Alternate Political Symbols
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They are probably the closest yes. I still think it's a brilliant bit of work because it shows how truly complex politics can be.
Hapsburg
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The emblem, also used as a flag, by the Bandit Union, formally called the Union of Bandits and Pirates of Keystone. In practice, every bandit gang, terrorist cell, and pirate ship flew their own unique flag and colour. The Bandit Union was, as its name implies, a confederation of diverse criminal elements on planet Keystone rather than a tight and rigid military organisation. It did, however, attract mercenaries with military experience and its leadership strove for military efficiency and discipline among its trained fighters. The leader of the group was Constantine Bronstein, who designed and used the emblem as his personal banner.
Bronstein was a veteran of the colonial wars of the 3250s and early 3260s. He hailed from the "prosperous backwater" world of Keystone in the Outer Colonies. After serving in the Army for fifteen years, he returned home to a world he no longer recognised; the battles against the CLO had revealed to him the brutality of the Terran government, the corruption of its officials, and the social and economic injustices done to colonials in the Empire. He went into the wilderness and became a bandit, eventually connecting most of the bandit gangs, street gangs, and pirates of the planet into a federation under his leadership. With vast sums of money for bribery and expert hackers, he set in place a scheme to deorbit defence satellites and smuggle warheads into cities. The plan went by gradually, each piece falling into place, until his wrath was unleashed in the Keystone Incident of 3280. Over three million people were killed by Bronstein's attacks, including 620,000 killed in the capital district of Lakeside City, from a combination of nuclear bombs, conventional explosives, chemical gas attacks, and crashing most of the planet's satellite network into the surface. Bronstein himself was assassinated by a State Sec and Interstellar Police strike team two weeks after the bombing of Lakeside.
The emblem Bronstein used in all of his public addresses and videos, and which his bandits carried into battle, and which continued to be used by remnants of the Bandit Union for several months after his assassination, consists of a black keystone and several black skulls on a crimson field representing death, piracy, and banditry, with a white-outlined star representing radical revolt. The Bandit Union was more than just a criminal syndicate or a network of gangs; it was a terrorist organisation responsible for some of the most heinous acts of terrorism perpetrated in the 33rd century.
Bronstein was a veteran of the colonial wars of the 3250s and early 3260s. He hailed from the "prosperous backwater" world of Keystone in the Outer Colonies. After serving in the Army for fifteen years, he returned home to a world he no longer recognised; the battles against the CLO had revealed to him the brutality of the Terran government, the corruption of its officials, and the social and economic injustices done to colonials in the Empire. He went into the wilderness and became a bandit, eventually connecting most of the bandit gangs, street gangs, and pirates of the planet into a federation under his leadership. With vast sums of money for bribery and expert hackers, he set in place a scheme to deorbit defence satellites and smuggle warheads into cities. The plan went by gradually, each piece falling into place, until his wrath was unleashed in the Keystone Incident of 3280. Over three million people were killed by Bronstein's attacks, including 620,000 killed in the capital district of Lakeside City, from a combination of nuclear bombs, conventional explosives, chemical gas attacks, and crashing most of the planet's satellite network into the surface. Bronstein himself was assassinated by a State Sec and Interstellar Police strike team two weeks after the bombing of Lakeside.
The emblem Bronstein used in all of his public addresses and videos, and which his bandits carried into battle, and which continued to be used by remnants of the Bandit Union for several months after his assassination, consists of a black keystone and several black skulls on a crimson field representing death, piracy, and banditry, with a white-outlined star representing radical revolt. The Bandit Union was more than just a criminal syndicate or a network of gangs; it was a terrorist organisation responsible for some of the most heinous acts of terrorism perpetrated in the 33rd century.
Four important political parties in an alternate France (part of my AH wiki timeline, yadda yadda)
The Radical Platform is a platformist, far-left, anarchist party founded by supporters of Eurasian PM Nestor Makhno in the 1930s. As with the other platformist parties of Europe, while they still adhere to a theory of anarchism as a final achievable goal, they plan to do it in incrementalist ways through the creation of free collectives and stronger syndicates (as done in the UFIT to France's south, and the free soviets of Eurasia). The theory of Makhnovism spread pretty quickly to postwar France, and soon enough found itself as the main far-left organisation. Platformists are the only political party that actively seeks to end the 1920 compromise between the Orléanists and the republicans that allowed for the diarchical government (the rest of the left plays lip service to the idea, but doesn't really care). They're the only large left-wing party not part of the Front des Gauches, which they see as "statist and authoritarian". The PR's main achievement in democratic France has been the spearheading of women's, minorities', syndicates', and LGBT rights, which have turned France into one of the most inclusive societies in Europe.
