I'm playing it at the moment, I decided to try and keep track of shenanigans.
List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II
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I'm playing it at the moment, I decided to try and keep track of shenanigans.
I see you've gone down the Totalist route... I've always found Russia or the
It's odd actually, I'm trying to go down the Federationist route, but it made Mosley leader anyway...
Thanks for the NSS idea; would you like Republican Jesse Ventura and Democratic Michelle Bachmann with that?
Sure. I'll take two of our craziest politicians being in the major parties for President Wellstone making LBJ look like a slacker on expanding the welfare state.
That's also the second time I've seen that gif in two days. Of all gifs.
It's a very good gif.
Asami - Eternal New Deal-punk (update)
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Made a few updates to the roster, added in President Bouvier's footnote. It's coming along well.
President of the United States of America (1933 - 2076)
1933 - 1939: Franklin D. Roosevelt / John Nance Garner (Democratic) [1]
def. 1932: Pres. Herbert Hoover / Vice Pres. Charles Curtis (Rep.)
def. 1936: Gov. Alf Landon of Kansas / Mr. Frank Knox (Rep.)
1939 - 1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Charles L. McNary (Coalition For American Freedom) [2]
Elected unopposed in 1940
1944 - 1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Vacant (Democratic) [3]
1945 - 1953: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
def. 1944: Gen. of Armies Douglas MacArthur / Gov. Earl Warren of California (Republican)
def. 1948: Sen. Robert A. Taft of Ohio / Minority Leader Joseph William Martin, Jr. (Republican), Gov. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina / Frmr. Gov Ellis Arnall of Georgia (Southern Democratic), Justice William O. Douglas / Frmr. Vice Pres. Henry Wallace (Anti-Roosevelt Democrats)
1953 - 1961: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Liberal) [4]
def. 1952: Sen. Estes Kefauver of Tennessee / Sen. Alben W. Barkley of Kentucky (Democratic), Frmr. Gov. Harold Stassen of Minnesota / Gov. Thomas E. Dewey of New York (Republican)
def. 1956: Gov. Adlai Stevenson of Illinois / Rep. Richard Nixon for California (Democratic-Republican), Gov. George Bell Timmerman, Jr. of South Carolina / Gov. Thomas Bahnson Stanley of Virginia (Southern Democratic)
1961 - 1965: Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. / Royce Joyner (Liberal) [5]
def. 1960: Sen. Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson / Gov. Stanley Parish of Idaho (Democratic-Republican)
1965 - 1967: Margaret Chase Smith / Luis H. Álvarez (Democratic-Republican) [6]
def. 1964: Vice Pres. Royce Joyner / Gov. Lester B. Pearson of Ontario (Liberal)
1967 - 1973: Luis H. Álvarez / Robert D. Fulton (Unionist) [7]
def. 1968: Sen. George Wilson for Newfoundland / Gov. Fernando Belaúnde Terry of Lima Federal District (Liberal); Gov. Fidel Castro of Cuba / Rep. Che Guevara for Santa Fe (Socialist Workers); Gov. Juan Domingo Perón of Buenos Aires / Sen. Artur da Costa e Silva of Rio Grande do Sul (Militant America Faction)
1973 - 1979: Ronald W. Reagan / Richard M. Nixon (Liberal-Unionist Coupon) [8]
def. 1972: Gov. Pierre Trudeau of Quebec / General Hubert H. Humphrey (Progressive Liberals); Sen. Jacqueline Bouvier of New York / Gov. John Turner of Newfoundland (Chasite Unionists); Governor-General el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz of Fredonia / Mr. John Henrik Clarke (Pan-African Organization); Mr. John David Krieger / Mr. Salvador Allende (Socialist Workers)
def. 1976: Sen. Jacqueline Bouvier / Governor Pierre Trudeau (Progressive-Unionist Coupon)
1979 - 1985: Jacqueline Bouvier / Clark Hudson (Unionist) [9]
def. Apr. 1979: Pres. Ronald W. Reagan / Gov. Charles Hamilton of Ohio (Liberal); Mrs. Elizabeth Robertson / Sen. Frank Reddington of Florida (Progressive Liberal); Salvador Allende / Wilbur T. Johnson (Socialist Workers)
def. 1980: Gov. Charles Hamilton of Ohio / Pres. Tyler Smith of ABC (Liberal); Rep. Brian Mulroney of Quebec (Conservative Unionist); Chrm. Albert Gore of the AEF / Adm. Wesley Pierce, USN (Environmental Advocation); Mr. Thomas Carrick / Ms. Patricia Friedman (Social Credit)
1985 - 1993: Brian Mulroney / Amanda Mitsuyama (Conservative Unionist-Liberal Coupon) [10]
def. 1984: VP Clark Hudson / Sen. Don Haines of Luna (Unionist); Gov. Louis Martinez of Titan / Sen. Karen Weinberg of California (Progressive Liberal); Jorge Cruz / William Hennegau (Socialist Workers); David Allison / Chauncey Warden (Social Credit)
def. 1988: ???
