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  1. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    Haha, it has rather become a trope of mine hasn't it XD

    I'm trying to create a sort of United Russia esque party (though it would probably have another name) and when it came to writing that meme list, it essentially became a substitution for lack of better ideas. The two lists with Kilroy are basically the same idea just done slightly differently...
     
  2. Comisario Gunnar Sträng's Chocolate Homunculus

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    I suppose it has, but I'm sure you know you weren't the first to use it. That's what I was winking for.
     
  3. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    Oh no of course not, I've probably lifted the idea from somewhere or other! Still, there's nothing new under the sun... That list started out as an attempt to create a sort of vaporwave/cyberpunk list, but I think I've got a bit off course...
     
  4. Comisario Gunnar Sträng's Chocolate Homunculus

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    I love me some vaporwave, haha.

    But yes, I was specifically referring to this:

     
  5. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    Oh haha

    Hmm that's a very interesting list, don't think I've really given it a look before...

    Still since "United Russia" is a thing and that's what those parties are like, I suspect that's where I got the idea from...
     
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  6. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    2011-2020: Douglas Carswell (Conservative-Alternative-Liberty 2010 Coalition)


    The Objectivist with objectives to achieve

    A E S T H E T I C S
     
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    PRESIDENTS OF THE CONGRESS OF THE UNION (1788-1796)

    1788-1789:
    George Washington (Non-Partisan)
    1789-1790: John Adams (Non-Partisan)
    1790-1791: James Madison (Non-Partisan)
    1791-1792: Alexander Hamilton (Federalist)
    1792-1793: Charles Cotesworth-Pinckney (Federalist)
    1793-1794: Alexander Hamilton (Federalist)
    1794-1795: Charles Cotesworth-Pinckney (Federalist)

    1795-1796: George Clinton (Anti-Administration)
    1796-1796: Rufus King (Federalist)
    1796-1796:
    Alexander Hamilton (Federalist) [Acting President] disputed

    DICTATORIAL/EMERGENCY PERIOD (1796-1800)

    1796-1798: George Washington [Dictator: Non-Partisan, Federalist, Anti-Administration and Military Support]
    1798-1800:
    Henry Knox [Dictator: Non-Partisan, Federalist, Anti-Administration and Military Support]

    PRESIDENTS OF THE SECOND AMERICAN REPUBLIC (1800-----)

    1800-1806:
    Henry Knox (Non-Partisan)
    1806-1812: James Monroe (Republican)
    1812-1818: Aaron Burr (Nationalist)

     
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  8. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    THE UNSTEADY SHIP OF STATE
    The political turbulence of the 1930s carries on, forever...
    1929-1932: Ramsay MacDonald (Labour)
    1929: (Minority with Liberal Confidence and Supply) Def: Stanley Baldwin (Conservative), David Lloyd-George (Liberal)
    1932-1934: Ramsay MacDonald ("National" Labour leading National Government with Conservatives, Liberals and Independent Nationals)
    1934-1935: Stanley Baldwin (Conservative)

    1934: (National Government with Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals) Def: Arthur Henderson (Labour), John Simon (Liberal), Ramsay MacDonald (National Labour), Oswald Mosley (New), David Lloyd-George (Independent Liberal), Fenner Brockway (ILP)
    1935-1937: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative leading National Government with Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1937-1938: Edward Wood, 1st Viscount Halifax (Conservative leading National Government with Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1938-1940: Edward Wood, 1st Viscount Halifax (Conservative)

    1938: (National Government with National Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals) Def: Clement Attlee (Labour), John Simon (National Liberal), Herbert Samuel (Liberal), Oswald Mosley (New), Malcom MacDonald (National Labour), James Maxton (ILP)
    1940-1943: Stafford Cripps (Labour)
    1940: (Popular Front with Constitutional, New, Liberals, ILP and "Anti-Appeasement" National Labour) Def: Edward Wood, 1st Viscount Halifax (Conservative), Winston Churchill (Constitutional), John Simon (National Liberal), Oliver Baldwin (New), William Beveridge (Liberal), Malcom MacDonald (National Labour), James Maxton (ILP), none ("Anti-Appeasement" National Labour)
    1943-1944: Stafford Cripps (Labour leading Minority Popular Front with New and ILP)
    1944-1948: Anthony Eden (Conservative)