To the right, and far more statist than the PR, is the Enragés, the preferred party of the left-wing student and the academic, but not really popular outside those areas. While decidedly Marxian, the Enragés have taken a position of incrementalism and democratic socialism that puts them in the same ideological league as the German Grün-Linke, the British Socialist Party, the Swedish Labour Party or the Marxist-Bukhanite Free Association up in Russia (the only major regional split of the Communists of Eurasia that is not under control of the Anarchist faction). The Enragés share much of the social liberation movements proposed by the PR, but also emphasise economic issues over social ones, and are far less libertarian than their anarchist counterparts. They are usually moderate enough to belong to the Front des Gauches, although sometimes they do take opposition. The Enragés compete heartily with the PR and the SFIO for the urban worker vote, but usually fail to gain as much in those areas as the other two. They're decidedly a platform of the intelligentsia.
To the right of the Enragés (and the SFIO, who are not represented here) is the Radical and Socialist-Radical Party (PRRS), formerly the Radical, Republican and Socialist-Radical Party, which has moderated with the years along the classical political trend of sinistrisme. Today they're the standard-bearers of the Front des Gauches, but they're the most moderate of the bunch; a big-tent party, they are mostly composed of three factions; the so-called Jacobins, who are radical liberals and split on republicanism (much like their French Revolution counterparts), the Blanquistes, or populist monarchists (a movement founded by defectors from the Boulangist dictatorship of the 1900s) and les amis de l'abaisé, social democrats, moderate on republicanism and based on the expansion of the welfare state. This third group is by far the most prominent, as it's the descendant of the coalition of political groups that overthrew the Boulangist-Drumontian monarchy at the end of the Great War and established the current political system (alongside Jaurés' socialists, which would go on to create both the SFIO and Les Enragés).
The only political group to be covered in the right (even though there's many more right-wing groups, from moderate liberals to Christian democrats to conservatives to Boulangistes to radical monarchists) is the Democratic Alliance (AD), a classical liberal group created by dissenters who left the PRRS in 1953. Since then, the AD has been the primordial opposition to the Front des Gauches, and has entered government as the largest party several times. They're strongly classical liberal, tending towards ordoliberalism and, in extreme cases, social-liberalism. The party is notable for being the only party right of the PRRS to support a Republican form of government (even though they're quiet about it and don't even bother putting that in in their manifestos). They're usually seen as a "rich man's party" seeking to undermine the French welfare state.
The Radical Platform is a platformist, far-left, anarchist party founded by supporters of Eurasian PM Nestor Makhno in the 1930s. As with the other platformist parties of Europe, while they still adhere to a theory of anarchism as a final achievable goal, they plan to do it in incrementalist ways through the creation of free collectives and stronger syndicates (as done in the UFIT to France's south, and the free soviets of Eurasia). The theory of Makhnovism spread pretty quickly to postwar France, and soon enough found itself as the main far-left organisation. Platformists are the only political party that actively seeks to end the 1920 compromise between the Orléanists and the republicans that allowed for the diarchical government (the rest of the left plays lip service to the idea, but doesn't really care). They're the only large left-wing party not part of the Front des Gauches, which they see as "statist and authoritarian". The PR's main achievement in democratic France has been the spearheading of women's, minorities', syndicates', and LGBT rights, which have turned France into one of the most inclusive societies in Europe.
To the right, and far more statist than the PR, is the Enragés, the preferred party of the left-wing student and the academic, but not really popular outside those areas. While decidedly Marxian, the Enragés have taken a position of incrementalism and democratic socialism that puts them in the same ideological league as the German Grün-Linke, the British Socialist Party, the Swedish Labour Party or the Marxist-Bukhanite Free Association up in Russia (the only major regional split of the Communists of Eurasia that is not under control of the Anarchist faction). The Enragés share much of the social liberation movements proposed by the PR, but also emphasise economic issues over social ones, and are far less libertarian than their anarchist counterparts. They are usually moderate enough to belong to the Front des Gauches, although sometimes they do take opposition. The Enragés compete heartily with the PR and the SFIO for the urban worker vote, but usually fail to gain as much in those areas as the other two. They're decidedly a platform of the intelligentsia.
To the right of the Enragés (and the SFIO, who are not represented here) is the Radical and Socialist-Radical Party (PRRS), formerly the Radical, Republican and Socialist-Radical Party, which has moderated with the years along the classical political trend of sinistrisme. Today they're the standard-bearers of the Front des Gauches, but they're the most moderate of the bunch; a big-tent party, they are mostly composed of three factions; the so-called Jacobins, who are radical liberals and split on republicanism (much like their French Revolution counterparts), the Blanquistes, or populist monarchists (a movement founded by defectors from the Boulangist dictatorship of the 1900s) and les amis de l'abaisé, social democrats, moderate on republicanism and based on the expansion of the welfare state. This third group is by far the most prominent, as it's the descendant of the coalition of political groups that overthrew the Boulangist-Drumontian monarchy at the end of the Great War and established the current political system (alongside Jaurés' socialists, which would go on to create both the SFIO and Les Enragés).