1993 - 1998: Gregory Schmidt / Jacob Horvitz (Progressive Liberal)
def. 1992:
def. 1996:
1998 - 2001: Larry Swindon / Alexander C. Tillinghouse (Social Credit-Conservative Unionist Coupon)
def. 1998:
def. 2000:
[1] President Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected in the height of America's worst economic depression in 1933. His first term was spent investing significant effort in revitalizing the economy, and moving America away from the isolationism that was causing damage to her international standing in the face of the growing spectres of fascism. His second term was spent in much the same way, before the alien invasions began. the Invasion Fleet landed on Earth and invaded through portals and drop-ships, ranging everywhere from Roswell, New Mexico, to Berlin, to Beijing, the Seoul, so on and so forth. Social order in the United States collapsed, and President Roosevelt mobilized for a national emergency. In 1939, after Vice President John N. Garner was killed while in Texas, FDR piloted the 'Coalition for American Freedom', inviting Senate Republican leader Charles L. McNary to take office as Vice President, effective immediately. Overstepping Congress, FDR passed an Executive Order enabling him to do so. As a result, the 1940 election went on but was largely 'rubber-stamp' as FDR was re-elected unopposed.
[2] FDR's 3rd term as President was spent fighting the invasion, as the aliens advanced deep into American territory. In 1940, numerous caches of alien weaponry were captured, and the United States began to co-opt their technology for themselves. Franklin Roosevelt benefitted from some of the civilian technology gained from the alien crashes, namely, the nano-molecular constructors. FDR's health hit new heights, and he began to walk again, which rallied public morale. The President began to push for rapid armament, and signed the Concordat in July 1940, aligning the United States with that of Hitler's Third Reich, Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy, Great Britain, France and the Soviet Union. The first American 'hovership' rolled off the line in 1942, named the H-42 'Cactus Jack'.
[3] After the death of Vice President McNary in 1944, FDR returned to a single party, the Democratic Party, and nominated Harry S. Truman to the office of Vice President instead-- the Missouri politician was naive in many ways, but was a contributive effort to FDR's White House. During this term, the United States unlocked the secrets of the atomic bomb, and used it numerous times against alien invaders in the Mexican plateaus and in Africa. In 1947, America's first orbital spaceship, the USS John Nance Garner, was rolled off the line, showing how quickly technological innovation was moving against the alien threat. In 1948, President Roosevelt declared a 'global crusade against the alien menace', and was joined with Adolf Hitler, whom angrily stated that 'the time was now to wipe the sub-species off the face of the Earth'. The 1948 election saw a divided Democratic field, with the Southerners and anti-Roosevelt candidates fighting for their own votes. FDR succeeded in winning, but used this to pivot into a new political party to unite the liberals of the Republicans and Democrats.
[4] FDR's 5th and 6th terms were spent focusing entirely on the war against the alien species. During the 1950s, America and her allies set the alien invaders back by several exponential ways; leading up to the establishment of the Galactic Senate, and the launch of several 'faster than light' ships, including the USS Valour, KMS Horst Wessel, HMS Balfour, and the Niigata. During this period, the United States and her allies pushed the aliens back on all fronts, taking hundreds of planets across the galaxy, with Mars serving as the 'toughest nut to crack'. As well, during this period, several million peoples of varying ethnicity were deported from nations across the globe to far-off planetary conquests--Mexicans, Indigenous peoples, Sorbs, Bosniaks, Slovenes, Slovaks, Ukrainians, et al.--the United States definitely participated in this, giving several white supremacists passage to a new planet of their own (Confederate States) or creating black republics in the stars. FDR did not run again in 1960, deciding that with the war going so well, he could afford to retire.
[5] Henry Cabot Lodge was a one-term President by choice, rather than by popular acclaim. He did not desire to run for President on his own volition except in 1960, where he went up against Lyndon B. Johnson and Stanley Parish, both conservative Dem-Reps whom were opposed to keeping the Concordat together. They were defeated, but the Democratic-Republicans would be back in 1964, they were certain. During this period, the Race was exterminated after the homeworld was razed to ash by the SS-Galaktischen Sturmtruppen (SS-GS) which killed millions of Race citizens in a reprisal for the slaughter of entire cities of German citizens by their invading armies. The remaining fleets of the Race, and colonies, were soon wiped out by the Luftwaffe's dozen plus 'Stardestroyer' ships.
During this period, the United States Constitution was ratified to block Presidents from serving more than two consecutive terms.
[6] Margaret Chase Smith was a well-liked woman. She was sharp as a tack, and took no nonsense. During her administration, the United States admitted millions upon millions of square miles of territory to the United States, after it became painfully obvious that none of the nations of the American hemisphere would be able to survive in the new, space-faring age. By the time of her assassination by Brazilian nationalists in 1967, the United States had expanded her Terran territory from the arctic poles of Canada, to the tip of Patagonia--and with it, the political scene was becoming incredibly chaotic. Luis H. Alvarez, a Mexican political leader, succeeded her after she was shot and killed by a Brazilian nationalist in 1967.