    1944: (National Government with National Liberals, Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals) Def: Stafford Cripps (Popular Front: Labour-ILP), Ernest Brown (National Liberal), Harold Macmillan (New), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Duff Cooper (Continuity Constitutional), Malcom MacDonald (National Labour)
    1948-1949: Anthony Eden (Conservative leading Minority National Government with National Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1949-1949: Richard Butler (Conservative leading Minority National Government with National Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1949-1954: Richard Butler (Conservative)
    1949: (National Government with National Liberals,
    National Labour and Independent Nationals) Def: Arthur Greenwood (Labour), Ernest Brown (National Liberal), Harold Macmillan (New), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Duff Cooper (National Progressive), Malcom MacDonald (National Labour)
    1954-1959: James Chuter Ede (Labour)
    1955: (Popular Front with New and Liberals) Def: Richard Butler (Conservative), Clement Davies (National Liberal), Nye Bevan (New), Jo Grimond (Liberal), Selwyn Lloyd (National Labour)
    1959-1963: Quintin Hogg (Conservative)
    1959: (National Government with National Liberals,
    National Labour and Independent Nationals) Def: James Chuter Ede (Labour), Clement Davies (National Liberal), Nye Bevan (New), Jo Grimond (Liberal), Reginald Maudling (National Labour)
    1963-1964: David Eccles (Conservative leading National Government with National Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1964-1969: David Eccles (Conservative)
    1964: (National Government with National Liberals,
    National Labour and Independent Nationals) Def: Frank Soskice (Labour), David Renton (National Liberal), Harold Wilson (New), Mark Bonham-Carter (Liberal), Reginald Maudling (National Labour)
    (WiP)
     
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  9. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    1964-1969: Harold Wilson (Labour)
    1964: (Majority) Def: Reginald Maudling (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
    1966: (Majority) Def: Edward Heath (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)

    1969-1970: Roy Jenkins (Labour Majority)
    1970-1979: Richard Kidston Law (Conservative)

    1970: (Majority) Def: Roy Jenkins (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
    1974: (Majority) Def: Tony Crosland (Labour), Michael Foot (Democratic Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal), Edward Heath ("Heathite" Conservatives)

    1979-1985: David Marquand (Labour)
    1979: (Coalition with Liberals and Heathites) Def: Richard Kidston Law (Conservative), Barbera Castle (Democratic Labour), John Pardoe (Liberal), Edward Heath ("Heathite" Conservatives)
     
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  10. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    @Comisario Igorning the above list what do you think of the idea of Kidston Law as a sort of early Tory Corbyn? I'm not really sure he'd be electable, but he'd certainly drag the party to his ideology...
     
  11. Comisario Gunnar Sträng's Chocolate Homunculus

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    Well, he's rather old come 1970 (let alone making it to 1979, when he'd be a year from death) and - as you say - the idea of him winning an election seems so implausible as to be laughable. Leaving these points aside, I really don't think the Conservative Party could really be the vehicle for Law's brand of libertarianism and I don't think there's a plausible way to have him PM in the post-war years without a major POD in the pre-war years.
     
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  12. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    No I agree, even as I was writing it I couldn't help but feel of all my lists this is remarkably the least plausible... It's a shame because I think there's great potential for a TL about him, but he was just never going to make it in the Tory Party, at least not prior to the late 70s by which time it's too late... If somehow Attlee and Labour mess it all up post-war (maybe even becoming very authoritarian to prevent dissent) you could maybe see him as PM in the late 50s to early 60s promising a return to simpler times, but even then it's a stretch...
     
  13. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    1945-1950: Clement Attlee (Labour)
    1945: (Majority) Def: Winston Churchill (National Government), Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Harry Pollit (Communist)
    1950-1953: Winston Churchill (Conservative)
    1950: (Majority) Def: Clement Attlee (Labour), Clement Davies (Liberal)
    1953-1954: Richard Butler (Conservative Majority)
    1954-1954: Richard Butler (Conservative Minority with Liberal Confidence and Supply)
    1954-1958: Clement Attlee (Labour)

    1954: (Majority) Def: Richard Butler/Harold Macmillan (Pro-Devaluation Conservatives/Anti-Devaluation Conservatives), Clement Davies (Liberal)
    1958-1959: Nye Bevan (Labour Majority)
    1959-1968: Richard Kidston Law (Conservative)

    1959: (Majority) Def: Nye Bevan (Labour), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
     
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    1964-1969: Harold Wilson (Labour)
    1964: (Majority) Def: Reginald Maudling (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)
    1966: (Majority) Def: Edward Heath (Conservative), Jo Grimond (Liberal)

    1969-1970: Roy Jenkins (Labour Majority)
    1970-1979: Richard Kidston Law (Conservative)

    1970: (Majority) Def: Roy Jenkins (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
    1974: (Majority) Def: Tony Crosland (Labour), Michael Foot (Democratic Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal), Edward Heath ("Heathite" Conservatives)

    1979-1985: David Marquand (Labour)
    1979: (Coalition with Liberals and Heathites) Def: Richard Kidston Law (Conservative), Barbara Castle (Democratic Labour), John Pardoe (Liberal), Edward Heath ("Heathite" Conservatives)
    1984: (Majority) Def: Nicholas Ridley (Conservative), Norman St. John-Setvas (Centre), Eric Heffer (Democratic Labour), David Steel (Liberal)

    1985-1988: Bill Rodgers (Labour Majority)
    1988-1993: Bill Rodgers (Labour)