The only political group to be covered in the right (even though there's many more right-wing groups, from moderate liberals to Christian democrats to conservatives to Boulangistes to radical monarchists) is the Democratic Alliance (AD), a classical liberal group created by dissenters who left the PRRS in 1953. Since then, the AD has been the primordial opposition to the Front des Gauches, and has entered government as the largest party several times. They're strongly classical liberal, tending towards ordoliberalism and, in extreme cases, social-liberalism. The party is notable for being the only party right of the PRRS to support a Republican form of government (even though they're quiet about it and don't even bother putting that in in their manifestos). They're usually seen as a "rich man's party" seeking to undermine the French welfare state.
Australia? New Zealand? Or is it nothing to do with Our Fathers' Stars?Just a preview of something coming soon.
Nothing to do with Our Fathers' Stars.
I thought that it'd be obvious, as it's the big thing I did before I started Our Fathers' Stars. It's about time for another iteration.
Oh! It's the ideological quizzes!
Yes. After the last one was overshadowed by Brexit, I'm moving up the schedule, as the November one would be overshadowed by the U.S. election. I'm also working on some other incentives to boost turnout.
Here are some parties I made up for a project
THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS (A.K.A. "THE DOVES")
The Liberal Democrats were created in 1976 by Senator John V. Tunney and other Equality-Unionists who thought the party was too liberal to succeed after Robert Kennedy' two terms were up and Ted Kennedy declined running. (The Kennedy's were the two biggest EQ-ers and Ted would later join the Liberals) Although it has similar views to the Equality Union it does not believe in the more socialist tendencies a lot of EQ-ers believed in. Due to the fact that more moderate American Unionists could join and it was more open to cooperation, it became a very popular party. It's "Peace and only Peace" stance over war has meant it gets a lot of criticism, especially now with troubles in Europe and the middle east. The current party leader is Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut. It is liberal and is very popular in New England.
AMERICAN UNIONISTS (A.K.A. "UNIONISTS")
The American Unionists party is a centrist party made up of the remaining members of the Republican Party who aren't with Christian USA and moderate former-democrats. It was created in 1973 by Nelson Rockefeller after Ronald Reagan created The Christian USA party. It is seen as the main competitor of the Liberal Democrats and is the minority in the US Senate. Due to its member's views ranging from Socially-liberal republicans and Fiscally-conservative democrats, it has a lot of strife inside. But, by election day it always seems to have an accepted candidate. The current party leader is Sen. John Kasich of Ohio.
THE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS (A.K.A. "THE DOVES")
The Liberal Democrats were created in 1976 by Senator John V. Tunney and other Equality-Unionists who thought the party was too liberal to succeed after Robert Kennedy' two terms were up and Ted Kennedy declined running. (The Kennedy's were the two biggest EQ-ers and Ted would later join the Liberals) Although it has similar views to the Equality Union it does not believe in the more socialist tendencies a lot of EQ-ers believed in. Due to the fact that more moderate American Unionists could join and it was more open to cooperation, it became a very popular party. It's "Peace and only Peace" stance over war has meant it gets a lot of criticism, especially now with troubles in Europe and the middle east. The current party leader is Sen. Chris Murphy of Connecticut. It is liberal and is very popular in New England.
AMERICAN UNIONISTS (A.K.A. "UNIONISTS")
The American Unionists party is a centrist party made up of the remaining members of the Republican Party who aren't with Christian USA and moderate former-democrats. It was created in 1973 by Nelson Rockefeller after Ronald Reagan created The Christian USA party. It is seen as the main competitor of the Liberal Democrats and is the minority in the US Senate. Due to its member's views ranging from Socially-liberal republicans and Fiscally-conservative democrats, it has a lot of strife inside. But, by election day it always seems to have an accepted candidate. The current party leader is Sen. John Kasich of Ohio.
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Can we see some party logos for the Republic of Texas or the City-State of New York?
The American Liberal Party: A liberal, left-leaning major political party in the United States. The Liberal Party was launched by Franklin D. Roosevelt and Wendell Willkie during the 1948 election, taking members from both liberal Republicans and New Deal Democrats. Socially liberal, pro-union and favouring a mixed economy, the liberals are politically strongest in the Northwest (esp. New York) and the West Coast.
I'm pretty sure there's a magic spell preventing Texas from having communists.
Fred Brode, Lee Rhodes, Thomas Hickey, George Edwards, and Sen Katayama might disagree. Also, someone had to put up those Revolutionary Communist Party posters.
I did one very similar, actually, calling it the Liberty Party (hence Liberty Bell), and it was a red/blue bell with a white central star. How funny.
Just curious, which color variation do you think is the best looking? I'm kinda torn.
shiftygiant
Gone Fishin'
Top right or middle left.Just curious, which color variation do you think is the best looking? I'm kinda torn.
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Just curious, which color variation do you think is the best looking? I'm kinda torn.
I'm partial to the top two.
Just curious, which color variation do you think is the best looking? I'm kinda torn.
I quite like the top right and bottom right designs.