially in the church. Many are expelled, have to go to the colonies in North Atlantis.

    1562: Greifen dynasty dies out, Pomerania inherited by the Hohenzollern.

    1566-70: Brandenburg-Silesia, Bavaria and Thuringia-Meissen (OTL Thuringia and SW Saxony) ally and fight the Bohemian theocracy, annex the Sudetenland.

    1568: Netherlands topple unpopular king Reinald IV, make his younger brother Eduard king.

    1570s: In Florence, the influx of Southern Italians leads to the rich merchants being questioned about their lifestyle. In reaction, the Matthewan movement starts, which defends their wealth. (Like OTL Calvin's teachings, they draw biblical support for their theory from the "Parable of the talents", from the Gospel of Matthew.) The duke rules that the Matthewan interpretation of the bible is the right one, and dissenters are displaced to the mountain areas of Italia Nuova.

    1575: Florence appointed Grand Duchy for its efforts in the war against the Seljuks.

    1577: Estates of Slovakia accept new Hungarian king Ferenc.

    1580-87: Bohemian-Hungarian War. The theocracy of Bohemia is defeated, its king sent to exile in Atlantis, to be safe. Bohemia becomes part of the Bourbon domain.

    1581/82: Gottesfreistaat Münster attacks the little country of Oldenburg, conquers it. Netherlands and Nassau feel seriously threatened, ask E-C-P and France for support. In the Netherlands this doesn't work out because their king dies in an unfortunate moment, but Nassau receives help (French musketeers) and defeats Münster, annexes the territories of Tecklenburg, Ravensberg, Paderborn. The religious dissenters who don't want to reconvert flee, some of them even to Atlantis.

    1584: Alasdair / Alexander of Scotland elected Polish king. There are actually two grandsons of the last king alive, but being underage, the Poles want another king, hoping the mighty Alexander can protect them from the Russians.

    1586: Alexander elected Roman king, as a compromise between France and E-C-P (which kings are both too young anyway).

    1588: Death of Alexander.
    Duke and elector Ernst V of Braunschweig-Lüneburg inherits the lands of the last sideline, Braunschweig-Wolfenbüttel.

    1592-97: Frisia conquered by the Dutch.

    Read [post=699867]a funny war story here[/post]!
     
    8.6 Eastern Europe, 1550-1600
  • Eastern Europe, 1550-1600

    1552: Mongols attack a Novorussian caravan at the Silk Road. When the uninterested Grand Prince again disappoints the merchants, they decide to act. Another delegation sent to the Hong emperor is successful: In exchange for them sending a tribute of furs, wax and honey, he allows them to found trade stations in his empire.

    ~1560: Settlements in Novorossiya as far as upper Amur/Aigun river.

    1561: Novorossiyan cities threatened by Mongols and Muslims form "unofficial official" armies to defend them, instead of the irregular defenders they had so far.

    1567: Dvoryans battle Muslims in Kipchak lands between Don and Donez; Seljuks unable to interfere. Russians proclaim the Dvoryan republic of Polovtsia. (Yes, now there are two republics there, Polovtsia and Kipchakia. I liked the idea of having several states, each named after a different name for the same people. SCNR.)

    1570s: Dvoryans conquer OTL Kalmuk steppe, reach the Caucasus.

    1574: Russians found a trade station in Nanjing. In the decades and centuries following, a "Russian quarter" develops from it (similar in many other cities in the northern Chinese empire and Korea).

    1579: Vladicaucas founded at the same place as IOTL (the name means "rule the Caucasus", it's a logical choice).

    ~1580: Settlements in Novorossiya have reached the Pacific. Since the Russians now have settled OTL Ukraine and Siberia, they start to expand to other areas.

    1580s: The "parties" of Novorossiya start to take form - on the one hand, the "Westerners" who want to preserve ties to Vladimir-Suzdal and Russian traditions, OTOH the "Chunkwophiles" who want to introduce Chinese thoughts they find useful. Ironically, the former are strict defenders of the democratic rights (as in the vyetjes), while the latter have at least some sympathies for the imperial idea.

    1583: Alyeska (Alaska) discovered by Russian sailors.

    1584: Start of the reign of Grand Prince Pyotr of Vladimir-Suzdal, who'll become the first Czar.

    1586-90: Russian-Polovtsian War. All the lands between Dniepr and Don (except the Crimea and Tauria north of it) become Russian.

    1589: Novorossiyan cities start to develop a defense network to coordinate their military.
    Sharukan (OTL Charkov), capital of the Kumans, conquered.

    1590: Kuriles annexed by Novorossiya.

    1591: In Yenisseisk (at OTL Krasnoyarsk's site), a school for Chinese studies is founded, which will later develop into the first university of Novorossiya.

    1592: Vladimir-Suzdal attacks Sweden. For the purpose of the war, a new tax is made, which also has to be paid in Novorossiya. Many people there are angry about the tax.

    1594: Peace of Helsingfors. Scandinavia has to give Estonia and parts of Finland to Russia.

    Read [post=704290]what the university of Yenisseisk will teach in the future[/post]!
     
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    8.7 East Asia, 1550-1600
  • East Asia, 1550-1600

    Since 1550: Burma suffers under a decline in trading.

    1553 (3250, Yin Water Ox): Hong Empire forges a formal military alliance with its SE Asian client kingdoms, directed against Bengal and other possible enemies.

    1561: On Mindanao, Muslim preachers start to criticize the arriving Han disturbing their society and the Hong emperor being overlord of the sultan.

    1564: Tibetan exilees arrive in Bhutan, unite the country for the first time.

    1569-88: Conquest of the Delhi Sultanate by Persia.

    1570: Japanese ships trading with Java discover the North coast of Australia, but aren't interested in this land, like the Chinese and Javans who came before them.

    Since 1575: Arab piracy makes the India trade less profitable, Chinese start to avoid these seas.
    The Vietnamese population has grown, but they can't push into the Champa and Khmer lands. Vietnamese start to emigrate to the Philippines.

    1584 (3281, Yang Wood Monkey): Hong emperor sends troops to Mindanao to put the Muslims back. Chinese soldiers stay on Mindanao to watch the Muslims.

    1594 (3291, Yang Wood Horse): The harbors of SE Asia are closed for Seljuk ships, so the Japanese can fill this gap too.

    Since 1600: Mataram on Java starts to rise its head against the until then dominating but now stagnating Majapahit.

    Read [post=707183]a Manhua [1] review from TTL here[/post]!

    [1] Not the right term ITTL, but I don't want to spoil too much...
     
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    8.8 16th century: Science, summary and a map
  • 16th century: Science, summary and a map!

    @HelloLegend: No, the Hong are quite stable, also thanks to introducing better government methods (see below). There are Mongolians there, but the Great Wall and stronger garnisons than the Song had keep the Mongols out. (They harass the Russians, however.) The mentioned clan was butterflied away since long. The Nuzhen are wedged between Chinese and Russians, and might fall sooner or later to the one or another.

    Before we come to the rest, of few retcons for Atlantis:

    1518/19: Castillians subjugate the first Maya cities.
    (There are/were a lot of political entities around, each of had to be defeated independently, other than the Aztecs or Inca.)

    1527: Huayna Capac doesn't die.

    1528: Huascar, son of Huayna Capac, caught conspiring against his brother, the heir of Huayna Capac, named Ninan Cuyochi.

    1529: Smallpox hit the Mexica... however, the Allies of the Quadruple monarchy aren't better off, so it's a two-sided damage.
    Motehcuhzoma II dies too, Cuitláuac becomes new ruler of the Mexica.

    1532: Huayna Capac dies.

    1549: French monks arrive in the Inca Empire to convert the population to Christianity.

    Since ~1550: After Mexico, the Inca lands adapt a pidgin version of French for communication with the Europeans.

    1550: Mining experts from Europe teach the Inca new techniques to get more silver from OTL Potosi. The Inca use their new riches to buy weapons and tools, and later books and machines from Europeans.

    1552: Silver discovered in Zacatecas.

    1553: Plagues hit Inca empire, killing a great percentage of the population. Chibcha in the North and several more (like the Aymara) in the South become practically independent again.

    1554: Second plague hits Central Atlantis.

    1571: With the help of his French advisors, Inca ruler Sayri Tupaq manages to stabilize his rule in the center of the old empire.

    1583: Second big plague in the reduced Inca empire.

    1586: Third plague hits Central Atlantis. When the dust has settled, only 6 of 15 million Mesoatlanteans survive (and that's still better than OTL!)

    1595: Chachapoyas in the forests of Peru pay allegiance to the Inca again.

    1597: Axayacatl II of Mexico starts to expand the Mexica Empire after long time again.


    History of science in the 16th century:

    General state of the art:

    Western Europe: Some progresses in mathematics, mining, cartography. The reconquests in Italy gave them more Islamic knowledge.

    Islamic World: With the new microscope, blood cells are discovered. Astronomians discover the big Jupiter moons, sun spots and work out the elliptical nature of the solar system. Physicists discover diffraction of the light and calculate the light's velocity. They face one problem, however: Scientists are restricted to use pictures in their works. The printing press is known and used in conquered Italy, Austria and Hungary, but in the other Muslim lands, the mighty guilds of the calligraphs prevent its introduction.