[7] Under President Alvarez, the Democratic-Republican Party changed it's name to 'Unionist' to invoke a more unified and less 'oxymoronic' name, as well as to extend inclusiveness to the many many conservatives south of the equator. 1968 was a chaotic election, with Alvarez challenged not only by the Wilson/Terry ticket for the Liberals, but also socialist revolutionaries Che Guevara and Fidel Castro; and militant anti-democratic figures such as Governor Peron and Senator Silva. Alvarez managed to emerge victorious, after presiding over the 'victory' of the war against the xenos. The war boom began to end, as Alvarez took his second term of office--it became obvious that he wouldn't win another.
During his presidency, the SCOTUS handed down the controversial Johnson v. Kwa'lun ruling which stated that the 13th Amendment did not apply to non-citizen extraterrestrial non-humanoids. This was controversial as it meant the legalization of alien slavery, which caused riots by African-Americans and others for weeks after the ruling. No amendment was ever proposed to 'amend' the 13th Amendment to fix this error.
[8] The Presidency of Ronald Reagan was an interesting one. After coming to power in the 1972 election, the United States moved to enact a more 'globalist' trend of elections, doing away with the electoral college by 1977; his presidency was focused on reform and modernization. As such, he attracted a number of splintering parties from both him and his Vice President's agenda. In 1976, he faced not only progressive opposition to Nixon, but also Chasite ideological schism from within the Unionists. His Presidency came to an end in 1979 after the Casseopeia Affair, the death of Vice President Nixon, and the subsequent 'vote of no confidence'.
[9] The ministry of Jacqueline Bouvier was a remarkable turn around from the 'interesting times' of the Reagan presidency. Jacqueline Bouvier expressed little interest in social and political reform, instead focusing on expanding the role of the welfare state in providing for the several hundred million Americans from pole to pole, and from star to star. Military and space funding were increased, and the government was very liberal in the amount of money it tossed into new age corporate consortiums intend on resource exploitation and xenoslavery in the far-off systems. She also provided significant military funding to the Free Systems in exchange for a number of trade concessions. Under her watchful eye, the Trans-Sol Warpway was constructed using light-travel nodes, and with the help of the Ford-Opel Company, managed to get 'spacecraft for the common man' as a goal for the late 20th century. Ford-Opel became the leader in American engineering where it came to civilian space-craft, only rivaled by the Honda Corporation after it's acquisition by American investors in 1983.
In 1984, President Bouvier signed into law the Haines-Wagner Act of 1984, which renewed the mandate for the National Recovery Administration another 25 years. The NRA had been a major piece of Franklin Roosevelt's administration, and by 1984, it was integrated into the American mindset as an absolute necessity for capitalism to prosper. Under the auspices of the NRA, competition and price of living had been maintained at a healthy level, with inflation and wages rising at an equal pace. There were now dozens of companies competing for market share in almost every factor, with foreign companies winning great amounts of market share as well. While domestic companies such as Ford-Opel, Chrysler, Dodge, Honda, Studebaker, Kaiser-Frasier Motors, Pontiac, Oldsmobile and Packard were doing well, selling millions in cars and lightcraft every year; foreign companies such as Nissan, Mercedes, Volkswagen, BMW, Ferrari, McLaren, Jaguar, Yugo and Lada were doing well too--the cars from fascist regimes often had a hefty import fee, but were popular enough to appear in many magazines through out the 1980s. Soviet made Ladas and Yugoslavian Yugos were popular for their 'cheap construction', and 'reliability', with many American engineers assisting their communist friends in building the vehicles.
In the way of telecommunications, Bouvier's SCOTUS utilized the NRA and the Haines-Wagner Act to finally divest the Bell monopoly. Bell had been an important asset to the war, picking up many companies such as Motorola, IBM and General Electric in the process, their overmassed power lead to a crusade on Bouvier's part against them. AT&T's breakup in 1984 was a major blow to Bell, which never recovered. The remembrance of AT&T's importance in jumpstarting the information age is often forgotten, as many of the companies that AT&T absorbed, got their patents back. Motorola was restored, and became America's #1 producer of shortwave, lightwave and transgalactic radios-- IBM became remembered for leading the way in server infrastructure, partnering with Japanese consortium NSX, American companies Advanced Micron Devices, Intelligent Architecture, Microware, and Phazer to bring a new age of personal computers to the home, something that had never been done before the 1980s.
Despite her soaring popularity in the late years of her term of office, she decided not to pursue a 2nd term of office in 1984, citing that she wished to go home and enjoy the remainder of her life without the stress of Washington politics.
[10] ...
President of the United States of America (1933 - 2076)
1933 - 1939: Franklin D. Roosevelt / John Nance Garner (Democratic) [1]
def. 1932: Pres. Herbert Hoover / Vice Pres. Charles Curtis (Rep.)
def. 1936: Gov. Alf Landon of Kansas / Mr. Frank Knox (Rep.)