    1988: (Majority) Def: Geoffrey Howe (Conservative), Michael Heseltine (Centre), Alan Beith (Liberal), Tony Benn (Democratic Labour)
    1993-1996: Nigel Lawson (Conservative)
    March 1993: (Minority with Centre and Liberal Confidence and Supply) Def: Bill Rodgers (Labour), Peter Walker (Centre), Alan Beith (Liberal), Jack Straw (Democratic Labour), Derek Hatton ("True Left" Democratic Labour)
    November 1993: (Majority) Def: Bill Rodgers (Labour), Peter Walker (Centre), Alan Beith (Liberal), Jack Straw (Democratic Labour), Derek Hatton ("True Left" Democratic Labour)

    1996-1997: Peter Lilley (Conservative Majority)
    1997-2002: Peter Lilley (Conservative)

    1997: (Majority) Def: David Clark (Labour), Stephen Dorrel (Centre), Alex Carlile (Liberal), Michael Meacher (Democratic Left), Peter Taafe (Democratic Socialist)
     
  15. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    IT'S A BIRD! IT'S A PLANE! IT'S SELSDON MAN!

    1970-1973: Edward Heath (Conservative)

    1970: (Majority) Def: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
    1973-1975: Keith Joseph (Conservative Majority)
    1975-1977: Keith Joseph (Conservative)

    June 1970: (Minority with Liberal Confidence and Supply) Def: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)
    November 1970: (Minority with Liberal Confidence and Supply) Def: Harold Wilson (Labour), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal)

    1977-1977: Harold Wilson (Labour)
    1977: (Majority) Def: Keith Joseph (Conservative), Jeremy Thorpe (Liberal), Ian Paisley (Loyal Unionist League)
    1977-1978: Michael Foot (Labour Majority)
    1978-1982: Roy Jenkins (Labour Majority)
    1982-1989: Nicholas Ridley (Conservative)

    1982: (Majority) Def: Roy Jenkins (Labour), David Penhaligon (Liberal)
    1986: (Majority) Def: Denis Healey (Labour), David Steel (Liberal)
     
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    1935-1936: Stanley Baldwin (Conservative)
    1936-1936: Winston Churchill (Royalist-"Royalist" Liberal-"Royalist" National Liberal Coalition)
    1936-1937: Austen Chamberlain ("Anti-Royal" Conservative)
    1936: (National Government with Labour, "Anti-Royal" Liberals, National Labour, Independent Nationals and "Anti-Royal" National Liberals)
    1937-1937: Austen Chamberlain (Unionist leading National Government with Labour, New Liberal and National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1937-1940: Samuel Hoare (Unionist leading National Government with Labour, New Liberal, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1940-1941: Anthony Eden (Unionist)
    1940: (National Government with New Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1941-1943: Anthony Eden (Unionist leading Wartime All-Party Coalition with Labour, New Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1943-1944: Oliver Lyttleton (Unionist leading Wartime All-Party Coalition with Labour, New Liberals, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
    1944-1949: Oliver Lyttleton (Unionist)
    1949-1950: Manny Shinwell (Labour)
    1950-1954: Manny Shinwell (Labour)
    1954-1954: Manny Shinwell (Labour)
    1954-1956: Gwilym Lloyd-George (New Liberal)
    1956-1956: Nye Bevan (Labour)
    1956-1957: Derrick Heathcoat-Amory (Unionist)
    1957-1969: Derrick Heathcoat-Amory (New Democratic)
     
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    (Based on this: http://sregan.deviantart.com/art/Captain-Crunch-s-World-an-alternate-history-map-493969956)

    CAPTAIN CRUNCH'S WORLD (UK):
    1979-1988: Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
    1988-1989: Tom King (Conservative)
    1989-1995: David Steel (Liberal)
    1995-1996: Bill Rodgers (SDP)
    1996-2001: Charles Kennedy (Alliance)
    2001-2004: Paddy Ashdown (Alliance Majority)
    2004-2009: Jack Straw (Labour)

    2004: (Minority with PEOPLE Confidence and Supply) Def: Paddy Ashdown (Alliance), Nick Griffin (National Integrity), John Redwood (Conservative)
    2009-20--: Tim Berners-Lee (Alliance)
    2009: [National Government with Labour, Conservatives and PEOPLE] Def: Anthony Blair (National Integrity), Douglas Carswell (Libertarian)
    2014: [National Government with Labour, Conservatives and PEOPLE] Def: Anthony Blair (National Integrity), Raheem Kassem (Libertarian), Collective (Pirate)
     
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  18. Beata Beatrix Duchess of Buffonia

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    Someone used my font. ;)
     
  19. Cevolian Probably doesn't know what he's talking about... Gone Fishin'

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    Haha yeah I saw you using it and thought I'd try a retro list of my own... I don't really like it though, not vaporwave enough...
     
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    Fairs. It worked for my very sort of cyberpunk world, though.

    H O W A B O U T T A H O M A?
     
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