    India: Kerala school goes further on, discovers calculus and proves many mathematical theorems.

    China: Statistics are developed further, being useful for administration (and gambling).

    Read [post=710373]a bit more about how the Hong use statistics[/post]!

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    Summary of the 16th century:

    Atlantis: All Western European countries take some Caribbean islands. The Quadruple monarchy expands greatly, but is restricted in the Occidental War by France, which allies with the Mexica and the Inca, who survive as empires, despite being struck hard by European diseases. The Mississippi and Hudson Bay area becomes part of the French sphere of influence.

    Western und Northern Europe: In the Quadruple Monarchy, the king takes control over the church, founding the Occidental church with some new laws. The churches are reunificated however after the Occidental War, which also leads to the independence of Scotland-Ireland under the quasi-legendary Prince Alasdair, who later also becomes king of Scandinavia. Aragon divided between France and Castille.

    Central Europe: HRE makes reforms, elects French kings Holy Roman Emperors. Florence expands, getting Rome, Naples, Sardinia. Hungary is resurrected by the French, who also conquer the Bohemian theocracy. Venice, Württemberg-Austria and Bavaria make the "Alliance des Alpes" with France.

    Eastern Europe: The Russian states expand greatly, settling Siberia / Novorossiya and taking lands from the Seljuk north of the Black Sea. Vladimir-Suzdal defeats a Western European power, Sweden.

    Muslim world: After initial successes (conquest of Vienna, the Marches, Kipchaks pay them tribute) the Seljuks are defeated several times by the Christians, losing many lands to the Europeans. They also get more and more trouble with the Dvoryans (OTL Cossacks) in the Ukraine.

    East Asia: Hong empire stays dominant, although they clash repeatedly with Muslims (Arab pirates, Bengals, Philippine Muslims). Russians and Chinese make contact. Persia expands into India.

    Rest of the world: Portuguese expand the slave trade to Congo. Scandinavians found a colony ("Australia") in South Africa.


    And here's the map of Europe:
    (yellow is Luxembourg-Tyrol, light pink are the Hohenzollern realms of Franconia-Pomerania, Mecklenburg belongs to Sweden, and the colored areas near the Asov Sea are the Dvoryan republics of Kipchakia and Polovtsia.)

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    9.1 Western / Northern Europe 1600-50
  • Western / Northern Europe 1600-50

    @Constantinople: No, the pope hasn't returned to Rome yet, fearing the Seljuks and being under the influence of the French king.

    @Admiral Matt: The Duchy of the Marches has a status difficult to describe... de jure it's still under the pope, de facto it's a complete puppet state of the Quadruple (now Triple) Monarchy (although not a part of it). They have troops there, collect taxes, appoint officials... everything.

    And now... Western / Northern Europe 1600-50 (fasten your seatbelts, it's gonna be a bumpy ride this time!):

    1600: King Erich / Erik XVI becomes new king in Sweden. He makes many important reforms in the state, especially the army.

    1606: King Henry of E-C-P manages to become accepted as new king of Ireland, after the death of king Alexander V of Scotland.

    1607-11: First Nordic War. Sweden defeats Denmark-Norway, takes Göteborg, Trondheim and Narvik.

    1619-25: King Francois IV, after becoming politically mature, has to cut down the power of the nobles at the court, finally succeeding and making France an absolutist state.

    1620s: The formerly good relations between E-C-P and France cool down dangerously, which is also the fault of the two new monarchs, Henry VI and Francois respectively.

    1628: Castillians and Portuguese start rebelling against king Henry, who proves unable to defeat them. (One of the moments was that his marriage with a Castillian duchess went awry, she told her relatives, they told their friends...).
    King Kristian of Denmark dies without heirs, nobles decide to make duke Ernst V of Braunschweig-Lüneburg new king.
    Scotland becomes an "estates republic", declaring they have the right for that, since there is no legitimate king anymore.

    1628-34: Castillian Civil War. France supports uprisings in Valencia (Aragon south of Ebro river), Portugal.
    Despite of all the chaos and the many factions, the new king Alfonso (former duke of Aliaga) manages to defeat all enemies, keep himself on the throne and also subdue the Aragonese rebels in Valencia. Morocco, however, stays independent, under the former duke of Monteleon.
    Portugal declares its independence (also with French encouraging) under Miguel, former duke of Linhares. He even manages to acquite Olivenca from Spain.

    1630: The army of the Cortes defeats English army landed at Santander.

    1633: Uprisings against king Henry VI start. Begin of the English Civil War (ECW).

    1634: King Henry is captured and banned to Atlantis (i.e. he's put onto a ship which captain was told he has a prisoner to be released in Atlantis.
    Like the nobles used to joke, this was the worst imaginable punishment for the king, who banned that many religious dissenters there.) However, since the king had no heir, the nobles aren't in unison about what to do. They start to fight among each other; the common people dub the war, after the leaders of the most important groups, the Staffords and the Cliffords, "War of the 'fords".

    1636-39: Castille tries to conquer Morocco back, unsuccessfully.

    1638: Uprisings in Ireland start, English are driven back into the Pale.

    1639: Maria, the princess of Spain and future queen (her father Alfonso XII has no son) marries the king of Morocco (not acknowledged by Spain), Francisco of Monteleón. While he brags at the beginning how he is going to "bend that weak woman", the contract she negotiates with him at the end gives her actually the possibility to co-govern in Morocco, while he has nothing to say in Spain or its colonies in Atlantis.

    1641: Dublin has to capitulate to the Irish. Many English flee to England or Markland.

    1642-45: "The Scottish interlude": Scotland tries to expand into Northern England, which makes the Staffords and the Cliffords actually stop their war against each other in 1643 until the Scots are finally driven out.

    1647: The Duke of Stafford becomes new king Humphrey I of England, after defeating and killing his opponent, William of Clifford.

    Read [post=713984]about a great author from the Chaos TL[/post]!


    As a bonus: The kings of Western and Northern Europe, 1500-1650:

    Kings of Scotland and Ireland:
    Alasdair / Alexander IV 1528/47-88
    Alasdair / Alexander V (*1536) 1588-1605
    Christian 1605-28

    Estates republic: 1628-

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    Kings of Great Britain:
    Edward V (*1479) 1492-1547

    Kings of England and Wales:
    Edward V 1547-49 (+1554)
    Edward VI (*1515) 1549-55
    Henry IV (*1539) 1555-82
    Henry V (*1572) 1582-1606

    Kings of England and Ireland
    Henry V 1606-20
    Henry VI (*1600) 1620-34

    Civil War 1634-47

    Stafford dynasty:
    Humphrey I (*1602) 1647-

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    Kings of France:
    Charles VI (*1440) 1488-1506
    Charles VII (*1474) 1506-10
    Charles VIII (*1505) 1510-56
    Charles IX (*1538) 1556-83
    Francois I (*1544) 1583-86

    Dynasty of Berry:
    Francois II (*1539) 1586/87
    Francois III (*1570) 1587-1605
    Francois IV (*1601) 1605-

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    Kings of Castille (English kings):
    Eduardo I 1497-1549
    Eduardo II 1549-55
    Enrique V 1555-82
    Enrique VI 1582-1620
    Enrique VII 1620-28

    1628-34: Civil War

    Aliaga dynasty:
    Alfonso XII (*1587) 1628-

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    Kings of Portugal (English kings):
    Duarte I 1497-1549
    Duarte II 1549-55
    Henrique II 1555-82
    Henrique III 1582-1620
    Henrique IV 1620-28

    Linhares dynasty:
    Miguel (*1590) 1628-42
    Fernando II (*1617) 1642-

    --

    Kings of Aragon:
    Ferran / Ferdinand III 1500-11
    Joan / John IV 1511-34

    Foreign Kings in Aragon:
    Carles 1534-56
    Francesc I 1556-86
    Enric 1586-98
    Francesc II 1598/99

    End of state

    --

    Kings of Denmark:
    Heinrich / Henrik V (*1464) 1486-1515
    Heinrich / Henrik VI (*1495) 1515-41
    Gerhard / Gert II (*1523) 1541

    Civil War 1541-55

    Bruce dynasty:
    Alexander 1555-88
    Christian the Old (*1545) 1588-1628

    Welf dynasty:
    Ernst 1628-34
    Margarethe 1634-44
    Christian II 1644-

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    Kings of Norway:
    Scottish kings, Bruce dynasty:
    David (Daibidh) V (*1466) 1490-1506

    Nobles' republic 1506-23

    Schauenburg dynasty:
    Heinrich / Henrik 1523-41

    Nobles' republic 1541-62

    Bruce dynasty:
    Alexander (*1503) 1562-88
    Kristian 1588-1628

    Welf dynasty:
    Ernst 1628-34
    Margarethe 1634-44
    Kristian II 1644-

    --

    Kings of Sweden:
    Erik XV Birgersson (*1464) 1494-1504 (+1515)

    Bonde dynasty (regents):
    Knut Karlsson (*1465) 1504-20

    Schauenburg dynasty:
    Heinrich / Henrik 1520-41

    Interregnum 1541-44

    Sture dynasty (regents):
    Gustav I (*1502) 1544-52
    Gustav II (*1532) 1552-62
    Sten (*1536) 1562-67 (+1598)

    Scottish Bruce dynasty:
    Alexander 1567-88
    Kristian 1588-95

    Mecklenburger dynasty:
    Albrecht / Albert (*1554) 1595-1600
    Erich / Erik XVI (*1586) 1600-36
    Erich / Erik XVII (*1615) 1636-
     
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    9.2 Middle East 1600-50
  • Middle East 1600-50

    Retcon first:
    1575: The army topples and kills sultan Kay Qubadh V after having lost two wars, replacing him with his son Mas'ud IV.
    In the same year, Muslim refugees from Naples (mostly merchants replaced by the Florentines, but some scientists too) arrive in Constantinople. The bring the printing press, which was used until then only in Seljuk Italy (and Austria, which was Seljuk only for a few deacdes anyway). The mighty guilds of the calligraphers protest.