1939 - 1944: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Charles L. McNary (Coalition For American Freedom) [2]
Elected unopposed in 1940
1944 - 1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Vacant (Democratic) [3]
1945 - 1953: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Harry S. Truman (Democratic)
def. 1944: Gen. of Armies Douglas MacArthur / Gov. Earl Warren of California (Republican)
def. 1948: Sen. Robert A. Taft of Ohio / Minority Leader Joseph William Martin, Jr. (Republican), Gov. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina / Frmr. Gov Ellis Arnall of Georgia (Southern Democratic), Justice William O. Douglas / Frmr. Vice Pres. Henry Wallace (Anti-Roosevelt Democrats)
1953 - 1961: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Liberal) [4]
def. 1952: Sen. Estes Kefauver of Tennessee / Sen. Alben W. Barkley of Kentucky (Democratic), Frmr. Gov. Harold Stassen of Minnesota / Gov. Thomas E. Dewey of New York (Republican)
def. 1956: Gov. Adlai Stevenson of Illinois / Rep. Richard Nixon for California (Democratic-Republican), Gov. George Bell Timmerman, Jr. of South Carolina / Gov. Thomas Bahnson Stanley of Virginia (Southern Democratic)
1961 - 1965: Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. / Royce Joyner (Liberal) [5]
def. 1960: Sen. Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson / Gov. Stanley Parish of Idaho (Democratic-Republican)
1965 - 1967: Margaret Chase Smith / Luis H. Álvarez (Democratic-Republican) [6]
def. 1964: Vice Pres. Royce Joyner / Gov. Lester B. Pearson of Ontario (Liberal)
1967 - 1973: Luis H. Álvarez / Robert D. Fulton (Unionist) [7]
def. 1968: Sen. George Wilson for Newfoundland / Gov. Fernando Belaúnde Terry of Lima Federal District (Liberal); Gov. Fidel Castro of Cuba / Rep. Che Guevara for Santa Fe (Socialist Workers); Gov. Juan Domingo Perón of Buenos Aires / Sen. Artur da Costa e Silva of Rio Grande do Sul (Militant America Faction)
1973 - 1979: Ronald W. Reagan / Richard M. Nixon (Liberal-Unionist Coupon) [8]
def. 1972: Gov. Pierre Trudeau of Quebec / General Hubert H. Humphrey (Progressive Liberals); Sen. Jacqueline Bouvier of New York / Gov. John Turner of Newfoundland (Chasite Unionists); Governor-General el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz of Fredonia / Mr. John Henrik Clarke (Pan-African Organization); Mr. John David Krieger / Mr. Salvador Allende (Socialist Workers)
def. 1976: Sen. Jacqueline Bouvier / Governor Pierre Trudeau (Progressive-Unionist Coupon)
1979 - 1985: Jacqueline Bouvier / Clark Hudson (Unionist) [9]
def. Apr. 1979: Pres. Ronald W. Reagan / Gov. Charles Hamilton of Ohio (Liberal); Mrs. Elizabeth Robertson / Sen. Frank Reddington of Florida (Progressive Liberal); Salvador Allende / Wilbur T. Johnson (Socialist Workers)
def. 1980: Gov. Charles Hamilton of Ohio / Pres. Tyler Smith of ABC (Liberal); Rep. Brian Mulroney of Quebec (Conservative Unionist); Chrm. Albert Gore of the AEF / Adm. Wesley Pierce, USN (Environmental Advocation); Mr. Thomas Carrick / Ms. Patricia Friedman (Social Credit)
1985 - 1993: Brian Mulroney / Amanda Mitsuyama (Conservative Unionist-Liberal Coupon) [10]
def. 1984: VP Clark Hudson / Sen. Don Haines of Luna (Unionist); Gov. Louis Martinez of Titan / Sen. Karen Weinberg of California (Progressive Liberal); Jorge Cruz / William Hennegau (Socialist Workers); David Allison / Chauncey Warden (Social Credit)
def. 1988: ???
1993 - 1998: Gregory Schmidt / Jacob Horvitz (Progressive Liberal)
def. 1992:
def. 1996:
1998 - 2001: Larry Swindon / Alexander C. Tillinghouse (Social Credit-Conservative Unionist Coupon)
def. 1998:
def. 2000:
[1] President Franklin D. Roosevelt was elected in the height of America's worst economic depression in 1933. His first term was spent investing significant effort in revitalizing the economy, and moving America away from the isolationism that was causing damage to her international standing in the face of the growing spectres of fascism. His second term was spent in much the same way, before the alien invasions began. the Invasion Fleet landed on Earth and invaded through portals and drop-ships, ranging everywhere from Roswell, New Mexico, to Berlin, to Beijing, the Seoul, so on and so forth. Social order in the United States collapsed, and President Roosevelt mobilized for a national emergency. In 1939, after Vice President John N. Garner was killed while in Texas, FDR piloted the 'Coalition for American Freedom', inviting Senate Republican leader Charles L. McNary to take office as Vice President, effective immediately. Overstepping Congress, FDR passed an Executive Order enabling him to do so. As a result, the 1940 election went on but was largely 'rubber-stamp' as FDR was re-elected unopposed.
