WI Clement VII annulled Henry's VIII wedding?

Don_Giorgio

In 1525 King Henry VIII petitioned the Pope to annul his marriage with Catherine of Aragon on the ground that his marriage was illegal on the first place (since Catherine was married to his brother Arthur at first)...
Clement VII refused the annulment because he didnot wanted to displease Charles V (Catherine was his aunt...)
Henry VIII broke away from Rome then and was excommunicated by the Pope...
WI Clement VII agreed to the annulment? Could England remained Catholic after 1533???
 

Don_Giorgio

Besides the King of France would have seen it as an oppurtunity to seize the Papacy as Philippe IV did in 14th century...
 

Faeelin

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Hrmm. Could this lead to something like the Wars of Religion in England? A Catholic monarchy with a large Protestant population?

Okay, so this isn't very much like the Wars of Religion, since the Huenots were a fairly small minority, but still.
 

Don_Giorgio

Yeap... But u have England in coalition with France against HRE and Spain... 4 Major Catholic powers fighting each other...
This conflict might have influenced Church history too... (deadlocked Conclaves with French/English Cardinals fighting HRE/Spanish Cardinals and the Italians acting as Kingmakers... that would be soooo funny!!!:D:eek::D:eek:)
 

Sgt Detritus

Faeelin said:
Hrmm. Could this lead to something like the Wars of Religion in England? A Catholic monarchy with a large Protestant population?

Okay, so this isn't very much like the Wars of Religion, since the Huenots were a fairly small minority, but still.
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Would there be a figurehead of the Prostestant faction
 

Sgt Detritus

Don_Giorgio said:
Yeap... But u have England in coalition with France against HRE and Spain... 4 Major Catholic powers fighting each other...
This conflict might have influenced Church history too... (deadlocked Conclaves with French/English Cardinals fighting HRE/Spanish Cardinals and the Italians acting as Kingmakers... that would be soooo funny!!!:D:eek::D:eek:)
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A bit like the Papal Conclave of 1449-1450 IOTL?
 

Don_Giorgio

Sgt Detritus said:
A bit like the Papal Conclave of 1449-1450 IOTL?
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Something similar... but i see the Cardinals electing someone really neutral... perhaps an Italian or someone who is not connected to the 4 Catholic powers... who would be the candidate? Someone who is not English/French/Spanish/HRE... tough question... I am expecting a long long Conclave... maybe longer than the interregnum between the death of Clement IV and the election of Gregory X...
 

Don_Giorgio

Couldnt just Charles V agree to the annulment and just remarry Katherine to another Noble/King and forge a new alliance? (maybe against Henry VIII...)
Any possible candidates for the Papal throne ammidst the religious turmoil in Europe?
 

Don_Giorgio

Well Henry couldnt wait... He had to legitimize his child from Anne Boleyn... He needed the Papal dispensation to dissolve his marriage and marry her ASAP...
But the real problem starts when Clement VII dies (assassination perhaps?) and the Cardinals have to choose a new Pope... England remains Catholic and has a strong voice in the College of Cardinals... Maybe Henry VIII can buy the election of an English Cardinal... Wolsey perhaps?
 
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