    1581: The sultan rules that the printing press may be used for government jobs only. This will lead in the long run to a better administration, higher literacy and wider spread science in the Seljuk empire.

    1584: The young sultan makes treaties with Persia and Choresm, the other big Muslim powers, to be able to use his full power against the Europeans.

    Middle East 1600-50:

    1599-1604: England-Castille-Portugal and France fight the Seljuks together. In the peace of Naples, Seljuks have to give parts of South Italy (Pescara, Benevent) to Florence, the Ionian islands and Crete to Venice, the Sinai to France and core Hungary to Bourbon Hungary. All of Algeria and Tunisia are left to E-C-P.

    1605: France starts building many ships in Suez, making it a big trade center, starts competing with Arabs for trade in the Indian Ocean.
    Mas'ud IV is toppled by the army and replaced by his brother Süleyman VI.

    1606-13: Russian-Kuman War. The Dvoryan republic of Polovtsia now covers all the lands between Don and Dnepr, except for Tauria (the bit between Crimea and last part of Dnepr). The Seljuks are unable to support their tributary.

    1610s: Arab pirates start plundering coastal cities of Vijayanagar.

    1623: Arab pirates defeated by a combined navy of Hindu and Hong. Maledives lost.

    1629: France uses the opportunity to grab Algeria, where the Castillian rule isn't firm enough yet. In the following centuries, it becomes a source for slaves and a place of settlement for French and other Southern Europeans (coming from as far as Bavaria, Austria and Hungary).

    1635-46: Second French-Seljuk War. In the peace of Györ, Bourbon Hungary acquires Croatia, Slavonia, Transsylvania and the Banat, Venice the Peloponnes, Florence the northern half of South Italy. The Italians grumble, however, because they think their share is too small.

    1638: Grand Duke Piero III of Florence dies fighting the Seljuks.

    1647: After the lost war, sultan Mas'ud V is toppled by the army too, replaced with his young son Kilij Arslan V.

    Since 1650: Seperated from the rest of the Seljuk empire, the governors of Egypt start to aim for more independence.

    After the fifth defeat in a row, Seljuk intellectuals (for lack of a better word) suggest a different policy - instead of trying to regain a foot in Europe, the Empire should try to build up a "Greater Seljuk Empire", including many areas in Persia and Choresm, like the empire of sultan Saladin.

    Read [post=716094]about a remnant of the Seljuks in Europe[/post]!


    Bonus: Seljuk Sultans 1350-1650
    Kay Khusrau IV (in Rum) 1348-77
    Kilij Arslan IV (in Konya) 1348-57
    Kay Qubadh III 1377-90
    Süleyman III 1390-1421
    Mas'ud III 1421-39
    Süleyman IV 1439-65
    Kay Khusrau V 1465-75
    Kay Qubadh IV 1475-96
    Kay Khusrau VI 1496-1514

    Süleyman V 1514-33
    Kay Khusrau VII 1533-62
    Kay Qubadh V 1562-75
    Mas'ud IV 1575-1605
    Süleyman VI 1605-12
    Kay Khusrau VIII 1612-43
    Mas'ud V 1643-47
    Kilij Arslan V 1647-
     
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    9.3 Atlantis 1600-50
  • Atlantis 1600-50

    1606: After many years of war, the Chichimecs (N Mexico) are completely conquered; their lands are divided between Castillians and Mexica.

    1613/14: English-Polish War. Poland loses OTL Trinidad, Haraldsborg to England.

    1614: University of Cuzco founded. Inca start to acquire European knowledge.

    1619: Ahuitzotl II starts building a Mexican war fleet, to protect their trade against pirates.

    1620-24: OTL Northern Peru and Ecuador reconquered by Inca empire.

    1624: Incident in the Caribbean leads to E-C-P troops occupying the Florentine islands in the Caribbean (except Elba Nuova).

    1628: When England-Castille-Portugal breaks apart in the Old World, most of the colonies declare their loyalty to Spain (former Castille, right). Only a few islands in the Caribbean and the northern colonies in OTL Canada and New England stay loyal to king Henry VI.

    1629: In Atlantis, French-Spanish border is moved south, giving Virginia (OTL Georgia - named after the Virgin Mary) to France now.

    1631: Sea battle of Jamaica. Castillians occupy English colonies in the Caribbean. England falls into financial crisis.

    1632: France's ally Denmark-Braunschweig defeats the Dutch in Atlantis in the battle of Nieuw Brugge (OTL Easton, PA - later renamed Neubrück).

    1633: University of Tenochtitlan founded.

    1634: The former king Henry VI disappears in Atlantis, and in the following decades, many men will appear (in England, Atlantis and other places) claiming to be king Henry.

    1637: Dissenter's revolt in New England. Braunschweig-Denmark, supported by France, uses the situation to expand there / take old lands back. Only Markland (Canadian Maritimes and OTL Quebec) can defend itself during this decades, ironically, thanks to its strong garrison. Denmark-Braunschweig gets Haraldsborg back, plus becomes protector of the Commonwealth of New England (the dissenters prefer "the papist German king in Europe to the papist English governor in Markland"). German immigration now also goes to New England, where many new settlements are founded. English loyalists emigrate to Markland.

    1642: The colonies of Denmark-Braunschweig (Martinsburg, Waldstätten, Nieuw Nederlands, Haraldsborg and Anderland) are united under a common administration.

    1645: In the castle of Fontainebleau, the first "Mexican garden" is made. Mexican gardens are influenced by the Aztec way of gardening / planting crops, putting many different colorful plants next to each other, forming geometrical patterns, with colors matching of course.

    Since 1650: The settlements in the colonies of Denmark-Braunschweig and Florence, plus the New English Commonwealth, meanwhile have reached the official border to the French-claimed territory, which is still mostly settled by native Atlanteans.

    Read [post=718404]more about the early Atlantean immigration[/post]!
     
    9.4 Eastern Europe 1600-50
  • Eastern Europe 1600-50

    @Stalker:

    What I really could need would be a list of all the princes in the Russian lands in the year 1237, pre-battle of Kalka. I want to develop the genealogy too, but miss the resources... if you have them at hand, it would be great if you could PM them to me.

    Thanks for your long comment. Here's my answer:

    About the Metropolitan / Patriarch bit: Don't forget Constantinople was conquered by the Muslims earlier than OTL. Kiev replaces Constantinople in importance, a Kievan ruler marries a Byzantine princess, and so on.

    Yes, Novorossiya is Siberia. And I'm aware that this was the name of a part of South Ukraine IOTL.

    Chunkwo: A typo, should read "Chunkvo" ;) Seriously, it comes from Zhongguo = China, transcripted into Russian.

    Potato saving Novgorod? Good idea. Unfortunately, it comes too late ITTL too.

    And here's even more about Russia and Eastern Europe, 1600-50:

    1500: (Population at this time: Vladimir 9 million, Kiev-Chernigov 10.5 million, Novorossiya 0.8 million)

    1550: (Population at this time: Vladimir 12 million, Kiev-Chernigov 13.5 million, Novorossiya 2.5 million)

    (Population at this time: Vladimir 16 million, Kiev-Chernigov 18 million, Novorossiya 5 million)
    Since 1600: Novorossiya undergoes an amazing modernization process, introducing many advances imported from China. Except for Chinese arts and science, the changes also concern the life of the common man, like drinking tea, gambling with cards instead of dice, wearing clothes with a more Chinese style

    1602: Grand Prince Pyotr of Vladimir crowned first Czar of Vladimir-Suzdal.

    1604: Polish king Ludwik feels angered by the new Czar, wants to get rid of the Russian threat, starts a preventive war against Vladimir-Suzdal.

    1609: Sharukan (OTL Charkov), capital of the Kipchaks / Kumans / Polovtser conquered by Kiev-Chernigov.

    1610: Polish army destroyed in the battle of Kostroma.

    1612: Peace of Thurau. Poland has to cede the former princedom of Smolensk to Vladimir.

    1613: Chinese school of Yeniseisk expands so that everything concerning China is teached: Their language, their technologies, their culture, their strategy, their philosophy, everything. Some of this knowledge will filter to Old Russia, together with republican ideas (see below!).