[2] FDR's 3rd term as President was spent fighting the invasion, as the aliens advanced deep into American territory. In 1940, numerous caches of alien weaponry were captured, and the United States began to co-opt their technology for themselves. Franklin Roosevelt benefitted from some of the civilian technology gained from the alien crashes, namely, the nano-molecular constructors. FDR's health hit new heights, and he began to walk again, which rallied public morale. The President began to push for rapid armament, and signed the Concordat in July 1940, aligning the United States with that of Hitler's Third Reich, Imperial Japan, Fascist Italy, Great Britain, France and the Soviet Union. The first American 'hovership' rolled off the line in 1942, named the H-42 'Cactus Jack'.
[3] After the death of Vice President McNary in 1944, FDR returned to a single party, the Democratic Party, and nominated Harry S. Truman to the office of Vice President instead-- the Missouri politician was naive in many ways, but was a contributive effort to FDR's White House. During this term, the United States unlocked the secrets of the atomic bomb, and used it numerous times against alien invaders in the Mexican plateaus and in Africa. In 1947, America's first orbital spaceship, the USS John Nance Garner, was rolled off the line, showing how quickly technological innovation was moving against the alien threat. In 1948, President Roosevelt declared a 'global crusade against the alien menace', and was joined with Adolf Hitler, whom angrily stated that 'the time was now to wipe the sub-species off the face of the Earth'. The 1948 election saw a divided Democratic field, with the Southerners and anti-Roosevelt candidates fighting for their own votes. FDR succeeded in winning, but used this to pivot into a new political party to unite the liberals of the Republicans and Democrats.
[4] FDR's 5th and 6th terms were spent focusing entirely on the war against the alien species. During the 1950s, America and her allies set the alien invaders back by several exponential ways; leading up to the establishment of the Galactic Senate, and the launch of several 'faster than light' ships, including the USS Valour, KMS Horst Wessel, HMS Balfour, and the Niigata. During this period, the United States and her allies pushed the aliens back on all fronts, taking hundreds of planets across the galaxy, with Mars serving as the 'toughest nut to crack'. As well, during this period, several million peoples of varying ethnicity were deported from nations across the globe to far-off planetary conquests--Mexicans, Indigenous peoples, Sorbs, Bosniaks, Slovenes, Slovaks, Ukrainians, et al.--the United States definitely participated in this, giving several white supremacists passage to a new planet of their own (Confederate States) or creating black republics in the stars. FDR did not run again in 1960, deciding that with the war going so well, he could afford to retire.
[5] Henry Cabot Lodge was a one-term President by choice, rather than by popular acclaim. He did not desire to run for President on his own volition except in 1960, where he went up against Lyndon B. Johnson and Stanley Parish, both conservative Dem-Reps whom were opposed to keeping the Concordat together. They were defeated, but the Democratic-Republicans would be back in 1964, they were certain. During this period, the Race was exterminated after the homeworld was razed to ash by the SS-Galaktischen Sturmtruppen (SS-GS) which killed millions of Race citizens in a reprisal for the slaughter of entire cities of German citizens by their invading armies. The remaining fleets of the Race, and colonies, were soon wiped out by the Luftwaffe's dozen plus 'Stardestroyer' ships.
During this period, the United States Constitution was ratified to block Presidents from serving more than two consecutive terms.
[6] Margaret Chase Smith was a well-liked woman. She was sharp as a tack, and took no nonsense. During her administration, the United States admitted millions upon millions of square miles of territory to the United States, after it became painfully obvious that none of the nations of the American hemisphere would be able to survive in the new, space-faring age. By the time of her assassination by Brazilian nationalists in 1967, the United States had expanded her Terran territory from the arctic poles of Canada, to the tip of Patagonia--and with it, the political scene was becoming incredibly chaotic. Luis H. Alvarez, a Mexican political leader, succeeded her after she was shot and killed by a Brazilian nationalist in 1967.
[7] Under President Alvarez, the Democratic-Republican Party changed it's name to 'Unionist' to invoke a more unified and less 'oxymoronic' name, as well as to extend inclusiveness to the many many conservatives south of the equator. 1968 was a chaotic election, with Alvarez challenged not only by the Wilson/Terry ticket for the Liberals, but also socialist revolutionaries Che Guevara and Fidel Castro; and militant anti-democratic figures such as Governor Peron and Senator Silva. Alvarez managed to emerge victorious, after presiding over the 'victory' of the war against the xenos. The war boom began to end, as Alvarez took his second term of office--it became obvious that he wouldn't win another.
