Last possible dynastic war

Yun-shuno

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So in any state after 1900 the Hashemites, Britain, Spain, Russia, Germany, and what not that had monarchies what was most likely to have a civil conflict over succession?

Is it possible in the 20th century for a monarchic state to have a civil war over which son rules or is it to late in the game for that?

Which country's would be most likely to have such a crisis? What would the results be?
 

ben0628

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Abul Hamid II. Sultan of the Ottoman Empire until the Young Turk Revolution in 1908. However in 1909, there was an attempted counter coup by the more conservative elements of the Turkish military. The Young Turks were able to regain control of the situation relatively quickly however.

Just make the counter coup forces stronger and I could see a full civil war breaking out.
 
It's hard to imagine such a late war between two members of the same dynasty. The Ottomans are one distant possibility. Spain had a dynastic conflict as late as 1876, but I'm not sure if there could plausibly be a Fourth Carlist War. Maybe Imperial China?

Now, a civil war between two different dynasties is a bit more likely, and could have happened in several countries. Serbia could have had one in the early 1900s, although it would have ended very quickly. A CP victory could cause a few of these in the 1920s or 1930s, in Romania, Serbia and/or Montenegro. Of course, all these cases would have been political civil wars - not wars of sucession in the strictest sense.
 
It's hard to imagine such a late war between two members of the same dynasty. The Ottomans are one distant possibility. Spain had a dynastic conflict as late as 1876, but I'm not sure if there could plausibly be a Fourth Carlist War. Maybe Imperial China?
IMO the position of emperor was no longer as powerful nor desirable as it used to be before Cixi screwed around. Puyi was not particularly high in the succession order, yet there's no significant challenge against him AFAIK. A lot of his uncles were still around, and even his own father was still in his 20s, so there was no shortage of claimants.
 
IMO the position of emperor was no longer as powerful nor desirable as it used to be before Cixi screwed around. Puyi was not particularly high in the succession order, yet there's no significant challenge against him AFAIK. A lot of his uncles were still around, and even his own father was still in his 20s, so there was no shortage of claimants.

If you take Cixi out of the equation, this might fit.

Personally, I think you could get a succession war in modern times, too. Two words: Saudi dynasty. Tons of kids and siblings and uncles and whatnots.
 
If you take Cixi out of the equation, this might fit.

Personally, I think you could get a succession war in modern times, too. Two words: Saudi dynasty. Tons of kids and siblings and uncles and whatnots.
this was a really good TL based on that:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lines-in-the-sand-a-history-of-the-gulf-war.279199/

How about an India that breaks up into the Princely states somehow?
Maybe Nepal until quite recently?
Or some strange situation in Thailand where multiple royals die off, and two claimants become figureheads for the two major political factions?
 
So in any state after 1900 the Hashemites, Britain, Spain, Russia, Germany, and what not that had monarchies what was most likely to have a civil conflict over succession?

Is it possible in the 20th century for a monarchic state to have a civil war over which son rules or is it to late in the game for that?

Which country's would be most likely to have such a crisis? What would the results be?

Persia. Reza Pahlavi Khan´s takeover of the throne from the Quajar dynasty. Maybe instead legitimizing himself through the constitution he instead faces opposition from Quaja loyalists who maybe are backed by foreign interest. Maybe he is branded as a foreign ursurpator due to his Georgian ancestry on his mothers side. So there is a Civil War between Ahmad Shah loyalists and Reza Khan´s supporters for the throne.
 
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