    1617-32: Novorussian War of Independence. When Kiev-Chernigov supports them, Vladimir has to accept that they leave. The republic of Novorossiya is founded. Capital becomes Yeniseisk.
    (Population at this time: Vladimir 20 million, Kiev-Chernigov 22 million, Novorossiya 7.5 million)

    1629: Novorossiya builds the first Russian dry dock at the Pacific coast, with the help of Chinese artisans, paid by money earned with otter pelts sold to China.

    1637: Novorossiyans found first settlement on Ezo (OTL Hokkaido).

    1638: Novorossiya gives itself the first constitution.

    1644: Novorossiya claims Alyeska.

    1647: Novorossiyan republic makes a contract with the Hong empire to fight the people north of the Chinese Wall. The emperor sends them strategical, scientific and technical advisors.

    [post=722246]More about the Novorussian constitution[/post]
     
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    9.5 Central Europe 1600-50
  • Central Europe 1600-50

    One thing first: I took the freedom to move the discussion about the republic of Novorossiya to [thread=41358]a seperate thread[/thread]. We'll move on with the TL, and I don't want things to become too confusing.

    And heeeeere's Central Europe 1600-50:

    ~1600: 100 years after the 20yr War, the German population has completely recovered and even grown further. The German nobles repeatedly raised taxes, which the peasants in Saxony, Thuringia, Franconia and Swabia can't pay anymore, because in these areas, the peasants divide their lands among all kids - so their plots become smaller and smaller. The revolters demand a "jubilee" (when all debts are to be cancelled), no lord except emperor, pope and God, liberation of the serfs, election of the clerics by the people, peace among Christians, restitution of their old rights and lower taxes. The uprisings are mixed with religious movements (which are, sadly, often antisemitic). Except for the Swiss confederation, the uprisings are defeated everywhere. Those who can, try their luck elsewhere - some going even to Atlantis.

    1607: University of Gran (old capital of Hungary) re-founded.

    1612: After the death of king Eduard I of the Netherlands, his younger sons receive small shares too (Namur and Friesland). Namur secedes soon and is subsequently swallowed by France.

    1615: After the lost war against Vladimir-Suzdal, Poland elects mighty king Henry V of England new king.

    1616-19: "Island uprising" in Corsica and Sardinia after trying to reform the administration too fast (after French example). Florence proves unable to overwhelm them again, but gets the promise from France that they won't try to conquer them.

    1627-32: Second Swiss-Savoy war. At the beginning the Swiss are in advantage, but later the rebellion in England-Castille-Portugal (E-C-P) gives France the opportunity to strike against the Swiss. In the peace of Turin, the Swiss have to give the French-speaking area around Geneva, some fortresses in Alsace and at the Rhine (like Kehl) to France, and Savoy joins the Alliance des Alpes, becoming a French satellite.

    1628: Florence, still grumbling, bribes the Portuguese commander of the fortress Ceuta, so he gives them the city, which they keep, to protect their connection to Atlantis.

    1629: The disgraced commander of the Mediterranean fleet, a duke Francisco of Alvarez, goes to Sicily, together with the occupation forces fled from the Marches and Algeria, sets up the (unrecognized) kingdom of Sicily (incl. Tunis, Malta, the Baleares). Threatened by the Seljuks, he makes an alliance with France.

    1630-35: France and Denmark-Braunschweig fight the Netherlands in the Anti-Dutch war. In the peace of Bremen, the Dutch choose to keep their Caribbean colonies, give Denmark-Braunschweig Nieuw Nederlands. France gets a good part of Flanders and all of Hennegau / Hainaut. As the Dutch say, now their Silver Age has also ended.

    1631: Florentines finally part with E-C-P, since the Florentines want to annex the Duchy of the Marches. They make a compromise with France: While the former Papal state is still nominally under the pope, Florence will "administrate" it for him. This is also seen as a compensation for the pope staying in Avignon, while many Italians still wish for his return to Rome. In addition, Florence has to allow France's ally Venice to annex the more valuable North: Bologna, Ferrara and Ravenna.

    1634: Spain and Sicily make a contract: Spain acknowledges the independence of Sicily (not however, the fact that Sicily is a kingdom), get the Baleares back.
    King, duke and elector Ernst V of Denmark-Braunschweig dies without a son, makes his daughter Margarethe new queen.

    1637: Poland joins the HREGN, to be better protected against the Russians, and even gets one electoral vote. Its German neighbors secretly claim that this is for keeping them in check.

    1638: Reforms in the Netherlands after the lost war give more power to the parliament, which is democratically elected by all adult men who own a house above a certain value.

    1639: Sicily conquers Corsica and Sardinia with their fleet. France and Castille are preoccupied and can't interfere.
    Princess Mary of Spain's plan to marry her sister Isabella to "the other Francisco", king of Sicily, fails.

    1640: Queen Kristina of Sweden, Northern Norway and Mecklenburg founds the Baltic alliance with Prussia, Brandenburg-Silesia and Franconia-Pomerania against Polish or Russian threats.

    1642: Government of the "Twin princes" Francois / Ferenc III (also king of Poland) and Charles / Károly IV begins. Introducing enlightened absolutism, they practice religious tolerance, thus stabilizing the until then very shaky Hungary (having Catholics in Hungary and Slovakia, Orthodox in Transsylvania and Bohemian brothers in, well, Bohemia, made governing the state extremely difficult). Even the Jews and Muslims in the country profit from the new tolerance.

    Read [post=724945]more about the Twin princes[/post]!


    And in addition: The kings of central Europe 1500-1650!

    Holy Roman kings and emperors:
    Karl V of Luxemburg 1495-1511
    Franz I of Berry/France 1511-35 (emperor since 1514)
    Karl VI of France (*1505) 1535-56 (emperor since 1537)
    Karl VII 1556-83 (emperor since 1559)
    Franz II 1583-86 (emperor in 1586)
    Alexander of Scotland 1586-88
    Eduard of Geldern 1588-1612 (emperor-elect)
    Waldemar "Cicero" of Brandenburg 1612-48 (emperor-elect)
    Karl VIII of Bourbon/Hungary 1648- (emperor since 1652)

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    Kings of the Netherlands:
    Wassenberg dynasty of Geldern
    Reinald III the Old (*1469) 1492-1559
    Otto (*1510) 1559-66
    Reinald IV (*1540) 1566-68 (+1625)
    Eduard I (*1547) 1568-1612
    Eduard II (*1574) 1612-

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    Kings of Poland:
    Wladyslaw VIII (*1454) 1463-1505
    Boleslaw VII (*1486) 1505-42
    Boleslaw VIII (*1514) 1542-84

    Elected monarchs:
    Alexander / Aleksander of Scotland 1584-88
    Louis / Ludwik of Hungary/Bourbon 1588-1615
    Henry / Henryk V of England 1615-20
    Erich / Eryk of Sweden 1620-36
    Francois / Franciszek of Hungary/Bourbon 1636-42

    Stanislaw of Opaliński 1642-

    --

    Kings of Hungary:
    Wittelsbach dynasty:
    Ludwig / Lajos V (*1479) 1492-1502

    Seljuk occupation, end of state

    Bourbon dynasty:
    Francois / Ferenc I (*1531) 1574-1615
    Francois / Ferenc "the impotent" II (*1559) 1615-42
    Francois / Ferenc III (*1592) 1642-47
    Charles / Károly IV (*1592) 1647-

    --

    Kings of Bohemia:
    Elective kings:
    Georgy II 1500-06
    Jan III the Old / the Good (*1465) 1506-1555
    Georgy III (*1506) 1555-61
    Jan IV (*1535) 1561-87 (+1616)

    Conquest by Hungary, end of state

    --

    Dukes of Carinthia, Styria, Austria and Silesia:
    Heinrich III (*1422) 1459-1502
    Ottokar III (*1457) 1502-11

    End of state, division between Württemberg and Brandenburg

    --

    Lords of Florence:

    Medici family / dynasty:
    Dukes of Florence:
    Giovanni I (*1455) 1479-1501
    Piero II (*1483) 1501-23
    Lorenzo I (*1490) 1523-65
    Lorenzo II (*1545) 1565-75

    Grand Dukes of Florence:
    Lorenzo II 1575-90
    Giovanni II (*1551) 1590-1630
    Piero III (*1588) 1630-38
    Giovanni III (*1624) 1638-

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    Kings of Sicily:
    Álvarez dynasty
    Francisco I (*1569) 1628-41
    José (*1606) 1641-
     
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    9.6 East Asia 1600-50
  • East Asia 1600-50

    Retcons first:
    1422 (3119, Yang Water Tiger): Chiang Mai (Northern Thailand) pays tribute to Hong.

    1458: Thai kingdom Chiang Mai annexes Nan (later than OTL).

    1566 (3263, Yang Fire Tiger): Earthquake of Shaanxi, killing almost a million people.

    1586: Volcano Kelut on Java erupts, killing ~10,000 people.


    East Asia 1600-50:

    Since ~1600: Koreans start piracy against the Japanese traders.
    In the SE Asian states, who are kept in peace with each other by Hong troops and diplomacy, old tensions start to flare up occasionally.

    1604 (3301, Yang Wood Dragon): Vijayanagar allies with China against Arabs, Persians, Deccan sultanate.

    1611 (3308, Yin Metal Pig): One high official of the Hong killed on Sulu. The emperor orders a harsh punishment of the rebels. This leads to prolonged anti-Chinese uprising among the Muslims there.