During his presidency, the SCOTUS handed down the controversial Johnson v. Kwa'lun ruling which stated that the 13th Amendment did not apply to non-citizen extraterrestrial non-humanoids. This was controversial as it meant the legalization of alien slavery, which caused riots by African-Americans and others for weeks after the ruling. No amendment was ever proposed to 'amend' the 13th Amendment to fix this error.
[8] The Presidency of Ronald Reagan was an interesting one. After coming to power in the 1972 election, the United States moved to enact a more 'globalist' trend of elections, doing away with the electoral college by 1977; his presidency was focused on reform and modernization. As such, he attracted a number of splintering parties from both him and his Vice President's agenda. In 1976, he faced not only progressive opposition to Nixon, but also Chasite ideological schism from within the Unionists. His Presidency came to an end in 1979 after the Casseopeia Affair, the death of Vice President Nixon, and the subsequent 'vote of no confidence'.
[9] The ministry of Jacqueline Bouvier was a remarkable turn around from the 'interesting times' of the Reagan presidency. Jacqueline Bouvier expressed little interest in social and political reform, instead focusing on expanding the role of the welfare state in providing for the several hundred million Americans from pole to pole, and from star to star. Military and space funding were increased, and the government was very liberal in the amount of money it tossed into new age corporate consortiums intend on resource exploitation and xenoslavery in the far-off systems. She also provided significant military funding to the Free Systems in exchange for a number of trade concessions. Under her watchful eye, the Trans-Sol Warpway was constructed using light-travel nodes, and with the help of the Ford-Opel Company, managed to get 'spacecraft for the common man' as a goal for the late 20th century. Ford-Opel became the leader in American engineering where it came to civilian space-craft, only rivaled by the Honda Corporation after it's acquisition by American investors in 1983.
In 1984, President Bouvier signed into law the Haines-Wagner Act of 1984, which renewed the mandate for the National Recovery Administration another 25 years. The NRA had been a major piece of Franklin Roosevelt's administration, and by 1984, it was integrated into the American mindset as an absolute necessity for capitalism to prosper. Under the auspices of the NRA, competition and price of living had been maintained at a healthy level, with inflation and wages rising at an equal pace. There were now dozens of companies competing for market share in almost every factor, with foreign companies winning great amounts of market share as well. While domestic companies such as Ford-Opel, Chrysler, Dodge, Honda, Studebaker, Kaiser-Frasier Motors, Pontiac, Oldsmobile and Packard were doing well, selling millions in cars and lightcraft every year; foreign companies such as Nissan, Mercedes, Volkswagen, BMW, Ferrari, McLaren, Jaguar, Yugo and Lada were doing well too--the cars from fascist regimes often had a hefty import fee, but were popular enough to appear in many magazines through out the 1980s. Soviet made Ladas and Yugoslavian Yugos were popular for their 'cheap construction', and 'reliability', with many American engineers assisting their communist friends in building the vehicles.
In the way of telecommunications, Bouvier's SCOTUS utilized the NRA and the Haines-Wagner Act to finally divest the Bell monopoly. Bell had been an important asset to the war, picking up many companies such as Motorola, IBM and General Electric in the process, their overmassed power lead to a crusade on Bouvier's part against them. AT&T's breakup in 1984 was a major blow to Bell, which never recovered. The remembrance of AT&T's importance in jumpstarting the information age is often forgotten, as many of the companies that AT&T absorbed, got their patents back. Motorola was restored, and became America's #1 producer of shortwave, lightwave and transgalactic radios-- IBM became remembered for leading the way in server infrastructure, partnering with Japanese consortium NSX, American companies Advanced Micron Devices, Intelligent Architecture, Microware, and Phazer to bring a new age of personal computers to the home, something that had never been done before the 1980s.
Despite her soaring popularity in the late years of her term of office, she decided not to pursue a 2nd term of office in 1984, citing that she wished to go home and enjoy the remainder of her life without the stress of Washington politics.
[10] ...
This is great! My only quibble is that I don't think that
would have the "u".
Asami
Banned
Shhh, the Anglosphere is becoming one with itself. That and I'm one of those Americans that uses 'u' every now and again. *shrug*
sprite - Some wish fulfillment
sprite
Donor
Started as a bit of wish fulfilment, turned into a UK analogue, ended with some curveballs. Bit of a mess but whatchya think?
1949-1959: Robert Menzies
1959-1966: Arthur Calwell
1966-1970: Gough Whitlam
1970-1974: William McMahon
1974-1981: Nancy Wake
1981-1982: Don Chipp
1982-1990: Barry Jones
1990-1997: Robert Clyde Packer
1997-2001: James Wolfensohn
2001-2008: Kim Beazley Jr.
1949-1959: Robert Menzies
1959-1966: Arthur Calwell
1966-1970: Gough Whitlam
1970-1974: William McMahon
1974-1981: Nancy Wake
1981-1982: Don Chipp
1982-1990: Barry Jones
1990-1997: Robert Clyde Packer
1997-2001: James Wolfensohn
2001-2008: Kim Beazley Jr.
I mean, I am too, it just stuck out to me. That explanation makes sense, though.