    1612: Traders from the sultanate of Brunei discover OTL Australia, aren't interested either.

    1617 (3314, Yin Fire Snake): Novorossiya pays a symbolic tribute to the Hong emperor, is acknowledged by China.

    1620s: Uprisings of the native Atayal and Bunun tribes on Tungning (Taiwan) against Hong rule.

    1620: First French ship (coming from Suez) arrives in India. The Seljuk presence in the Indian Ocean makes things too dangerous for trade yet.

    1626: Scandinavians from Australia (OTL South Africa!) reach India.

    1630s: Swedes visit and learn about the various kingdoms in SE Asia and the Indies.

    1631 (3328, Yin Metal Sheep): Thai king protests against the Hong trying to influence internal politics in Ayutthaya.

    1638 (3335, Yang Earth Tiger): Pegu (Southern Burma) ruler starts an intrigue at the Hong court against Ayutthaya, gaining the emperor's favor. Pegu annexes a border province some years later.

    1642 (3339, Yang Water Horse): Japanese clash with Russians on Ezo (Hokkaido).
    Great flood in Kaifeng, Henan Province results in more than 300,000 casualties.

    1648: French traders arrive in Vijayanagar, find out to their surprise that the Swedes were there before them.

    1649 (3346, Yin Earth Ox): Swedish traders arrive in Canton.

    Read about [post=735427]the palace of the Hong emperor[/post]!
     
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    9.7 Rest of the world, 17th century
  • Rest of the world, 17th century

    This time with lots of retcons (OK, most of the stuff is same as OTL) for Africa.

    (OOC: We've probably never had that much about Africa in a TL without either Draka or Lettow-Vorbeck, esp. not about pre-European Africa. Michael Edward Johnson should be proud about me ;))

    ~1200: Jolof (in OTL Senegal) settled as small kingdom.

    Early 13th century: Ilé-Ife (OTL SW Nigeria) reaches its peak.

    14th century: Islam introduced in Darfur by the Tunjur.
    Bantu-speaking Ovambo and Herero migrate from the north to OTL Namibia.
    Mogadishu comes to prominence as a trade city.

    ~1350: Jolof begins dominating neighboring states such as Waalo. Start of the reign of N'Dyadya N'Dyaye.

    1390: Kingdom of Kaffa founded in W Ethiopia.

    End of 14th century: Ilé-If? (OTL SW Nigeria) declines, to be replaced by Oyo and Benin.

    ~1400: King Oranyan rules in Oyo.

    1480s: Kingdom of Baguirmi (OTL Chad) founded.

    15th century: Mossi state founded in OTL Burkina Faso.
    Nupe immigrate from the Nile (it's claimed) to OTL Central Nigeria.
    Kano (Nigeria) has erected the first Central Mosque.

    Late 15th century: Kingdom of Baguirmi adopts Islam. Short time after, it's conquered by Kanem-Bornu.
    Islam made state religion in sultanate of Sinnar/Sennar (earlier than OTL).
    Mandara Kingdom founded (Tradition states: by a female ruler named Soukda and a non-Mandarawa hunter named Gaya) in OTL Cameroon.
    Maravi Empire founded by the Amaravi people (in OTL Malawi).

    ~1500: Arab traders bring Islam to the Comoros.
    At this time or earlier, Luba people start to form a state (in OTL South Congo).
    Jolof at height of power.

    16th century: Ouaddai Kingdom (west of Darfur) emerges.
    Kingdom of Kaffa (near Ethiopia) makes Christianity state religion.
    Burundian state emerges.
    First records of the kingdom of Ndongo (OTL N Angola).

    ~1585: Luba kingdom starts to expand, securing control of copper mines.

    Late 16th century: Yoruba state of Oyo becomes mightier, thanks to its cavalry.
    Islam made state religion in Darfur (earlier than OTL).


    Rest of the world, 17th century:

    Since 1600: Kingdom of Kongo starts to introduce western ideas.

    1605: King Henry V of E-C-P wants to find the way to China and India by going west. He has four ships starting from the Atlantean west coast. However, the journeys are struck by bad luck: The first one is hit by a hurricane and starves somewhere in the North Pacific, the second one lands on the island of Tahiti, where the crew mutinies and simply stays there, the third one lands on OTL New Guinea, where they're killed and eaten by the local cannibals, and the fourth one crosses the Pacific and lands in Japan, where they are defeated by Japanese armed with guns and imprisoned (possibly the Japanese-Russian competition was a reason for that - who in Japan can tell Europeans apart?).

    1607: Songhay, having enforced its army with Moroccan gunpowder weapons, attacks the Fula people in Senegal. Their typical cavalry is added to the Songhay army.

    1612: French merchants from Suez arrive in Ethiopia, start diplomatic connections. France takes Djibouti to secure the way to India.

    1615/16: "Australian War": Sweden defeats the Dutch, takes back the mostly Scandinavian-settled colony Australia (South Africa).

    Since ~1620: Portuguese slave traders in Guinea are the first time scolded by the Songhay officials for selling them sub-quality firearms. Prices for African slaves and other wares from Songhay rise.

    1626: Jolof conquered by Songhay, which now extends to the coast.

    1634-54: Char Bouba war - with French support, Berbers in OTL Mauretania defeat the Arabs.

    1630s: French traders are allowed to trade in the Portuguese colonies in Africa, after Portugal becomes independent with French help. France also helps Portugal to oust some nations in West Africa which they don't like (England, Spain, Netherlands).

    1644: Swedes discover the west coast of Australia, but aren't interested in that continent either.

    Since 1650: Persian sultanate takes control of East African coast.

    1651-58: Kanem-Bornu conquered by Songhay empire.

    1670s: Songhay subjugates the Mossi. Now they reign all of West Africa between Sahara desert and the jungle (which is unsuited for cavalry).

    1690s: Portuguese "ship-states" at the coast of Guinea emerge. Since the area is still unsuited for large-scale European settlement, they simply stay on the ships, living in symbiosis with the local kingdoms. Since this time, the Mulatto population of West Africa starts to rise significantly.

    17th century: Oyo kingdom becomes the mightiest Yoruba state.

    Edit: Here's a map. Borders don't make much sense, so I just showed the Songhay Empire (green is its OTL maximum expansion, yellow+green as it is ITTL 1700) and marked other countries by letters.

    Codes for the other countries:

    J in Senegal = Jolof
    M in Burkina Faso = Mossi
    O in Nigeria = Oyo
    I in Nigeria = Ilé-Ifè
    N in Nigeria = Nupe
    K in Niger = Kanem-Bornu
    B in Chad = Baguirmi
    W in Chad = Wadai / Ouaddai
    M in Cameroon = Mandara
    D in Sudan = Darfur (that was easy)
    S in Sudan = Seddar / Siddar
    K in Ethiopia = Kaffa
    K in Congo = Kongo (what else)
    N in Angola = Ndongo
    L in S Congo = Lunda
    L in E Congo = Luba
    M in Malawi = Maravi

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    10. World, 1650-75
  • World, 1650-75

    Yes, surprise: The old TL structure (continent by continent, 50 years each) is no more, instead I'll post events happening all over the world now - since the continents are coming closer together, there's no sense in seperating them.

    @Stalker: You're right - I replaced him by an Opaliński.

    The World, 1650-75:

    East Asia:
    Since ~1650: Following the French, Swedish and Russian engagement in China and India, thanks to the cultural influences many new ideas are born in Europe.

    1651: Thai break away from Chinese influence. Hong emperor sends troops down, but now is forced to fight an unwinnable guerilla war.

    1661: Hong troops are retreated from Thailand, for the high costs.

    1662: After an attack on a Chinese treasure fleet in Indonesia (by Johor pirates), China starts to avoid this area.

    1664: French traders reach Canton.

    1668: Khmer ruler demands that his country gets overlordship over Champa (S Vietnam) and Thai lands.

    2nd half of 17th century: Hong empire starts to relocate troops south, since the Russians take more and more care of their northern border. However, many rulers in SE Asia wish for more independence - and are even schooled how to do now, thanks to the spreading of Chinese culture and strategy.


    Russian lands:
    1651: Novorossiya starts to attack the Mongols, conquers Karakorum in 1655.

    1657: South Russians (Kiev-Chernigov) found the Dvoryan republic of Kumania (between Dnepr and southern Bug - OTL West Ukraine).

    1659: Novorossiya makes an expedition to SE Asia, seeing the lands they learned already about from the Chinese for the first time.

    1663-66: Novorossiya defeats and annexes the Tunguses.

    1668: Novorussian expedition reaches India.

    1672: A Novorussian ship meets the French at Djibouti; French forbid them to sail into the Red Sea and up to Egypt.


    Atlantis:
    1652: Novorussians take Vancouver island.

    1652-56: After having accepted the loyalty of Markland, king Humphrey plans to regain England's old colony in North Atlantis. However, the states of Denmark-Braunschweig and Florence ally against him in the "Atlantean Coalition" and surprisingly defeat the English fleet. New England stays a Danish-German protectorate.

    1655: Border between Spanish colonies and Inca empire in OTL Columbia ruled by official treaty.