Yes - The Cream Rises
The Cream Rises
Based loosely on the very good "best presidents we never had" list near the end of the Alternate Thread of Blessed Memory:
Pres. Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Vice Pres. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY) 1948-53
def. Sen. Robert Taft (R-OH)/Gov. Harold Stassen (R-MN), Sen. Strom Thurmond (DIX-SC)/Lt. Gov. Fielding Wright (DIX-MS)
Fmr. Gov. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Gov. Earl Warren (R-CA) 1953-61
1952 def. Pres. Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Vice Pres. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY)
1956 def. Gov. Averell Harriman (D-NY)/Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Gov. Adlai Stevenson II (D-IL)*/Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 1961-64
1960 def. Sen. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/Sen. Prescott Bush (R-CT)
Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Sen. Thomas Dodd (D-CT) 1964-69
1964 def. Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Sen. Norris Cotton (R-NH)
Gov. George Romney** (R-MI)/Sen. Paul Fannin (R-AZ) 1969-72
1968 def. Vice Pres. Thomas Dodd (D-CT)/Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)
Pres. Paul Fannin/VACANT 1972-73
Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)***/Sen. Edmund Muskie (D-ME) 1973-78
1972 def. Pres. Paul Fannin (R-NV)/Fmr. Gov. John Volpe (R-MA)
1976 def. Fmr. Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Sen. Raymond Shafer (R-PA)
Pres. Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Vice Pres. Reubin Askew (D-FL) 1978-85
1980 def. Gov. John Connally (R-TX)/Sen. Robert Finch (R-CA)
Gov. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) 1985-1993
1984 def. Sen. George McGovern (D-SD)/Gov. Tom Bradley (D-CA)
1988 def. Sen. Gary Hart (D-CO)/Gov. James "Jim" Blanchard (D-MI)
Gov. Bill Bradley (D-MO)/Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) 1993-2001
1992 def. Vice Pres. Thad Cochran (R-MS)/Gov. Carroll Campbell (R-SC)
1996 def. Gov. Pete Wilson (R-CA)/Gov. Bob Riley (R-AL)
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. George Voinovich (R-OH) 2001-2009
2000 def. Vice Pres. Bob Graham (D-FL)/Sen. Elizabeth Holtzman (D-NY)
2004 def. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)/Gov. Al Franken (D-MN)
Gov. Cecile Richards (D-TX)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 2009-2017
2008 def. Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Gov. Robert "Bob" Barr (R-GA)
2012 def. Gov. Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Sen. Robert "Rob" Portman (R-OH)
Gov. Corey Booker (D-NJ)/Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) 2017-
2016 def. Sen. Rafael "Ted" Cruz (R-FL)/Gov. Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
*= Died of a massive heart attack during a state visit to London
** = Assassinated by James Earl Ray for advances on civil rights
*** = Died of bladder cancer while in office
Two notes: yes it's that James Earl Ray who shot Romney. ITTL Dr. King dies around the same time as IOTL but like Walter Reuther (one of the few Sixties assassinations where there obviously was a conspiracy and nobody talks about it) in a highly suspicious (sabotage) plane crash that also claimed Jesse Jackson and Julian Bond. This is a good TL to live in but no TL is free of heartache.
And what about those darned Kennedys? Teddy didn't make it out of the '64 plane crash -- first family tragedy. After being "robbed" by Stevenson in '60 and taking second spot in '68 he was considered a front runner for next time round but his Addison's had grown markedly worse and he bowed out. Bobby did indeed pursue the New York Senate seat and bided his time building a name in the institution esp. as Jack's health grew worse, but then (Bobby) returned to Albany in '74 to a two-term governorship. There were voices that called on him to challenge President Muskie in the 1980 primaries, but Jack's worsening health and the rally-round-the-flag effect as Muskie deftly handled a Soviet incursion into northern Iran warned him off it. By '84 he figured it was past his time and helped his old Senate friend and liberal lion George McGovern ambush Vice President Askew in the primaries.
Based loosely on the very good "best presidents we never had" list near the end of the Alternate Thread of Blessed Memory:
Pres. Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Vice Pres. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY) 1948-53
def. Sen. Robert Taft (R-OH)/Gov. Harold Stassen (R-MN), Sen. Strom Thurmond (DIX-SC)/Lt. Gov. Fielding Wright (DIX-MS)
Fmr. Gov. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Gov. Earl Warren (R-CA) 1953-61
1952 def. Pres. Harry S. Truman (D-MO)/Vice Pres. Alben W. Barkley (D-KY)
1956 def. Gov. Averell Harriman (D-NY)/Sen. Estes Kefauver (D-TN)
Gov. Adlai Stevenson II (D-IL)*/Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 1961-64
1960 def. Sen. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/Sen. Prescott Bush (R-CT)
Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Sen. Thomas Dodd (D-CT) 1964-69
1964 def. Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Sen. Norris Cotton (R-NH)
Gov. George Romney** (R-MI)/Sen. Paul Fannin (R-AZ) 1969-72
1968 def. Vice Pres. Thomas Dodd (D-CT)/Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)
Pres. Paul Fannin/VACANT 1972-73
Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)***/Sen. Edmund Muskie (D-ME) 1973-78
1972 def. Pres. Paul Fannin (R-NV)/Fmr. Gov. John Volpe (R-MA)
1976 def. Fmr. Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Sen. Raymond Shafer (R-PA)
Pres. Edmund Muskie (D-ME)/Vice Pres. Reubin Askew (D-FL) 1978-85
1980 def. Gov. John Connally (R-TX)/Sen. Robert Finch (R-CA)
Gov. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Sen. Thad Cochran (R-MS) 1985-1993
1984 def. Sen. George McGovern (D-SD)/Gov. Tom Bradley (D-CA)
1988 def. Sen. Gary Hart (D-CO)/Gov. James "Jim" Blanchard (D-MI)
Gov. Bill Bradley (D-MO)/Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) 1993-2001
1992 def. Vice Pres. Thad Cochran (R-MS)/Gov. Carroll Campbell (R-SC)
1996 def. Gov. Pete Wilson (R-CA)/Gov. Bob Riley (R-AL)
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)/Gov. George Voinovich (R-OH) 2001-2009
2000 def. Vice Pres. Bob Graham (D-FL)/Sen. Elizabeth Holtzman (D-NY)
2004 def. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA)/Gov. Al Franken (D-MN)
Gov. Cecile Richards (D-TX)/Sen. Al Gore (D-TN) 2009-2017
2008 def. Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Gov. Robert "Bob" Barr (R-GA)
2012 def. Gov. Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Sen. Robert "Rob" Portman (R-OH)
Gov. Corey Booker (D-NJ)/Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) 2017-
2016 def. Sen. Rafael "Ted" Cruz (R-FL)/Gov. Jim Inhofe (R-OK)
*= Died of a massive heart attack during a state visit to London
** = Assassinated by James Earl Ray for advances on civil rights
*** = Died of bladder cancer while in office
Two notes: yes it's that James Earl Ray who shot Romney. ITTL Dr. King dies around the same time as IOTL but like Walter Reuther (one of the few Sixties assassinations where there obviously was a conspiracy and nobody talks about it) in a highly suspicious (sabotage) plane crash that also claimed Jesse Jackson and Julian Bond. This is a good TL to live in but no TL is free of heartache.
And what about those darned Kennedys? Teddy didn't make it out of the '64 plane crash -- first family tragedy. After being "robbed" by Stevenson in '60 and taking second spot in '68 he was considered a front runner for next time round but his Addison's had grown markedly worse and he bowed out. Bobby did indeed pursue the New York Senate seat and bided his time building a name in the institution esp. as Jack's health grew worse, but then (Bobby) returned to Albany in '74 to a two-term governorship. There were voices that called on him to challenge President Muskie in the 1980 primaries, but Jack's worsening health and the rally-round-the-flag effect as Muskie deftly handled a Soviet incursion into northern Iran warned him off it. By '84 he figured it was past his time and helped his old Senate friend and liberal lion George McGovern ambush Vice President Askew in the primaries.
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Now, now -- I like the joke too, BTW -- remember it's a different TL so who knows how he's grown up here (maybe less cocky and less tied to Wall St. for starters), and by now the eternal Paul V McNutt option (one more day, one more day...) has been put on the Supreme Court by President Richards. It's an homage not an absolute. Otherwise, God love him, Ed Muskie probably wouldn't be on that list either. And Romney's temporary right-wing successor would be Barry Goldwater or a Buckley brother, not Paul Fannin. There are these mussed little bits of realism around the edges in an effort to lend plausibility to such a list. Otherwise my impulse for "first African American president" would either have been Tom Bradley (two-term CA governor ITTL) eking out '88 or Harvey Gantt taking McCain's time slot and making this even more of a liberal-to-Demwank. Pushing against enough societal forces to avoid Nixon and Reagan was hard enough.
Oh! And that crisis over Iran... all y'all should get over to Archive.org and watch all four segments of The Crisis Game. Part of the reason I stuck with Muskie running with Humphrey. Nightline staged it as a week-long simulation at almost the same time ABC ran The Day After and it has a great cast of simulated notables. Muskie as President, Clark Clifford as SecState, James Schlesinger as SecDef, and Shy Meyer (newly retired as Chief of Staff of the Army) as CJCS, and that's just the top of the heap. Fun, fun stuff.
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They have some excellent second-generation medications for that now
I on the other hand will sit over here in this corner and w00t quietly ...And, hey, just the other day I did give Bill O'Reilly four disastrous years in the White House so there's that for realism....
Japhy
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The battle over divergence is never over in the list thread. Basically none of those people on the second half should exist because of the changes in the first is what he's saying.
Of course if you just used a bunch of random names the list would be meaningless.
NapoleonCorinII
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Yep, that was basically what I was trying to do, Perhaps I should redo the whole list so anyone born after 1920 doesn't exist?
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