    1659: England founds Stafford City at the site of OTL Recife, (re-)starting the colonization of Braseal and Argentine.

    1662: English (re)found the city of Fort Humphrey at the site of OTL Buenos Aires.

    1669: At OTL San Francisco Bay, Novorussians clash with Spain.

    1670s: Italian settlers trying to cross the Applachians are defeated by Atlanteans allied with the French.

    1671: Protectorate of New England split up into three countries: One containing the Boston-RI area, one with upper Massachusetts, Connecticut and the south of NH and VT, and one with most of VT and NH, south of Maine.

    1675: City of Paradise founded by English at the site of OTL Rio de Janeiro.


    Muslim World:
    1652-57: Second Russian-Kuman War. Now the Seljuk tributaries around the Black Sea are reduced to Crimea, Tauria (area just above Crimea) and Georgia.

    1660-67: Florence and Venice wage war against Seljuks, despite that France doesn't fight with them, but they expect that the Seljuks are beaten after their defeat by Russia. They're defeated, lose their conquests from the peace of Györ. The humbled Florence even needed Sicilian help to evacuate their troops from Greece.

    1662: Seljuks and Choresm make an alliance, directed against Shiite Persia, Russians.

    1668-74: Third French-Seljuk War. South Russians join them. In the peace of Belgrad, Venice receives the Aegaean islands, Hungary gets Serbia and Bosnia, South Russia Bessarabia and Tauria. France takes Palestine with Jerusalem, which angers many Muslims.

    1670-73: Border war between Persia and Vijayanagar, quite indecisive. Since Hong China can't help much, both states start to look for an alliance with European powers.


    Central Europe:
    1653: Reichsdeputationshauptbeschluss: All the free cities and other smaller territories of the HREGN are mediatized (given to bigger states). France itself receives some lands too - the Grafschaften (counties) of Mömpelgard, Salm, Saarwerden-Saarbrücken, Veldenz and Sponheim, now extending into German-speaking territory.
    The north-eastern German states start to grumble, especially since France doesn't care to help them against the Russian threat (and also, because there are barely any lands left in NE Germany to be annexed).

    1660-64: Luxembourgian War of Succession: France and its allies Venice, Bavaria, Switzerland and Nassau make claims for Luxembourgian territories, although they're highly doubtful.
    But with the absolutist Francois IV as French king, things like this don't matter. Although Luxembourg has (most of) the HRE on its side, they're defeated.
    Vorarlberg becomes a Swiss canton, South Tyrol goes to Venice, the rest of Tyrol to Bavaria; Nassau gets a part of Luxembourg proper, the rest (including Lorraine) becomes French.
    The rightful heir, Charles X (VII in Tyrol) only receives Brabant-Limburg. "The old sting in France's side", as Francois IV says, is now removed.

    1667: Florence makes a dynastical marriage with Sicily, between king Francisco II and the only surviving child of grand duke Lorenzo III, Condolcessa. (Even besides the political consequences, the marriage is considered a scandal - there are rumors that Condolcessa was the mistress of both her father and her uncle, late grand duke Giovanni III.)

    ~1670: Style of Victorianisme at its height.


    Western Europe:
    1655: Wales becomes an integral part of England. Welsh language is suppressed. (This happens about one century later than OTL, since the English kings were preoccupied with the rest of their empire. Now, under the Staffords, they care more about the islands.)

    1662: England reconquers the Pale in Ireland.

    1665: Queen Maria of Spain appoints her younger, but more competent son Héctor successor, sends her older son Francisco as governor to Morocco.

    1669: Queen Kristina of Sweden marries Eduard of Wassenberg of the royal Dutch family. This leads to a Dutch-Swedish alliance.

    Stories:
    [post=737954]An essay about king Francois IV and his reign[/post]
    [post=740478]Excerpt from one chapter of "South-Eastern Asia - the chessboard of the powers"[/post]
    [post=891504]The transformation of Russia's economy[/post]
     
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    11. World 1675-1700
  • World 1675-1700

    Retcon first:
    1651: Thai break away from Chinese influence. Hong emperor sends troops down, but now is forced to fight an unwinnable guerilla war.

    1661: Hong troops are retreated from Thailand, for the high costs.

    1662: After an attack on a Chinese treasure fleet in Indonesia (by Johor pirates), China starts to avoid this area.

    1668: Khmer ruler demands that his country gets overlordship over Champa (S Vietnam) and Thai lands.

    1670-73: Border war between Persia and Vijayanagar, quite indecisive. Since Hong China can't help much, both states start to look for an alliance with European powers.


    Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride again - here's the World 1675-1700:

    Western Europe:
    1676: In France, the first world map that includes (more or less) exact coastlines for all Old World continents (except the polar areas) and Atlantis is published.

    1682-94: Anti-French War. Spain, England, Sicily, Netherlands, the Baltic League (Sweden, several German states) unite against France and its allies Hungary, Poland, Württemberg-Österreich, Nassau, Savoy, Venice, Denmark-Braunschweig, Scotland and Portugal. Many areas in northern, western and southern Germany devastated, as are in Poland.

    1682, October: Sea battle of Bornholm. Sweden defeats the Danish Baltic fleet, can link up with their allies in the South.

    1683, June: Battle of Groningen. A thrust from Nassau is defeated by the Dutch and English.

    1683, October: Battle of Valladolid. Portuguese have to retreat.

    1684, June: Battle of Ypres. Dutch-Brabant army defeated, has to retreat behind the Rhine. King Francois declares all their lands south of the Rhine to be part of France.

    1684, July: Battle of the Lowlands. Glasgow and Edinburgh besieged by English.

    1684, September: Battle of Bergen. Sweden links up with England.

    1685, May: Battle of Zaragoza. Spanish cross the Ebro, occupy most of Catalonia, although the French still hold Navarre and Barcelona.

    1686, May: Battle of Orkney. Danish and Scottish fleet defeated, Scottish islands occupied.

    1690, April: Sea battle of Ibiza. United Spanish-Italian fleet defeats French-Savoy fleet.

    1692, April: Danish army defeated at Güstrow, Mecklenburg, can't help the French.

    1692, August: Battle of Lublin. The king's troops defeated by the rebels.

    1692, September: Battle of Pinne. Baltic League defeats Polish loyalists and Hungarians.

    1693: Earthquake of Sicily. The old royal palace is also destroyed, helping king Francisco / Francesco I to move the court to Rome.
    King Humphrey II of England dies surprisingly. The new English king is only ten years old. In France, advisors tell the new king Francois VI that he should continue the war, since the tide could turn again. (It won't.)

    1693, March: Battle of Roussilon. Spanish troops cross the Pyrenees, invade French territory.

    1694, January: Battle of Coimbra. English-Spanish troops occupy the city, panic strikes Portugal.

    1695: After the death of the pope in Avignon, a new council is started in Cork to reconciliate the church.


    Central Europe:
    1676-79: With French help, Nassau defeats the Gottesfreistaat Münster, annexes it. Many Münsteraner flee to Atlantis. Denmark-Braunschweig is angered somewhat because France promised them earlier to get all of Münster.

    1680: Heinrich IV of Brandenburg dies. His son is unable to govern, which he is aware of. So he decides that Brandenburg-Silesia shall be governed by a collegium of the other members of the Baltic League (Kristina of Sweden, Johann IX of Hohenzollern and Balthasar II of Prussia) until there's a capable heir to take over.

    1681: Johann IX of Hohenzollern (of Franconia-Pomerania) dies without heirs too. New French king Francois V declares the collegial government over Brandenburg-Silesia and Franconia-Pomerania for illegal.
    France annexes the Margravate of Baden, against all the rules, laws and traditions. Even France's allies in Germany aren't willing to take these excesses anymore.

    1682: The (several times postponed) election for HREmperor. (Several candidates, like crown prince Humphrey of England and king Humphrey I himself, died at an inconvenient time, and the anti-French groups had to look for new candidates, since queen Kristina of Sweden isn't electable.) Finally, after a turbulent election, king Francisco of Sicily is elected emperor Franz IV by Brandenburg, Prussia, Saxony, Jülich-Berg, the Netherlands, Palatinate (until then controlled by France), while Francois V ("the other Franz", as the Germans call him) is elected by Poland, Württemberg-Austria, Nassau, Braunschweig and Luxembourg. Francois V doesn't want to accept the result of the election, which was admittedly quite unclear (are the votes of French-occupied Luxembourg and collegially governed Brandenburg valid?).

    1683, February: Battle of Ansbach. Franconian army has to retreat.

    1683, April: Battle of Thorn. Baltic League battles Poles for a draw.

    1684: France allies with the relatives of the duke of Brandenburg to claim the throne of said country against Sweden and Prussia.

    1685: Elector Magnus of Saxony-Wittenberg-Lauenburg dies. Theoretically, his lands would go to his Ascanian relatives in Brandenburg, but as was said, the status of Brandenburg is difficult - besides, the Ascanians would get two electoral votes with that. This causes some clashes between the anti-French German states.

    1685, April: Battle of Jülich. French army defeated, has to retreat from Northern Rhineland.

    1685, September: Battle of Coburg. German troops drive the French-Württembergian armies back.

    1686: Uprisings in Württemberg against unpopular duke Karl II begin. The brothers Eberhard and Ludwig (also of his family, the Eberhardiner!) leave his state and go to Hesse, to fight against him and France.

    1686, February: Battle of Schlitz. France's allies in Germany (Nassau, Braunschweig, Württemberg) prevented from unificating; link up of Baltic League with Dutch, Brabant.

    1687, Fall: Bohemian army of Hungary plunders margravate of Meissen.

    1688: Sicily and Florence unite, form the Italian kingdom. France doesn't want to acknowledge it as a kingdom, since Sicily wasn't acknowledged either and Florence is still a grand duchy. Florence/Italy enters the war on the coalition's side, invades Venice, Savoy.

    1688, October: Battle of Mantua. Armies of Savoy and Venice defeated, driven back.

    1689, September: Battle of Göppingen. Troops of duke Karl II defeated, Württemberg occupied. Brothers Eberhard and Ludwig declared rightful rulers.

    1690: Italian cardinals elect a new pope in Rome, declare him to be the legitimate pope. France's other opponents also accept him as pope.
    Baltic league installs a Polish anti-king, which throws Poland into Civil War and takes a lot of pressure from the Baltic League.

    1690, August: Battle of Oppeln. Hungarian army marches into Silesia.

    1691, July: Battle of Magdeburg. French-Braunschweiger army crosses the Elbe. This threat leads to the Baltic league rallying against the invaders, finally turning the table.

    1693, July: Battle of Brünn. Last Austrian army defeated. Karl II of Württemberg-Austria goes to exile in Hungary.

    1694, March: Siege of Bratislava broken - a last victory for the Bourbons.

    1694: Peace of Amsterdam. France has to give up its allies: Denmark's Norway becomes Swedish (although Braunschweig may keep Schleswig and Holstein), Portugal Spanish, Scotland English. In Atlantis, Caroline and eastern New France (OTL Hispaniola) become Spanish, Quebec (OTL Ontario) English, Louisiana north of the Arkansas is divided between Italy (the South) and Denmark-Braunschweig (the North). Prince-Haralds-Land (OTL Newfoundland) is ceded by the latter to England. The Pyrenees become the new French-Spanish border. Luxembourg-Lorraine is given back to Charles XI of Brabant-Limburg. Baden is restored. Switzerland receives the lands lost too, but has to promise neutrality. Milan, Ravenna and Genoa become Italian, to drive a wedge between Savoy and Venice. Flanders, Hennegau / Hainaut become Dutch again. Karl II of Württemberg-Austria deposed, Eberhard X (his father is counted as Eberhard IX, although he never officially reigned) becomes new grand duke, together with his brother Ludwig V. The Alliance des Alpes is dissolved. The Mexican Empire becomes a Spanish colony.

    1694: The situation in Franconia-Pomerania is solved when a passable heir (Friedrich von Hohenzollern, who becomes Friedrich IX) is found in Atlantis. Franconia-Pomerania becomes a new electorate instead of Saxony-Wittenberg-Lauenburg, which is united with Brandenburg-Silesia.


    Atlantis:
    1677-82: Inca defeat Aymara, reconquer the former South of their empire, stretching to Chile / Argentine now.

    1687, November: Battle of Kingsburgh (OTL Montreal). French-Atlantean troops have to cease the siege and retreat to French Quebec (OTL Ontario).

    1688, March: Battle of Metztitlan. Spaniards thrust deep into Mexico, link up with anti-government groups.

    1689, November: Battle of Martinsburg. Danish fleet destroyed by English and Italians.

    1692: "The wild ride": Friedrich von Hohenzollern, a German in the service of the governor of Italia Nuova, fights his way through the French colony of Caroline with his cavalry troops, finally linking up with the Spaniards in Florida.

    1694: Mexico becomes a Spanish colony; the last Tenochca ruler Acamapichtli II has to go to exile in France.


    East Asia:
    1680s: Choresmians make incursions in Chinese territory.

    1689-94: Javan War between Majapahit, Johor and several smaller kingdoms. The pax Sinica in this part of the world is over.

    1695: Japanese claim Ezo / Hokkaido back. Novorossiya protests. The Hong emperor (theoretically still overlord of both countries) rules that the Russians rightfully own Ezo, which the Japanese won't tolerate.

    1699: Japanese pirates attack Novorussian ships.


    Russian lands:
    1678-84: Novorossiya conquers the Jurchen / Nuzhen.

    1685-87: Novorossiya sends the first expedition coming from the East to Europe, going around Africa to reach old Novgorod.

    1686: Vladimir-Suzdal enters the anti-French War, although fighting only against Poland.

    1690: In the peace of Minsk, Poland cedes the former Prussian province Wolhynien (the old Russian princedoms Turov-Pinsk and parts of Halicz-Volhyn) to Vladimir, which leaves the war.

    1691/92: After an uprising of the until then pro-Hong Merkites, they're conquered by Novorossiya too.

    1693: Vladimir-Suzdal has to cede the northern lands between Ural and Kama to Novorossiya, as repayment of their war debts, being unable to pay them back.

    1700: (Population of Russia at this time: Vladimir 27 million, Kiev-Chernigov 32 million, Novorossiya 18 million - including 4 million non-Russians)


    Muslim World:
    1683: Seljuks enter the anti-French War, for the first time as allies of Christian powers.

    1687, August: Siege of Jerusalem ends with the French capitulation.

    1694: Seljuks get Sinai, Palestine and Aden back from France.

    1700: France makes an alliance with Persia, against Seljuks and Vijayanagar.


    Stories:
    [post=746678]About Frederick of Atlantis[/post]
    [post=747424]"Christnacht" - a story about a story[/post]
    [post=750203]A small ad for a game[/post]

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    Here's the map of Europe before / after the peace of Amsterdam. Also note areas with another borderline (east of Poland, S Italy): They have changed hands.

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    12. Science / Summary / Map of the 17th century
  • Thanks to all. As said in the first post, I'll continue this TL until the year 2000 or today's tech level is reached, whichever comes first.

    Yes, the Nahuatl language in Mexico will survive, or is at least stronger than OTL. No, they don't sacrifice people anymore - they were catholized (by France) since the Great Occidental War in the 16th century.

    Kumania is the southern Ukraine between Dnepr and southern Bug. Dvoryans... I didn't find a better word yet, I had believed for unknown reasons that this meant "warrior", and they are the Cossacks of TTL. So that's a Dvoryan republic - a Cossack state. BTW, Nobles republics aren't that uncommon - Poland-Lithuania was very much like that, and ITTL Aragon and Norway became nobles' republics (or elective monarchies, if you prefer that term) as well.

    --

    And now...

    Some retcon about religion in Europe:

    At the council of Ghent (1551-56) the Occidental church was reunited with the rest of the Catholic church (doctrines were somewhat changed), so different religious opinions were restricted to the "outlaw states" of Bohemia and Münster, which were conquered anyway in 1587 and 1679 respectively. The princes had gained quite some power - church lands were confiscated in all countries, and in many ones (France, E-C-P, Hungary, several German states) the princes now even had the power to decide about positions in the church, as long as they didn't touch the Papal doctrine. However, when Francois IV misused the pope in Avignon too openly as his tool and E-C-P fell apart, many European states took complete control over the church, effectively splintering it into many national churches (as in Sweden, England, Spain and the Netherlands, where the power over church didn't even go to the king, but the parliament). During this time, many countries introduced special national holidays for the first time (St George's Day in England, f.e.). When France lost the anti-French War, they couldn't bring the national churches back into the fold either. In 1698, it was finally agreed that a new council would be held on neutral ground - in Cork in Ireland, the only Catholic European country that had stayed out of the anti-French War. (In 1700, the council still didn't finish its work.)

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    History of science in the 17th century:

    General state of the art:

    Western Europe: The first modern canal is built between Spree and Oder rivers in Brandenburg-Silesia. Islamic knowledge (mostly physics, esp. optics) spreads through all countries. Better clocks, first adding and multiplicating machines built. Alchimists in Italy discover first new element, phosphor.

    Russian lands: Much of Chinese knowledge introduced and later even improved (statistics, galvanization). Materials categorized into conductors and non-conductors.

    Islamic World: The introduction of the printing press leads to faster progress and more widespread knowledge. An encyclopedia is printed and slowly distributed. In Persia, bacteria are studied under the microscope for the first time. Aberration of light discovered. Astronomians also discover Halley's comet and a new planet, Uranus.

    India: Kerala school stays undisturbed by Islamic conquests, makes even more mathematical discoveries at the level of OTL 1900.

    China: They learn about the Europeans, but aren't really interested in what they have to offer. Science stagnates.

    1604: Ophiuchus Supernova observed.

    Read [post=963447]about the medicinal achievements of the University of Zanzibar[/post]!

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    Summary of the 17th century:

    Atlantis: French Louisiana mostly divided between Germans, Italians and English. Mexica subjugated by Spaniards. Braseal and Argentine colonized by England. RUssians take Alyeska and the West Coast down to San Francisco Bay.

    Europe: Triple monarchy of England-Castille-Portugal falls apart. Englands suffers a Civil War that brings Stafford dynasty to power. During this power vacuum, France greatly expands its influence over most of Europe under absolutist Francois IV. In the great anti-French War their empire breaks together, and Scotland and Portugal lose independence. Hungary practices religious tolerance.

    Russian lands: Siberia becomes the independent republic of Novorossiya, as good relations with China. Kipchak lands north of the Black Sea conquered by Russians, formed into the new "Dvoryan republics". Science and humanities blossom in Novorossiya.

    Muslim world: Seljuks still lose against Europeans, but achieve some victories in the second half of the century. Persia conquers Oman, Delhi.

    East Asia: Independent nations between China and Russians conquered by the latter. Hong China loses power and influence, at the expense of the "rim people" (Japanese, Koreans, SE Asians). Western Europeans enter the scene.

    Rest of the world: Songhay empire in Africa becomes stronger. French visit and ally with Ethiopia. Many Portuguese go to the "ship settlements" in the sea of Guinea. Swedes reconquer Australafrica.

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    Edit: Map of the world - before and after the Anti-French War. (Note I didn't bother to draw all the borders in Europe. For that, we have the detailed map.)

    Colors:
    Red - Britain
    Pink - France
    Yellow - Spain
    Brown - Denmark-Braunschweig
    Black - Sweden
    Blue - Italy
    Orange - Inca (not Dutch ;))
    Purple - Novorossiya
    Greens - Islamic states (Seljuks, Persia, Choresm, Melaka)

    Note in W Africa: The upper country is Songhay, below it is the Portuguese-influenced Greater Guinea.

    India isn't a French colony, but independent Vijayanagar and some smaller states.

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    13. The World 1700-25
  • @Admiral Matt: Algiers has quite some French meanwhile, and some other Europeans (10-15% maybe). Tunis may even have a bit more, since many Italians fled from Seljuk-help South Italy.
    There settled relatively few English and Portuguese in North Africa, because of the internal division of colonies in E-C-P: Guinea for the Portuguese, North Atlantis and Jamaica for English, rest for the Castillians.
    Morocco is heavily Europeanized meanwhile... 40% at least, they have unchallenged control over the cities and the good land. In the many mountains, the natives still have strongholds. They constantly risk to be enslaved by the Spaniards.
    @Tocomocho: The Shetlands are a mistake. I'll correct it.
    Ceuta was taken by Florence in 1628 by bribing the commander. Before, it had been Portuguese since 1381.

    Retcon:
    1633-50: Welsh uprisings during War of the Fords. Some are expelled to Atlantis, settle around Boston.

    1655: Wales becomes an integral part of England. Welsh language is suppressed. (This happens about one century later than OTL, since the English kings were preoccupied with the rest of their empire. Now, under the Staffords, they care more about the islands.)

    1662: English (re)found the city of Fort Humphrey at the site of OTL Buenos Aires.

    1688, October: Battle of Mantua. Armies of Savoy and Venice defeated, driven back.

    1693: Vladimir-Suzdal has to cede the northern lands between Ural and Kama to Novorossiya, as repayment of their war debts, being unable to pay them back.


    And here's, The World 1700-25:

    Atlantis:
    Since ~1700: Poor Italians (mostly from the South), often with differing religious ideas, settle west of the Appalachians, in the Tenesi (yes, OTL Tennessee) area.
    Many French settlers leave upper Mississippi area, go to Louisiana.

    1700: Denmark-Braunschweig founds the ninth land, at the shores of Lake Erie.

    1706: King Piero / Pedro of Italy has a third son, whom he appoints "prince of Atlantis" (the other two being prince of Africa [OK, Tunis + Tripolis] and prince of the Islands [Corsica, Sardinia, Sicily, Malta] respectively).

    1706-14: War against the Five Nations (actually seven nations meanwhile, the historical five ones and the Monacan and Connestoga in addition, being displaced earlier by European settlers). Historians agree that this war helped the mixed German-Danish-English-Dutch-Polish population very much to become a community. The war proves to be very hard, since the French left the Five Nations equipped with guns and boats.

    1707-10: Uprising of Aymara defeated by Inca, Aymara displaced to the Southern tip of Atlantis.

    1709: Last free Maya cities conquered by Spaniards.

    1718/19: Inca lose border war against Spain, have to pay a big tribute in silver (which is more important for the Spaniards than gaining land).

    1723: Inca make first trade agreement with Russians.


    Muslim World:
    Early 18th century: Songhay introduces the Printing Press, getting help from Seljuk Egypt.

    1701-04: After a plague hits Southern Russia, the Seljuks use the opportunity to strike against the Dvoryan / Dosor republics. Although Kiev-Chernigov supports them, the Seljuks (who have the better medical science) defeat them several times, re-establishing their rule in many cities at the Black Sea.

    1708-15: Italian-Russian-Seljuk War. Italy finally takes Seljuk Italy back. In the following years, they start resettling the wasted and depopulated (by war, Seljuk slave-catchers and emigration to Atlantis and Tunis) parts of Southern Italy. The city of Tripolis also becomes Italian. South Russia finally kicks the Seljuks out from OTL Ukraine, this time including Crimea.

    1717-23: France uses the opportunity, allies with Persia and strikes against the Seljuks. The French again occupy the Sinai and Aden, while Persia takes the prestigious Holy Cities of Islam. This time, Jerusalem is left alone.

    1720s: Rebellion of the Georgians and Armenians against Seljuk rule begins.


    Rest of the world:
    Early 18th century: Britain and Sweden try to lure the Congo kingdoms on their side, away from France and Portuguese-influenced Guinea.

    1704: English ships go west from Cape Hoorn, (re-)discover Australia and New Zealand, which are called Antipodia and New Albion respectively. England takes claim of these lands, but for quite some while they stay in the shadow of the English colonies in North and South Atlantis.

    1710s: Uprisings in Portugal suppressed. Many Portuguese flee to Guinea.

    1716-18: Britain makes further discoveries in the Pacific Ocean, claims many islands. As a surprise comes the rediscovery of the island Tahiti, finding a Christian, mostly English-descended population who believe that the Plantagenet dynasty still reigns in England-Castille-Portugal.

    1725: France and Persia make an agreement about Ethiopia. Both nations are allowed to trade with the land, it's not forced to switch religion in any way, but has to pay tribute to both of them.


    Russian lands:
    Early 18th century: At the university of Yenisseisk, the Russians make several progresses concerning electricity (knowing galvanization and the voltaic pile from China), even a primitive telegraph (not ready for use, though).

    1702: Threatened by the Seljuks, the Dvoryan republics make a closer alliance with Kiev-Chernigov. The Czar founds a Duma, representing old and new Russian lands.

    1707: Paper-based currency introduced in Novorossiya for the first time.

    1708-17: Anti-Czarist uprisings in the area of Novgorod.

    1715: Novorossiya enters the fights between Novgorodians and the Czar. After defeating the Czarist troops in the battle at the Tobol, the whole North of Vladimir-Suzdal is ceded to Novorossiya. Old Novgorod becomes a honorable Old City of Novorossiya.

    1720s: Novorossiya has to fight down an uprising of the Jurchen / Nuzhen, finally successful.


    Western Europe:
    1703: Council of Cork ends again with a compromise. The Catholic church stays formally united, but the pope has become a mere figurehead. The kings and princes are even allowed to change the doctrine in their lands, "as long as those changes are justified by the special character of their countries" and don't contradict the bible too much.

    1709: King Kristian III of Denmark killed by court members after trying to force the church to canonize him while alive. Other kings, however, like the kernel of the idea and declare their birthday, coronation day and so on national holidays in the next decades.

    1715: Sweden enters the war against Vladimir-Suzdal, to get the once lost parts of Finland and Estonia back. Poland also enters the war, for the former princedoms Polozk and Turov-Pinsk.

    1718-23: Ireland conquered by England.


    Central Europe:
    ~1700: The Bronze Age of the Netherlands. After the won war against France, the country can rebuild its former strength - although other powers, like England, France, Italy and Spain are now active in trade too. Fortunately, at least Sweden with its colony Australia (South Africa) and the Indian trade is Dutch-friendly.

    1701: Margrave and elector Heinrich V takes power in Brandenburg-Silesia, ending the collegial government of Sweden, Prussia and Franconia-Pomerania over his country.

    1712: Charles / Károly VI becomes king of Hungary. During his long reign, he reforms Hungary - taking many ideas and technologies from Russia (thus indirectly, China).

    1722: After the death of king (and Roman emperor) Eduard IV, the Netherlands are united in personal union with Sweden-Norway-Mecklenburg. France objects the unification.

    1724: France finds an ally in Luxembourg; Dutch Succession War (also called Dutch Unification War) begins.


    East Asia:
    1702: Korea makes a strategical alliance with the Russians against Nippon.

    1703, silvester: Earthquake of Edo (Tokyo). More than 100,000 victims.

    1707: Champa (S Vietnam) stops paying tribute to Hong, with impunity. The example is soon followed.
    30,000 Nipponese killed by Tokaido-Nankaido tsunami.

    1714-25: Indian War. Persia (backed by France) fights Vijayanagar (backed by Britain, Sweden, Netherlands).

    1721: Sea battle of Jeju island. Korean-Russian fleet defeats Nipponese. Nipponese piracy restricted.


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